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Stuk Top half 21 Nov 16 4.12pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Its certainly a case of interesting times. I think the mainstream parties will take a battering, though I don't think the Front National will win, it'll be close Nor do I. As they have a voting system over there that borders on rigging it. Mind you UKIP & the Greens might say the same about ours.
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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 21 Nov 16 7.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Nor do I. As they have a voting system over there that borders on rigging it. Mind you UKIP & the Greens might say the same about ours. I'm intrigued to hear this- care to explain?
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Stuk Top half 21 Nov 16 7.31pm | |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
I'm intrigued to hear this- care to explain? One of the two mainstream partiesonot fielding their candidate in round 2, in order to not split the vote against a third party that does well in round 1.
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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 22 Nov 16 8.36am | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
One of the two mainstream partiesonot fielding their candidate in round 2, in order to not split the vote against a third party that does well in round 1. Well, call it rigging if you want, but it's normal practice, and intended to ensure that no "extreme" candidate can win. It kept out the communists in the early post war years and latterly the FN of Le Pen, père et fille. Next year, however, people here are afraid that even this tactical withdrawal will not be enough, as Marine has been making gains even in the small rural communes, who are not directly affected by immigration, but feel that they are paying for it nonetheless. This is a worrying development.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 22 Nov 16 11.36am | |
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hilarious napoleon sarkozy got his marching orders , and take his supermodel geebag with him
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We are goin up! Coulsdon 22 Nov 16 11.59am | |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
Well, call it rigging if you want, but it's normal practice, and intended to ensure that no "extreme" candidate can win. It kept out the communists in the early post war years and latterly the FN of Le Pen, père et fille. Next year, however, people here are afraid that even this tactical withdrawal will not be enough, as Marine has been making gains even in the small rural communes, who are not directly affected by immigration, but feel that they are paying for it nonetheless. This is a worrying development.
I lived in France for a year, Montpellier to be precise. The segregation between the indigenous French and the Maghreban (Tunisian, Moroccan, Algerian etc) communities was stark. I actually (accidentally) lived in a more Maghreban part of town and crime was very high, employment very low. It was like a ghetto. However, even in the centre of Montpellier the youths of that community were constantly thieving, looting, vandalising and generally being a pain in the arse. Do you not think this kind of thing in the cities has actually lead to Le Pen's rise? I might be completely misreading the country as France is a big place and I was only there for 10 months (and that was in 2012), but the racial segregation was much more stark than anything I've seen in the UK. From personal experience, I'm not surprised an anti-Islamic message is working (not that I agree with it).
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PalazioVecchio south pole 22 Nov 16 12.25pm | |
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if the french republic cannot deliver 'egalite' then it is doomed. it must bridge its divisions or face civil unrest. Le Pen will not come to power because all the ethnic and religious minorities will vote for the other fella. the White secular/christian French will be divided 50:50 or even 60:40. final outcome....another merkel, hollonde, sarkozy type. All talk and nothing much else while the country goes down the toilet. the former yugoslavia springs to mind. The UK is way way more harmonious than france. Perhaps they should all learn tolerance from looking across La Manche.
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Stuk Top half 22 Nov 16 3.48pm | |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
Well, call it rigging if you want, but it's normal practice, and intended to ensure that no "extreme" candidate can win. It kept out the communists in the early post war years and latterly the FN of Le Pen, père et fille. Next year, however, people here are afraid that even this tactical withdrawal will not be enough, as Marine has been making gains even in the small rural communes, who are not directly affected by immigration, but feel that they are paying for it nonetheless. This is a worrying development. I know it's normal practice in France but I do think it is an awful voting system. It might also be potentially responsible for the FN doing so well, so often, in round 1. In areas where the mainstream left or right usually win their voters can vote for the FN in round 1 (or someone else they don't like/rate), to make sure they advance to round 2, giving the favourite an even easier ride.
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matt_himself Matataland 01 Dec 16 9.10pm | |
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Hollande bottles it, knowing he is going to get slaughtered:
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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chris123 hove actually 01 Dec 16 10.06pm | |
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I hadn't realised until recently that Mme Fillon is Welsh.
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richard shaw (og)65 my minds eye 02 Dec 16 8.47am | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Marine Le Pen: would. I know what you mean , she looks like she smells nice
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 02 Dec 16 11.53am | |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Hollande bottles it, knowing he is going to get slaughtered: Doubt Valls etc will make it to the second round still but might make it a little more interesting. Hollande is doing a good job in ensuring no other politician can ever claim the "most hated" title from him. I think Petain could come back and say he would collaborate all over again and he'd still win over Hollande. And how the hell does Hollande keep getting all these women? Royale, Trierweiler, and Gayet? It's nuts. He looks like a low-rent Sgt Bilko.
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