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mattteo Flag 18 Dec 16 6.38pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Reknaw

Completely agree RE Ward and Kelly. Truly dreadful fullbacks. However, Townsend requests to play on the right, it's his preferred position.

A manager should know better. It's not a player's job to decide where he would play better.

Townsend would be a terrific left wing if used correctly

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards berlinpalace Flag berlin 18 Dec 16 6.50pm Send a Private Message to berlinpalace Add berlinpalace as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

A manager should know better. It's not a player's job to decide where he would play better.

Townsend would be a terrific left wing if he could be bothered.
EFA

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 18 Dec 16 6.54pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

A manager should know better. It's not a player's job to decide where he would play better.

Townsend would be a terrific left wing if used correctly

Have you watched how ineffective he is on the left? He wants to play on the right, but we have Wilf playing there, who is arguably better at it. Remind me, where did he play for England?

 


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Icepick Tony Flag Chester 18 Dec 16 7.04pm Send a Private Message to Icepick Tony Add Icepick Tony as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

...he's no manager.

Last time I commented on this site was 6-8 months ago when I begged you guys to support Gayle and push the coach into using him. I don't know how happy you guys are about Benteke, some feel he has started well, but Gayle is a huge loss.
Well, the better for him. He's doing really well in the Championship, he's a beast, both scoring and pressing the defenders, while Palace is doing awful under Pardew.

Now please, listen to me. This guy (Pardew) is impressive at being bad. You can't win many games with Kelly and Ward as full backs. Not even Souare is match winning material, but at least he was a left footed left back. Why in God's name doesn't the team have a left footed backup for the left back position? What was the manager thinking?
And don't tell me defenders only have to defend. I'd rather have them make 10 mistakes but contribute to 15 goals in a season, than make no mistakes and contribute with nothing. 6 wins and 4 loses bring you a lot more points than 10 draws.

And keeping Townsend soo long on the bench in the Chelsea game when Puncheon was soo out of it... The man wasn't even trying to run on the pitch, he had even sustained an injury!! Townsend needs to play as LEFT WING every match. He can cross amazingly fast for the striker. Yet, Pardew kept sending him in as right wing (even in the Chelsea game). Townsend doesn't have the technical ability to play on the opposite side of his favourite foot. All he knows from that position is to cut in and shoot. And Zaha is like that too. Playing Zaha and Townsend as inverted wingers destroys the team. They're not Robben, Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar or Mahrez to be able to do that. They're fast and athletic. Use them to run past defenders and cross!!

I've read some saying that the team played well against Chelsea and that Pardew should stay. Honestly, from an impartial point of view, Palace was awful. It was one of the worst displays of a home side I've seen. You are so scared of Chelsea, but outside of having a good run, that team hasn't got much. They might not finish in the top 4. They only have 3 attacking players (Hazard, Costa and Willian/Pedro), the rest are all defenders.
Crystal Palace is not headed in a good direction and, while I can't say that there is one really good manager in the Premier League, Alan Pardew surely is a lousy one


Edited by mattteo (18 Dec 2016 2.48pm)

Why don't you apply? You certainly seem to know what you're talking about....

 


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Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 18 Dec 16 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

In my opinion Kelly was one of our better players yesterday. He was solid in defence and put in 2 or 3 excellent crosses. Ward also looked OK down the left. I have never thought Fryers is perm class but not seen enough of him to judge. Hennessy was at fault for the goal. His position was wrong and should have come for it.

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 18 Dec 16 7.16pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

In my opinion Kelly was one of our better players yesterday. He was solid in defence and put in 2 or 3 excellent crosses. Ward also looked OK down the left. I have never thought Fryers is perm class but not seen enough of him to judge. Hennessy was at fault for the goal. His position was wrong and should have come for it.

Why? Do you think he has curly hair or summat?

 


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Inapickle Flag South West 18 Dec 16 7.24pm

Originally posted by mattteo


But Fryers doesn't play. He only has 100 minutes all season, it's like he's not even considered by Pardew.

Townsend was rubbish cause he's used in the wrong position. Still, he was better than Puncheon. And Zaha was really rubbish against Chelsea too. If I think about it, the entire team was rubbish, I can't name one good player.

Delaney was close to calling an ambulance on grounds that he was old and sick in the 70th minute


 

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Inapickle Flag South West 18 Dec 16 7.25pm

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Why? Do you think he has curly hair or summat?

 

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Lakeview Flag Lincoln 18 Dec 16 7.30pm Send a Private Message to Lakeview Add Lakeview as a friend

Anyone who thinks Chelsea are less than an impressive side probably doesn't know too much about football. I went to see Chelsea v Man City a few weeks back as a guest. Chelsea, including Victor Moses, gave a thoroughly impressive performance in every aspect of their play. You may have a point about our full back weakness, but the strange line about why Chelsea gave us nothing to fear (despite their 11th straight victory) tells us something about you and either your views on football or your motives for visiting this site.Still, a wide range of views is part of what makes this site worth visiting.

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 18 Dec 16 9.03pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Kelly and Ward are currently the best two full backs at the club .The problem is they are both right full backs and though neither are any good on the left Ward is less useless than Kelly .

Kelly is obviously lacking confidence ,he is a decent right back who has had his confidence shot after poor games on the left .His early crossing is poor ,he needs to take the ball to the line when he has the chance which he did have on at least two occasions yesterday .

Pardew doesn't fancy Fryers so makes do with what he has got ,a decent left back is a must in the transfer window .

 

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mattteo Flag 19 Dec 16 7.20am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Have you watched how ineffective he is on the left? He wants to play on the right, but we have Wilf playing there, who is arguably better at it. Remind me, where did he play for England?


I've watched him a lot since his QPR days. Then at Tottenham, then at Newcastle. he is very effective in the left wing. Effective doesn't only mean scoring. He provides numerous cross, assists, he runs a lot and does defence too.
The England position is not representative, he's only played a few matches for the national team.

 

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mattteo Flag 19 Dec 16 7.25am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Lakeview

Anyone who thinks Chelsea are less than an impressive side probably doesn't know too much about football.

It's not just about Chelsea. Crystal Palace doesn't beat anyone these days. Didn't even beat Hull, who is the last in the league and has the weakest morale.

What did that statistic say about 2016? Crystal has been one of the worst teams from the first 4 leagues, making the least points.
It's an ongoing situation and I attribute it to the policies of the manager, who chose the wrong players in the wrong position and let go of some very good players.

 

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