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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Dec 16 5.21pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

Nowhere near good enough. I said 6 points from the last 3 games would be enough to buy Pardew some time, but after today and the Swansea game he has to go. He can't take responsibility for the way we attack, all he's done is bought a very expensive (but very good) striker. If we had had Benteke under Pulis and Warnock we would have scored more goals. What he is responsible for is the complete and utter shambles that we have become in the midfield when we don't have the ball, ignoring the fact that we can't allow teams to come onto us. Every team that comes to Selhurst Park hassles us and presses us and we never, ever do this to the opposition. It is so blatantly obvious as to be a joke that he hasn't noticed.

So he is responsible for what we do badly but not for what we do well? Seems fair

 


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chateauferret Flag 10 Dec 16 5.23pm

Shipped five goals to the bottom team
Shipped three goals to the lowest scorers in the division
Shipped three goals to another relegation candidate
Four points from seven games

Now, you can't legislate for what was probably the most ridiculous ref decision of the season so far. Nor is it by design that Tomkins was not available.

But really Hull have been so bad we should have been able to put them to bed with no trouble with Wilf playing like that. But as usual the defenders fail to close down and we turn the ball over in midfield so that it just comes back on to us.

There's no excuse for a clearly qualified Premiership defence to be losing so many goals to such bad sides who really have done nothing special to deserve them. It's not even as if Hennessey has committed gaffes.

If he could fix this he would have done by now.

 


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Alex1991 Flag Ashford 10 Dec 16 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

So he is responsible for what we do badly but not for what we do well? Seems fair

It was blindingly obvious that we would score more goals with a quality striker. Pardew wasn't the only one who came to that conclusion. Benteke has always scored goals and Wilf has always been able to skin a defender. That's not all Pardew's genius is it ?

Our defence used to be good, and now is terrible. That comes down to them being poorly drilled and unsure of their roles in certain situations. That is down to the manager and the way he instructs his coaching staff and the players.

So yes, he is responsible for the negatives (defence), and can only take partial responsibility for the positives (attack).

 


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Mstrobez Flag 10 Dec 16 5.28pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

So Hull are the worst team in the league?

Two weeks ago everyone said that was Swansea

Week before that is was Burnley.

There's 8-9 teams at the moment that are in danger, we are one of them but we are sitting near the top of that pile

Guess what. We lost to 2 of those and drew with the other. Really struggling with the logic that was used that puts us "near the top of that pile"

Edited by Mstrobez (10 Dec 2016 5.30pm)

 


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Mstrobez Flag 10 Dec 16 5.29pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

So he is responsible for what we do badly but not for what we do well? Seems fair

That's actually exactly what I'm saying. Your just blinded. The players are effectively keeping him in a job.

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Dec 16 5.29pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Guess what. We lost to 2 of those and drew with the other. Struggle how that puts us "near the top of the pile"

Simple the league table

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Dec 16 5.30pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

That's actually exactly what I'm saying. Your just blinded. The players are effectively keeping him in a job.

Why am I blinded? I've said that I think he should go


It just seems a lot of critics don't seem particularly objective.

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Dec 16 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

It was blindingly obvious that we would score more goals with a quality striker. Pardew wasn't the only one who came to that conclusion. Benteke has always scored goals and Wilf has always been able to skin a defender. That's not all Pardew's genius is it ?

Our defence used to be good, and now is terrible. That comes down to them being poorly drilled and unsure of their roles in certain situations. That is down to the manager and the way he instructs his coaching staff and the players.

So yes, he is responsible for the negatives (defence), and can only take partial responsibility for the positives (attack).


Wilf can skin people but he hasn't always had end product, this season he has.

And once again, I think Pardew should go but I think that people should try to be objective


 


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sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 10 Dec 16 5.40pm Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch


Wilf can skin people but he hasn't always had end product, this season he has.

And once again, I think Pardew should go but I think that people should try to be objective


Stop being sensible. Against forum rules doncha know.

 

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orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 10 Dec 16 5.42pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

I fail see why he is wholly resposible for the bad bits yet only gets partial credit for the good bits.

Seems unobjective and that you are looking to justify your stance at a time when we have perhaps turned an admittedly small corner.

The doom goblins wanted 4 points from these games and that is what we have got.

 

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Mstrobez Flag 10 Dec 16 5.43pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Why am I blinded? I've said that I think he should go


It just seems a lot of critics don't seem particularly objective.

But the point you're making is he isn't responsible for the bad stuff or hes responsible for all the good stuff. So why should he go under that logic? Strange way to view affairs

 


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NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 10 Dec 16 5.43pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by Medway Eagle

Totally pathetic performance, Its really not good enough. Pardew needs to go now and Parish needs to Listen to the voice of the people who have supported this club through thick and thin. I cant believe his thumbs up to Parish last week after one win, What an arrogant man he is

Again we score 3 goals and lose, Ive not seen the stat's but I am sure Hull had the majority of possession. Some on here talk about enjoying the exciting goal fest. I get no pleasure whatsoever in watching my team lose with any score. And now i guess we are looking at Pardew until the end of the season. Probably our last in the premier for a few years. I just wish he was man enough to resign


No we didn't.

 


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