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 JRW2  Dulwich 02 Oct 16 8.45pm |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
With me the jury's definitely still out. And with me: 9 of our 11 points have come from teams currently in the bottom 5 of the table (including the bottom 2).
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| PA Bedfordshire 02 Oct 16 9.17pm |
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Originally posted by Inapickle
..now you have to break that down a bit, to simply say that it was a disastrous run is suggesting that we didn't turn up and didn't perform during it, but we did turn up and we did perform in all of the games in this run, but if you are going to include all the deflected shots that went into our goal and all the unbelievable silly stupid decisions from the stupid overworked and extremely dumb referees and all the very silly mistakes from individual players (that have nothing to do with Pardew or the other players around the said culprit) then yes it was a disastrous run. Why is reference to a 'disastrous run', a suggestion of not turning up? It's only that suggestion in your head and no where else. And referees are not overworked. Not even close.
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| glaziermart 02 Oct 16 10.52pm |
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I've been one of his fiercest critics, but you have to give him a lot of credit for the summer signings we have made. We have moved up a level from the end of last season
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| Painter Croydon 03 Oct 16 1.42pm |
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Originally posted by JRW2
And with me: 9 of our 11 points have come from teams currently in the bottom 5 of the table (including the bottom 2). Has it occurred to you, they are there because we beat them. At this stage of the season a lose effects the league position more.
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| JacksonEagle Croydon 03 Oct 16 4.17pm |
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This is exactly what happened last season, I'm not Pardews biggest fan, but for now we seem to be on the up and he's turned things around, but lets see where we are in 7 months rather then 7 games...
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bodge  03 Oct 16 4.29pm |
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I would say we have the points we would expect from our fixtures but the football has progressed way beyond the standard of last season AP must take credit for that. The next few games will test us big time but we are up to it if Everton is anything to go by.
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| wonder Madrid 03 Oct 16 4.30pm |
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cant get my head around bentekes headers but i think ill always worry about pardew Edited by wonder (03 Oct 2016 4.38pm)
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| citizensmudge midlands 03 Oct 16 5.04pm |
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People still not sure about AP wouldn't enjoy a Lotto Jackpot cos it wasn't the Euro Millions.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Oct 16 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by Jacey
At the end of last season and after the first two games of this season,,to say there was a calling for the sacking of AP, with such a disastrous run, was an understatement.
You can't really just draw a line and say, we're judging from this point and only on this area of performance, to determine whether something has objectively been a success or not. Yes, it was a terrible run. But seeing it specifically only in terms of that run, is myopic its fitting evidence to win the argument, rather than to support the right decision.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Oct 16 5.18pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
Has it occurred to you, they are there because we beat them. At this stage of the season a lose effects the league position more. Doesn't matter where the points come from, as long as you get them. And if they're the clubs that are in the bottom come end of season, all the better - because those are the clubs we have to beat. Only very foolish people think we should be taking points off of the likes of Man City, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal and this season Liverpool. Those are bonus points. We drew with Everton, and were somewhat very unfortunate to not get all three points, and they're in exceptional form.
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| JRW2 Dulwich 03 Oct 16 9.18pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
Has it occurred to you, they are there because we beat them. At this stage of the season a lose effects the league position more. I hear what you're saying, but I'm not sure it invalidates my point. The three teams from which we've taken 9 of our 11 points are in the bottom five not because we've beaten them but because in 21 games between them they have amassed just 1 win.
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