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bicycle repair man 04 Oct 16 10.46pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

Originally posted by TheArmaniCode

since the start of the season pal. have you been listening to what I've been saying? Like how we turned a corner after beating middlesbrough even though we got to the FA Cup final last year. And yes I agree, he has been key ever since we came up, but so far he's struggled to get going. That is all I am saying, bloody hell.

OK.But i don't see a very long line of quality English right backs if Clynne gets injured again.

 

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palace-metros Flag Redhill 04 Oct 16 10.57pm Send a Private Message to palace-metros Add palace-metros as a friend

Originally posted by TheArmaniCode

sorry, didn't realise you weren't allowed to criticise players on here.

Sorry, didn't realise you weren't allowed to criticise people who criticise players on here.

 


Before you criticise someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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phillanth Flag London 04 Oct 16 11.05pm

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

OK.But i don't see a very long line of quality English right backs if Clynne gets injured again.

Exactly - a poor Ward is still better than Johnson.

 

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TheArmaniCode Flag 04 Oct 16 11.07pm Send a Private Message to TheArmaniCode Add TheArmaniCode as a friend

very true, but I still don't think ward's the best option we've got personally. And let's be honest, this whole thing speaks volumes of the state the national team's in right now

 

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TheArmaniCode Flag 04 Oct 16 11.08pm Send a Private Message to TheArmaniCode Add TheArmaniCode as a friend

Originally posted by palace-metros

Sorry, didn't realise you weren't allowed to criticise people who criticise players on here.


Can't argue with that

 

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TheArmaniCode Flag 04 Oct 16 11.10pm Send a Private Message to TheArmaniCode Add TheArmaniCode as a friend

Originally posted by TheArmaniCode

very true, but I still don't think ward's the best option we've got personally. And let's be honest, this whole thing speaks volumes of the state the national team's in right now

England I mean, not Palace

 

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Daddyorc Flag Atlantic Highlands, NJ 05 Oct 16 12.07am Send a Private Message to Daddyorc Add Daddyorc as a friend

Ward has been great all year. When paired with Townsend in the beginning of the year didn't have the rapport with him, but when Zaha came back on the right he works very well with him.

Tell me a bad game (not one individual moment - which every back has) that he has had this year...

 

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thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 05 Oct 16 3.00am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Let's be fair - more (a lot) than once Ward has been one of our weakest players, but funny enough - never had real competition in team. Guess next summer we will have an upgrade on the right back position? BTW, only talking about JW as a player - he seems such a great person to have around..

 

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bicycle repair man 05 Oct 16 10.01am Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

If Ward has been one of our weakest players it seems odd none of managers have tried to replace him.

 

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CJr94 Flag Holmesdale Road 05 Oct 16 10.42am Send a Private Message to CJr94 Add CJr94 as a friend

One of my favourite players as he seems loyal to the club and works had for the team.. as for technical ability, does he really have what it takes to play for England? I don't think so IMO.

 

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Loz83 Flag Crawley 05 Oct 16 10.47am Send a Private Message to Loz83 Add Loz83 as a friend

Ward was poor last season, but so far this season he's looking good he looks a yard quicker. It could be the change of tactics allows him to get forward more? But he's nowhere near good enough for England.

 

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Part Time James Flag 05 Oct 16 11.37am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Ward, for me, was one of the few players that came up with us to the Premier League that I felt would be "Premiership ready" and I think in the first of those seasons he was right up there. Last season I thought he had gone off the boil a little. Still a great player, but I was disappointed that I felt he wasn't quite at his previous best. He's started well this season and don't get me wrong, I have no concern seeing his name on the teamsheet every week. Testimony to his ability, you rarely hear fans on this forum begging for us to sign a right back each transfer window.

However, I feel that he might be better than some players who DO get England games, maybe... but I wouldn't have really judged him to be quite good enough to play for the country. To put my comment in perspective, if Joel Ward was an England first team player then I'd see it more as a reflection on the lack of decent English fullbacks rather than the quality of the player.

I'll put my tin hat on in case anyone decides to ignore 90% of what I've said and thinks I am having a go at a defender I actually rate.

Edited by Part Time James (05 Oct 2016 11.37am)

 




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