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 Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 20 Dec 16 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by lancseagle
Don't agree. It's showing the timeline & how things have deterioated. You judge things by looking at the whole picture not just bits some which may be good or not. Some people like to weight things up by considering all factors overall. Edited by lancseagle (20 Dec 2016 6.04pm) Ok we have improved the first half of this season since the second half of last. 11 points last 19 games, 15 first 17. Clearly things are on the up? Do you think Leicester fans think everything is fine because of the amo8nt of points they got last season? As I said, I want AP gone but the OP stats prove nothing
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lancseagle  burnley 20 Dec 16 6.20pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Ok we have improved the first half of this season since the second half of last. 11 points last 19 games, 15 first 17. Clearly things are on the up? Do you think Leicester fans think everything is fine because of the amo8nt of points they got last season? As I said, I want AP gone but the OP stats prove nothing
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| Canterbury Palace Whitstable 20 Dec 16 6.54pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Ok we have improved the first half of this season since the second half of last. 11 points last 19 games, 15 first 17. Clearly things are on the up? Do you think Leicester fans think everything is fine because of the amo8nt of points they got last season? As I said, I want AP gone but the OP stats prove nothing
If it were just a couple of months you could argue that he's been unlucky with injuries, the players are adjusting to a new style or any other number of reasons. Doing badly for this long indicates that something is fundamentally wrong with his management of the club.
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold... |
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| Inapickle South West 20 Dec 16 7.11pm |
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Originally posted by pssguy
for teams in Premier league both seasons
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ThatPetrolRelation  Ottawa 20 Dec 16 9.00pm |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
If it were just a couple of months you could argue that he's been unlucky with injuries, the players are adjusting to a new style or any other number of reasons. Doing badly for this long indicates that something is fundamentally wrong with his management of the club. Well last season we couldn't score with Ade leading the line, with Gayle I guess --but our Defence was very solid. This season, we score for fun, 5th in the league or some such. But our defence has sucked eggs. So yes, we have had bad runs, but I see them very differently. We all knew we needed a striker badly last January, we got Ade. It makes sense we focused on scoring. They got Big Ben, and townsend (who probably scored more than Bolasie), and Remy. Yes, many people felt we were light on FBs, but Pape was solid. No way Parish could know that Pape would crash and be done for the season. Even then we would have been ok if tomkins had stayed fit. Dann has lost confidence and Damo was supposed to be cover at 35. And our stikrer plan assumed Remy would play some games, and Wickham would continue to be a force when we needed to play 2 up front. So the plan is off the rails. Good news is there is a chance to fill some holes and improve the squad soon. But THIS season's issue with bad form are very different. End of last season we had no one scoring goals but Dann. This season we have no one preventing goals, which I think is a cheaper fix.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 20 Dec 16 9.08pm |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
If it were just a couple of months you could argue that he's been unlucky with injuries, the players are adjusting to a new style or any other number of reasons. Doing badly for this long indicates that something is fundamentally wrong with his management of the club. I don't disagree that there are problems. I think it's time for AP to go But the stats would indicate we are performing better in the 1st half of this season compared to the second half of last. That is a fact. It's still not good enough and that's why AP should go, not because of points we did or didn't get last season. As for the poster that says CR has credit in the bank. Yes he does but there's a loud (probably) minority of Leicester fans who are very unhappy.
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| lancseagle burnley 20 Dec 16 9.17pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I don't disagree that there are problems. I think it's time for AP to go But the stats would indicate we are performing better in the 1st half of this season compared to the second half of last. That is a fact. It's still not good enough and that's why AP should go, not because of points we did or didn't get last season. As for the poster that says CR has credit in the bank. Yes he does but there's a loud (probably) minority of Leicester fans who are very unhappy. The Leicester fans (minority) who are unhappy are deluded & fail to see the last seasons achievements unlikely to replicated anytime soon won't be enough to upset the applecart. I fail to see how Leicester have got dragged into this! The stats even out & it bares no relevance to state we are marginally doing better this half & than last half if you factor in the additions it's a even bleaker picture on reflection.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Dec 16 9.22pm |
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Petrol, No way Parish or Pardew could know Pape would do himself in a car crash but he could be out for 6-9 months with a football injury that's more likely than a car crash. CPFC prepared for no loss of Souare or any more than 2 defenders out. That is unacceptable and very risky going into a season with 6 defenders, only 1 left footer who can play left back plus Fryers for 10 mins every few weeks. It is no surprise really is it? But some weren't worried because Benteke was here to save the day and everything would be fine. Woohoo.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 20 Dec 16 9.26pm |
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Originally posted by lancseagle
The Leicester fans (minority) who are unhappy are deluded & fail to see the last seasons achievements unlikely to replicated anytime soon won't be enough to upset the applecart. I fail to see how Leicester have got dragged into this! The stats even out & it bares no relevance to state we are marginally doing better this half & than last half if you factor in the additions it's a even bleaker picture on reflection. I mentioned Leicester originally to illustrate the futility of I sung last season's points. They don't count, they've been used Leicester are now struggling, all those points they gained pfft gone. You responded about RC credit in the bank. Not with everyone
You want to factor in our additions? Fair enough, what about everyone else's additions too? Anyway we both want the same thing, we just disagree about the point of reference
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| lancseagle burnley 20 Dec 16 9.28pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I mentioned Leicester originally to illustrate the futility of I sung last season's points. They don't count, they've been used Leicester are now struggling, all those points they gained pfft gone. You responded about RC credit in the bank. Not with everyone
You want to factor in our additions? Fair enough, what about everyone else's additions too? Anyway we both want the same thing, we just disagree about the point of reference Ok fair point.
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| Canterbury Palace Whitstable 20 Dec 16 9.38pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I don't disagree that there are problems. I think it's time for AP to go But the stats would indicate we are performing better in the 1st half of this season compared to the second half of last. That is a fact. It's still not good enough and that's why AP should go, not because of points we did or didn't get last season. As for the poster that says CR has credit in the bank. Yes he does but there's a loud (probably) minority of Leicester fans who are very unhappy.
Based purely on this season, 0.88 points a game will give us about 34 points over the season, which will virtually always end in relegation.
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| ThatPetrolRelation Ottawa 20 Dec 16 9.46pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Petrol, No way Parish or Pardew could know Pape would do himself in a car crash but he could be out for 6-9 months with a football injury that's more likely than a car crash. CPFC prepared for no loss of Souare or any more than 2 defenders out. That is unacceptable and very risky going into a season with 6 defenders, only 1 left footer who can play left back plus Fryers for 10 mins every few weeks. It is no surprise really is it? But some weren't worried because Benteke was here to save the day and everything would be fine. Woohoo. Well I agree Rudi, they should have got a LB in (I think most people wanted them to). I'm guessing they tried (and failed), but who knows with rumours. But if you asked me in the summer what we needed most, it would have been a top-class striker (I love Wickham, but that's not him). I never thought we'd get Benteke, so I was, and am, thrilled. Now when we lost Bolasie, I would have said a winger is priority #2. They got Townsend, and I was happy, because I didn't know he would be the invisible man. As for Defence, I was happy with Tomkins, because my Hammer friends was really sad to see him go. I thought he'd be a good pairing with Dann, and could cover for Ward if he went down. I think we actually looked strong defensively against Southampton with Ward on the left Dann, Damo and Tomkins on the right. Best we had looked in 10 games or so. Kelly looked ok on the right, so maybe we can make do with Ward on the left. Jury is still out on Mandanda, but he looked to be having some trouble adjusting to set pieces in the Prem. But Hennessey is a good backup. Overall I was pretty happy with our business. I didn't expect them to solve all our issues in one summer. We're not a big enough club to have real quality sitting on the bench as backups, so I think there is a lot of balancing to do that the top clubs don't have to worry about. But I rate the job Parish has done, (focusing on getting the best bench players from other top flight teams rather than rolling the dice on Championship players), and I hope we'll strengthen the squad in January
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