I'd say that the media did everything possible to paint Muslim attacks in Europe as "lone wolf" until Paris, when it became clear that it was more of a pack.Oh not to mention the casualties being in the hundreds.

One woman killed = Nazi uprising.

Hundreds killed by ISIS sympathisers = Let's not blame Islam.

Ok, playing devil's advocate, let's blame Islam for the ISIS attacks. What next? What does this mean for ordinary Muslims?

Edited by nickgusset (24 Nov 2016 3.24pm)

I was being serious. You (by complaining that you can't blame Islam for ISIS) have essentially blamed Islam for Isis. Can you expand on this?

Whilst we are on the subject of the news, do you think Cox's killer was affected by the constant hate lies and half truths about anything muslim or foreign or European in the UK media of late?

I think its important to blame ISIS when its ISIS' fault, rather than blaming Muslims as a whole. Same way that someone like Muir isn't the far right, he's on the fringe of the far right (probably associated with National Action rather than Britain First) - And he'd be their second political motivated murderer.

There is a massive gulf between groups like UKIP and the BNP, EDL, Britain First and then them and National Action / Combat 18 et al. Much as there is between people being Muslims and being ISIS.

National Action have adopted Muir's 'Death to Traitors, Freedom for Britian' as their moto and are a 'direct action' group.

It would be erroneous to suggest people like Muir are are anything more than a tiny minority of the far right. However they are definitely also more than a few loan wolfs.

The far right in the UK is about as poorly unified as the far left, maybe worse, consisting of numerous groups ranging from the more political to the militant minded (and in between).

Its important to remember that whilst groups like the BNP and EDL have some fascist and neo-Nazi members and similarities, they aren't. Not in the way groups like National Action, The Infidels (related to the National Front) and Combat 18 who openly embrace Fascism and National Socialist political beliefs at their core.

They might only number a few hundred or so members across the UK (probably not much more than 1000 or so).

Edited by jamiemartin721 (24 Nov 2016 4.02pm)

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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You haven't countered anything. Not even the why the daily mail buried the conviction of someone who killed an MP on p.30. An MP was killed and it's on page 30!

Isn't this the reverse of what you were accusing Nick of, because I certainly remember a lot of coverage on the trials of those child sex gangs, and a lot of outcry against the police and social services who TOTALLY allowed it to happen.

Then again the BBC hasn't had the best reputation for breaking stories about pedophiles....

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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