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NickinOX Sailing country. 15 Dec 16 12.48am
Originally posted by gambler Correct. And the difference? Like him or not Pulis knows his arse from his elbow. And the value of a hairdressing appointment. About 5m I reckon. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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NickinOX

Sailing country. 15 Dec 16 12.48am

Originally posted by gambler

Correct.

And the difference? Like him or not Pulis knows his arse from his elbow.

And the value of a hairdressing appointment. About 5m I reckon.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 15 Dec 16 9.21am
Originally posted by merganser There was no lack of fight tonight. I thought it was a gritty, battling performance. The problem is that we can't afford to buy in the top talent in the same way as clubs such as Man U. The gulf is wider than ever. Edited by merganser (15 Dec 2016 12.00am) Good point since Ferguson left, United have had 3 Managers and spent £480 Million on Players. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 15 Dec 16 9.21am

Originally posted by merganser

There was no lack of fight tonight.

I thought it was a gritty, battling performance.

The problem is that we can't afford to buy in the top talent in the same way as clubs such as Man U.

The gulf is wider than ever.

Edited by merganser (15 Dec 2016 12.00am)

Good point since Ferguson left, United have had 3 Managers and spent £480 Million on Players.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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KAOS In a tree 15 Dec 16 9.42am
Originally posted by merganser There was no lack of fight tonight. I thought it was a gritty, battling performance. The problem is that we can't afford to buy in the top talent in the same way as clubs such as Man U. The gulf is wider than ever. Edited by merganser (15 Dec 2016 12.00am) What a team lacks in quality can be made up with sheer belief, professionalism & organisation. We have none of these things and game by game what little we do have diminishes further! We should be able to hold on for a draw, we should be able to grind out a result from time to time, we should be able to frustrate teams defensively with an organised defence and midfield. The gulf is no bigger than it’s ever been and look at what Leicester did last season deploying the 3 aforementioned skills. Also, look at where Watford are currently? Look at how Bournemouth conduct themselves? Etc … Utter b*llox being served by way of excuses by Pardew and some fans on this site! The anti Pardew brigade don’t expect Europe they just expect the 3 things I’ve mentioned as they can get you through games. Pardews new tactic of trying to outscore the opposition – whoever it is – is niave, shortsighted and ignorant/arrogant! The man is a fool …
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KAOS

In a tree 15 Dec 16 9.42am

Originally posted by merganser

There was no lack of fight tonight.

I thought it was a gritty, battling performance.

The problem is that we can't afford to buy in the top talent in the same way as clubs such as Man U.

The gulf is wider than ever.

Edited by merganser (15 Dec 2016 12.00am)

What a team lacks in quality can be made up with sheer belief, professionalism & organisation. We have none of these things and game by game what little we do have diminishes further!

We should be able to hold on for a draw, we should be able to grind out a result from time to time, we should be able to frustrate teams defensively with an organised defence and midfield.

The gulf is no bigger than it’s ever been and look at what Leicester did last season deploying the 3 aforementioned skills.

Also, look at where Watford are currently? Look at how Bournemouth conduct themselves? Etc …

Utter b*llox being served by way of excuses by Pardew and some fans on this site! The anti Pardew brigade don’t expect Europe they just expect the 3 things I’ve mentioned as they can get you through games. Pardews new tactic of trying to outscore the opposition – whoever it is – is niave, shortsighted and ignorant/arrogant! The man is a fool …

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Dangermouse Hastings 15 Dec 16 9.47am
Originally posted by glaziermart I'm sorry but i don't buy all this 'we woz robbed''the luck is not with us' we woz gutsy etc. I think our fight has gone. We were so passive first half and just invited United on to us. We made a bit of a fist of it early in the second half, but we looked so vulnerable to crosses. Players not picking up runners, being out jumped. There is a deeper malaise here. Poor tactics, poor coaching and we are also paying for a poor pre-season which has resulted in us looking unfit. We were such a fit team when Pardew took over and we had quality as well. Anyone remember how brilliant we were at Anfield for the Stevie G farewell. We have even more quality now, but look worse as a team!!!! Who else is to blame apart from Pardew?? It is like the life is slowly being drained from us. We need to act now before it is too late This team never gives up. It may have it's limitations, but lacking fight is totally insulting to them. Last night Wilf and Macca sacrificed their games for large spells playing out of their regular positions for the sake of the team. The approach was the right one IMO, but late on we lost concentration again. Sick of this happening every week now. Time for a change. Edited by Dangermouse (15 Dec 2016 9.50am) That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Dangermouse

Hastings 15 Dec 16 9.47am

Originally posted by glaziermart

I'm sorry but i don't buy all this 'we woz robbed''the luck is not with us' we woz gutsy etc. I think our fight has gone. We were so passive first half and just invited United on to us. We made a bit of a fist of it early in the second half, but we looked so vulnerable to crosses. Players not picking up runners, being out jumped. There is a deeper malaise here. Poor tactics, poor coaching and we are also paying for a poor pre-season which has resulted in us looking unfit. We were such a fit team when Pardew took over and we had quality as well. Anyone remember how brilliant we were at Anfield for the Stevie G farewell. We have even more quality now, but look worse as a team!!!! Who else is to blame apart from Pardew?? It is like the life is slowly being drained from us. We need to act now before it is too late

This team never gives up. It may have it's limitations, but lacking fight is totally insulting to them. Last night Wilf and Macca sacrificed their games for large spells playing out of their regular positions for the sake of the team. The approach was the right one IMO, but late on we lost concentration again. Sick of this happening every week now. Time for a change.

Edited by Dangermouse (15 Dec 2016 9.50am)

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Dangermouse Hastings 15 Dec 16 9.48am
Originally posted by Bangell Fight and spirit and commitment we still have aplenty. Discipline, organisation and leadership, on the other hand... Could of saved myself a longish reply. Spot on. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Dangermouse

Hastings 15 Dec 16 9.48am

Originally posted by Bangell

Fight and spirit and commitment we still have aplenty. Discipline, organisation and leadership, on the other hand...

Could of saved myself a longish reply. Spot on.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Johng 15 Dec 16 9.49am
Originally posted by KAOS What a team lacks in quality can be made up with sheer belief, professionalism & organisation. We have none of these things and game by game what little we do have diminishes further! We should be able to hold on for a draw, we should be able to grind out a result from time to time, we should be able to frustrate teams defensively with an organised defence and midfield. The gulf is no bigger than it’s ever been and look at what Leicester did last season deploying the 3 aforementioned skills. Also, look at where Watford are currently? Look at how Bournemouth conduct themselves? Etc … Utter b*llox being served by way of excuses by Pardew and some fans on this site! The anti Pardew brigade don’t expect Europe they just expect the 3 things I’ve mentioned as they can get you through games. Pardews new tactic of trying to outscore the opposition – whoever it is – is niave, shortsighted and ignorant/arrogant! The man is a fool … Well said that man. Difficult to argue with a single word. Did anyone believe for a moment that we would hang on for the draw? I dread to think what will happen on Saturday.
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15 Dec 16 9.49am

Originally posted by KAOS

What a team lacks in quality can be made up with sheer belief, professionalism & organisation. We have none of these things and game by game what little we do have diminishes further!

We should be able to hold on for a draw, we should be able to grind out a result from time to time, we should be able to frustrate teams defensively with an organised defence and midfield.

The gulf is no bigger than it’s ever been and look at what Leicester did last season deploying the 3 aforementioned skills.

Also, look at where Watford are currently? Look at how Bournemouth conduct themselves? Etc …

Well said that man. Difficult to argue with a single word. Did anyone believe for a moment that we would hang on for the draw? I dread to think what will happen on Saturday.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Dec 16 10.17am
Originally posted by merganser There was no lack of fight tonight. I thought it was a gritty, battling performance. The problem is that we can't afford to buy in the top talent in the same way as clubs such as Man U. The gulf is wider than ever. Edited by merganser (15 Dec 2016 12.00am) Pogba (90m Transfer, 290k a week) Ibrahimovic (free, but 200k a week). 490k a week, two players. Both world class players with massive pedigree. They made all the difference (and both United goals). The gulf in class between the squads to me, suggests the fact we were in it until the end, speaks volumes about our fight and determination. Cabaye looked transformed tonight. Problem is, we played this well against United and were resolute, where as against Burnley, Swansea and Hull we were gifting easy chances. If we played like that in those three games, we'd be on 24 points. And that is why he has to go. Not because Man Utd, but because we can't play that well against teams we actually need to get points from. Edited by jamiemartin721 (15 Dec 2016 10.23am) "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 15 Dec 16 10.17am

Originally posted by merganser

There was no lack of fight tonight.

I thought it was a gritty, battling performance.

The problem is that we can't afford to buy in the top talent in the same way as clubs such as Man U.

The gulf is wider than ever.

Edited by merganser (15 Dec 2016 12.00am)

Pogba (90m Transfer, 290k a week) Ibrahimovic (free, but 200k a week).

490k a week, two players. Both world class players with massive pedigree.

They made all the difference (and both United goals).

The gulf in class between the squads to me, suggests the fact we were in it until the end, speaks volumes about our fight and determination. Cabaye looked transformed tonight.

Problem is, we played this well against United and were resolute, where as against Burnley, Swansea and Hull we were gifting easy chances.

If we played like that in those three games, we'd be on 24 points. And that is why he has to go. Not because Man Utd, but because we can't play that well against teams we actually need to get points from.

Edited by jamiemartin721 (15 Dec 2016 10.23am)

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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KAOS In a tree 15 Dec 16 10.17am
Exactly mate. But the pro Pardew wallies (Cucking aside as I always respect what he has to say) resigned themselves to losing against Man U & Chelsea weeks ago so discount these games when assessing Pardews suitability for the position! I mean, 6 wins in 40+ games and we can afford to discount games … WTF!!! I seriously think some people need to take their head out of their arse’s and Pardews for that matter and ADMIT we are f*cked until he leaves!!!
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In a tree 15 Dec 16 10.17am

Exactly mate. But the pro Pardew wallies (Cucking aside as I always respect what he has to say) resigned themselves to losing against Man U & Chelsea weeks ago so discount these games when assessing Pardews suitability for the position! I mean, 6 wins in 40+ games and we can afford to discount games … WTF!!!

I seriously think some people need to take their head out of their arse’s and Pardews for that matter and ADMIT we are f*cked until he leaves!!!

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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Dec 16 10.19am
Originally posted by Dangermouse Could of saved myself a longish reply. Spot on. First half we looked disciplined and resolute at the back. Flamini, McArthur and Cabaye seemed to work well. Less so, McArthur, Cabaye and Ledley, but we got back in it. And McArthur for Campbell - WTF - that hammered home that Pardew is a gambler, and a chancer, rather than a pragmatist tactician. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 15 Dec 16 10.19am

Originally posted by Dangermouse

Could of saved myself a longish reply. Spot on.

First half we looked disciplined and resolute at the back. Flamini, McArthur and Cabaye seemed to work well. Less so, McArthur, Cabaye and Ledley, but we got back in it.

And McArthur for Campbell - WTF - that hammered home that Pardew is a gambler, and a chancer, rather than a pragmatist tactician.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Dec 16 10.22am
Originally posted by KAOS Exactly mate. But the pro Pardew wallies (Cucking aside as I always respect what he has to say) resigned themselves to losing against Man U & Chelsea weeks ago so discount these games when assessing Pardews suitability for the position! I mean, 6 wins in 40+ games and we can afford to discount games … WTF!!! I seriously think some people need to take their head out of their arse’s and Pardews for that matter and ADMIT we are f*cked until he leaves!!! Well I think you can discount the idea of getting points against Man Utd and Chelsea, realistically speaking, you can't judge someone on those games. Until you're 4 or five minutes from getting a point, under pressure from some stunning midfielders and attackers, and decide to substitute a midfielder for a barely capable striker, just because he won you a brief reprieve with a last minute goal against Hull (that you shouldn't have needed). "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 15 Dec 16 10.22am

Originally posted by KAOS

I seriously think some people need to take their head out of their arse’s and Pardews for that matter and ADMIT we are f*cked until he leaves!!!

Well I think you can discount the idea of getting points against Man Utd and Chelsea, realistically speaking, you can't judge someone on those games. Until you're 4 or five minutes from getting a point, under pressure from some stunning midfielders and attackers, and decide to substitute a midfielder for a barely capable striker, just because he won you a brief reprieve with a last minute goal against Hull (that you shouldn't have needed).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Inapickle South West 15 Dec 16 10.29am
Originally posted by glaziermart I'm sorry but i don't buy all this 'we woz robbed''the luck is not with us' we woz gutsy etc. I think our fight has gone. We were so passive first half and just invited United on to us. We made a bit of a fist of it early in the second half, but we looked so vulnerable to crosses. Players not picking up runners, being out jumped. There is a deeper malaise here. Poor tactics, poor coaching and we are also paying for a poor pre-season which has resulted in us looking unfit. We were such a fit team when Pardew took over and we had quality as well. Anyone remember how brilliant we were at Anfield for the Stevie G farewell. We have even more quality now, but look worse as a team!!!! Who else is to blame apart from Pardew?? It is like the life is slowly being drained from us. We need to act now before it is too late ..you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
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Inapickle

South West 15 Dec 16 10.29am

Originally posted by glaziermart

..you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

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KAOS In a tree 15 Dec 16 10.30am
I’m not judging on these 2 games just ‘all’ the results in 2016 of which we have won 6 in 40+ games, don’t know how to grind out a draw, a win, keep a clean sheet, no leadership, ridiculous substitutions, no suggestion things will get better etc! We beat Chelsea at home the other season and yes it was a surprise but we know 100% we will lose on Saturday … that’s a big difference!!!!
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In a tree 15 Dec 16 10.30am

I’m not judging on these 2 games just ‘all’ the results in 2016 of which we have won 6 in 40+ games, don’t know how to grind out a draw, a win, keep a clean sheet, no leadership, ridiculous substitutions, no suggestion things will get better etc! We beat Chelsea at home the other season and yes it was a surprise but we know 100% we will lose on Saturday … that’s a big difference!!!!

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