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Darkish Flag Croydon 23 Dec 16 9.28am Send a Private Message to Darkish Add Darkish as a friend

I still had faith and would like him to stay. He would have turned thinks around, building a good team and would have improved it further with time. Was moving towards a good style of football.

Now worry what we will get. Sure we will stay up with but this then maybe used as an argument for defensive dull football in the future.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 23 Dec 16 9.29am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Week after cup final onwards. A pause during the 3 game winning run vs sh1t teams. Apart from that it's been nowhere near good enough for 12 months.

 


COYP

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essetwentyone Flag london 23 Dec 16 9.36am Send a Private Message to essetwentyone Add essetwentyone as a friend

December 14th 2016 at approx 9.45.

All my doubts were cemented when the 4th official raised his board for subs.

 

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dannyb1 Flag Chichester 23 Dec 16 9.39am Send a Private Message to dannyb1 Add dannyb1 as a friend

Time he should have been sacked - Swansea

Reasons he should have been sacked - Selling Murray, Gayle, Jedinak and Bolasie.
Yes I know we were looking to transition into a more attacking type of fancy team but if the sub vs man u was Jedi instead of Cambell to just retain some order in def/mid we could have walked away with a point.

We were trying at times to play a 442 with 2 big guys upfront of similar attributes who couldn't really work off each other this is where we needed a fox in the box type of striker that we had in Gayle.

Bolasie sale I guess was to fund Benteke but I believe he wanted out from Pardew anyway.

All the above even if not in the first 11 could have attributed something from the bench.

The dance at Wembley, leaving Punch out, shipping 5 goals after being told defence had been training all week, letting 3 teams s***ter then us play like Barcelona and get results, being unable to defend his defenders inability's, the non blame culture of his tactics after defeats but full of self praise when results go our way, the CYL incident (if true)
6 WINS ALL YEAR
But I think (if true) the one that kicks in the teeth the most is being told it's time to step down and not taking it upon himself, yes I guess we were unlucky against mancs and chelsea but these are the teams we should be looking to take points from they are the ones that prove you can cut it.

 

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Mad4palace Flag 23 Dec 16 9.55am Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

After the transfer window closed. I found the promise of "transition" to be hollow, the players he'd brought in were never going to change our style in the way he thought (no midfielders!). Selling Jedinak was a mess, as was giving Dann the captaincy IMO.

After the cup final I actually still wanted him. You could see he had a good thing going for the first half of 15/16, I wanted to see him build the squad but he didn't correct its imbalances in the transfer window and created new ones in the process; DM with Jedinak and LM with Townsend not wanting/capable of playing there.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Dec 16 10.00am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I didn't think he should have been sacked at anytime. Selling various players wasn't always his choice. If they want to go, then go they will.

We have obviously had a terrible run of results but there are many reasons for it. Pardew tried to alter the system because he felt it had become too predictable and teams were picking us off. Losing Bolasie made that even more necessary. We have suffered particularly damaging injuries to key players, as well as a loss of form from others. Neither was Pardew's fault. He had obviously decided that, in the short term at least, he needed to revert to a more rugged, less expansive, style, and it seemed to be paying dividends with a result against Southampton, and decent performances against Man U and Chelsea.

We obviously needed a shake up defensively, either with new coaching or personnel, but changing the guy at the top seems a big step to me, and probably a step backwards.

I worry that this step has been forced by the Americans and was not wanted by Parish who wanted, as I did, to close ranks and fight our way through. Allardyce is reported to have made an effective job application, backed up with a statistical dossier of where we were going wrong, a month or so ago and sent this to our "investors". If true, and it is them who has forced the issue, then does this mean that the way the club is run has changed for ever? We all thought that Steve Parish was the one who made the decisions but maybe that isn't true anymore.

 


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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 23 Dec 16 10.05am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I didn't think he should have been sacked at anytime. Selling various players wasn't always his choice. If they want to go, then go they will.

We have obviously had a terrible run of results but there are many reasons for it. Pardew tried to alter the system because he felt it had become too predictable and teams were picking us off. Losing Bolasie made that even more necessary. We have suffered particularly damaging injuries to key players, as well as a loss of form from others. Neither was Pardew's fault. He had obviously decided that, in the short term at least, he needed to revert to a more rugged, less expansive, style, and it seemed to be paying dividends with a result against Southampton, and decent performances against Man U and Chelsea.

We obviously needed a shake up defensively, either with new coaching or personnel, but changing the guy at the top seems a big step to me, and probably a step backwards.

I worry that this step has been forced by the Americans and was not wanted by Parish who wanted, as I did, to close ranks and fight our way through. Allardyce is reported to have made an effective job application, backed up with a statistical dossier of where we were going wrong, a month or so ago and sent this to our "investors". If true, and it is them who has forced the issue, then does this mean that the way the club is run has changed for ever? We all thought that Steve Parish was the one who made the decisions but maybe that isn't true anymore.


I think you have an overly-rosy view of Pardew and rampant paranoia with respect to the US investors

Parish is his own man and won't do anything he doesn't think is best for the club. He's definitely no one's puppet.

 


Bexley Dave

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Painter Flag Croydon 23 Dec 16 10.08am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

When he insulted the Yanks, his days were numbered. He had lost the plot with bizarre substitutions.

 

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dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 23 Dec 16 10.09am Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


I think you have an overly-rosy view of Pardew and rampant paranoia with respect to the US investors

Parish is his own man and won't do anything he doesn't think is best for the club. He's definitely no one's puppet.

totally agree

 


Bring back Brolin

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eagle184 Flag Sutton 23 Dec 16 10.16am Send a Private Message to eagle184 Add eagle184 as a friend

Originally posted by Paul67

When Campbell replaced Mcarther at 1-1 v Man Utd. Frazer Campbell can score a late equalizer against one of his old clubs, lets try it again this time he'll get the winner. He'd run out of ideas.

THIS!!

 

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aashman12 Flag 23 Dec 16 10.18am Send a Private Message to aashman12 Add aashman12 as a friend

Originally posted by premier fan

for AP to go?

Me : post Swansea Away

Edited by premier fan (23 Dec 2016 8.12am)

Fa cup final without a doubt.

 

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Andy_G Flag Wimbledon 23 Dec 16 10.20am Send a Private Message to Andy_G Add Andy_G as a friend

Burnley. Then I realised that he wasn't up to the job and no amount of time would change that.

Loads of mistakes but for me his biggest was getting rid of the leaders in the group without replacing them.

 


The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years

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