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 Part Time James  12 Sep 16 11.15am |
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Originally posted by Stuk
The longer the victims stay quiet about it, the more victims there are. When people did finally accuse Savile it was too late to prevent any further victims and too late to punish him for it. Should there be a time limit for victims of murder to raise their concerns?
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| Stuk Top half 12 Sep 16 11.21am |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Should there be a time limit for victims of murder to raise their concerns? They get raised by default, they don't even get an option. I would have a time limit for investigating them though. I heard yesterday that there are 13 officers still working full time on the Stephen Lawrence case. 13 people, 23 years on?
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| Part Time James 12 Sep 16 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Stuk
They get raised by default, they don't even get an option. I would have a time limit for investigating them though. I heard yesterday that there are 13 officers still working full time on the Stephen Lawrence case. 13 people, 23 years on? It's amazing how much money has been piped into looking for one missing little girl out of hundreds of missing kids as well. Lots of money despite the fact the police allegedly haven't spent much resource at all on investigating that little girl's parents. I tend to agree with you though by the way. My initial comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but I do think criminals ought to be able to go back to sleeping at night once the heat is off.
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| Stuk Top half 12 Sep 16 11.52am |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
It's amazing how much money has been piped into looking for one missing little girl out of hundreds of missing kids as well. Lots of money despite the fact the police allegedly haven't spent much resource at all on investigating that little girl's parents. I tend to agree with you though by the way. My initial comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but I do think criminals ought to be able to go back to sleeping at night once the heat is off. There's two cases that have had huge amounts spent on them, including extra money from government, as another family of a missing child from years ago have recently requested they get the same. And they are hoping the petition will mean Damien's case will attract extra funding for one last push in the same way as the Maddie McCann inquiry received an extra £12 million and Ben Needham inquiry was given £1 million so detectives could travel to Kos earlier this year.
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| Stuk Top half 12 Sep 16 11.56am |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
It's amazing how much money has been piped into looking for one missing little girl out of hundreds of missing kids as well. Lots of money despite the fact the police allegedly haven't spent much resource at all on investigating that little girl's parents. I tend to agree with you though by the way. My initial comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but I do think criminals ought to be able to go back to sleeping at night once the heat is off.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Sep 16 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Should there be a time limit for victims of murder to raise their concerns? About that... no. Their relatives maybe
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Sep 16 12.10pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
They get raised by default, they don't even get an option. I would have a time limit for investigating them though. I heard yesterday that there are 13 officers still working full time on the Stephen Lawrence case. 13 people, 23 years on? High profile murder, with police corruption, questionable use of undercover officers, links to another unsolved murder and a series of police humilations and blunders over the entire course of the investigation. There's a lot more to this, not least its relationship with the Daniel Morgan murder (and corruption allegations linked to Clifford Norris). Plus there are still several known suspects at large who almost certainly were involved, and could still be charged. I'm not surprised there are at least 13 officers assigned to this one. Its got legs - esp with the rising profile of the Daniel Morgan murder case in the media.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Sep 16 12.12pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
It's amazing how much money has been piped into looking for one missing little girl out of hundreds of missing kids as well. Lots of money despite the fact the police allegedly haven't spent much resource at all on investigating that little girl's parents. I tend to agree with you though by the way. My initial comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but I do think criminals ought to be able to go back to sleeping at night once the heat is off. I think the question is why do we only single out cases like these too for such continuity of investigation (i.e. media profile). Obviously the less famous victims deserve justice too.
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| Stuk Top half 12 Sep 16 12.14pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
High profile murder, with police corruption, questionable use of undercover officers, links to another unsolved murder and a series of police humilations and blunders over the entire course of the investigation. There's a lot more to this, not least its relationship with the Daniel Morgan murder (and corruption allegations linked to Clifford Norris). Plus there are still several known suspects at large who almost certainly were involved, and could still be charged. I'm not surprised there are at least 13 officers assigned to this one. Its got legs - esp with the rising profile of the Daniel Morgan murder case in the media. 13 people looking at it at for a year, maybe. 23 years is ridiculous and the costs involved must be unimaginable. And there's two people in jail serving time for it.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Sep 16 12.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Yes, even if there is the need to gather evidence you should report that you've been a victim of crime within x number of years. I'm not saying a time limit on being able to prosecute someone if it can be proven later, but the accusation has to be logged. Some crimes that's applicable to. But serious crimes generally don't have a statute of limitation due to their serious nature. Murder and sexual offences are definitely classed as the most serious offences committed against a person.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Sep 16 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
13 people looking at it at for a year, maybe. 23 years is ridiculous and the costs involved must be unimaginable. And there's two people in jail serving time for it. It depends on the case, evidence, and whether or not they're doing anything else. It's an open murder, so by default there would be a lead investigator and people periodically going back to it and related issues that arose from it or relate to it. Most open cases are periodically reviewed or reopened when new evidence or lines of enquiry come up.
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| Part Time James 12 Sep 16 12.49pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think the question is why do we only single out cases like these too for such continuity of investigation (i.e. media profile). Obviously the less famous victims deserve justice too. I guess I'd be in the wrong to fall into the trap of believing all the conspiracy theories on that one (the one I mentioned), but the whole thing did/does seem a bit odd.
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