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 Stuk  Top half 18 Apr 16 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
This is all speculation. We really don't know what was in the mindset of the referee. No it isn't. Giving that penalty to the home side in the last minute after a plethora of bad decisions is weakness, plain and simple. The earlier ones you could label mistakes, but the last one was a "get me out of this" decision.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Apr 16 2.35pm |
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Referee made two questionable decisions, one which benefitted West Ham, one that benefitted Leicester. Most of us would be happy with that. The issue Leicester fans have is with Vardy being sent off. It was an excellent decision. Vardy engineered the foul to get a penalty and a certain red card advantage, then went down theatrically, and rightly got booked. Then abused the referee. The person Leicester fans should be angry with isn't the referee, its Vardy. He was on a yellow, and dived, and could face further sanction for then having a hissy fit at the referee. Both of Vardy's cards were yellow card offences. The second yellow, the referee either gives a penalty and red card, or a second yellow for simulation. There isn't really an alternative. West Ham, might well feel aggrieved at the penalty, but then they were utterly robbed against Arsenal the week before, and no one seemed to care. I thought it was soft, but f**k it, they happen - And Leicester probably should have had a penalty five to ten minutes before hand. The problem the referee created for himself, was letting far too much go early in the game.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Apr 16 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
No it isn't. Giving that penalty to the home side in the last minute after a plethora of bad decisions is weakness, plain and simple. The earlier ones you could label mistakes, but the last one was a "get me out of this" decision. See it quite a lot though, a referee doesn't give a penalty they probably should have, and then gives a soft one, that they probably wouldn't have done.
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| Stuk Top half 18 Apr 16 3.13pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Referee made two questionable decisions, one which benefitted West Ham, one that benefitted Leicester. Most of us would be happy with that. The issue Leicester fans have is with Vardy being sent off. It was an excellent decision. Vardy engineered the foul to get a penalty and a certain red card advantage, then went down theatrically, and rightly got booked. Then abused the referee. The person Leicester fans should be angry with isn't the referee, its Vardy. He was on a yellow, and dived, and could face further sanction for then having a hissy fit at the referee. Both of Vardy's cards were yellow card offences. The second yellow, the referee either gives a penalty and red card, or a second yellow for simulation. There isn't really an alternative. West Ham, might well feel aggrieved at the penalty, but then they were utterly robbed against Arsenal the week before, and no one seemed to care. I thought it was soft, but f**k it, they happen - And Leicester probably should have had a penalty five to ten minutes before hand. The problem the referee created for himself, was letting far too much go early in the game. Both sets of fans seem to be in agreement that the only decision the ref got right was Vardy's second yellow.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Apr 16 3.19pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Both sets of fans seem to be in agreement that the only decision the ref got right was Vardy's second yellow. Wes Morgan didn't complain when a penalty was awarded against him so this would suggest that it was the right decision. Edited by Willo (18 Apr 2016 3.19pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 18 Apr 16 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Wes Morgan didn't complain when a penalty was awarded against him so this would suggest that it was the right decision. Edited by Willo (18 Apr 2016 3.19pm) The club blocked Morgan from talking to the press after the game for fear of him getting himself into trouble. Andy Carroll also quoted Morgan saying to him; "He doesn't know what he's doing, he's been bad all game." [Link] Hardly the actions of someone who felt it was the right decision.
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| Stuk Top half 18 Apr 16 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Wes Morgan didn't complain when a penalty was awarded against him so this would suggest that it was the right decision. Edited by Willo (18 Apr 2016 3.19pm) Oh yeah. That well known body language of hands on his head in utter disbelief really backs up your assertation. Stop blindly trying to defend a referee that has cocked up.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Apr 16 3.35pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Oh yeah. That well known body language of hands on his head in utter disbelief really backs up your assertation. Stop blindly trying to defend a referee that has cocked up. I think he was absolutely right to award a penalty for the Morgan incident, indeed both Morgan and Huth had been warned beforehand about their grappling in the box.
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| Stuk Top half 18 Apr 16 3.38pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I think he was absolutely right to award a penalty for the Morgan incident, indeed both Morgan and Huth had been warned beforehand about their grappling in the box. We don't care. You'd think a referee was right if he stuck his head up his arse and refereed the whole game without witnessing one minute of it. No one thinks it was right. Not the fans, not the pundits, not the players and not even the referee if ha gave an honest answer. Even you don't think it was right but you're determined to carry on the charade.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Apr 16 3.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
We don't care. You'd think a referee was right if he stuck his head up his arse and refereed the whole game without witnessing one minute of it. No one thinks it was right. Not the fans, not the pundits, not the players and not even the referee if ha gave an honest answer. Even you don't think it was right but you're determined to carry on the charade. What darned charade ? I'm only giving my honest opinion which clearly is at variance with yours.I stand firm that in my humble opinion the penalty award was CORRECT and I really couldn't give a hoot about the opinions of pundits and the like.In any event the assertion that pundits, players, fans etc etc is pure speculation and perhaps a gross generalisation. Edited by Willo (18 Apr 2016 3.46pm)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Apr 16 3.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
You'd think a referee was right if he stuck his head up his arse and refereed the whole game without witnessing one minute of it. I have consistently stated that referees DO make mistakes in the "Heat of battle", having to make split-second decisions in a very fast moving game.So NO, referees are not infallible. Anyway, I'm not going to add any more to this 'Thread' as I can see a WILLO thread emerging and they really don't do HOL any favours at all. Edited by Willo (18 Apr 2016 3.50pm)
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| Stuk Top half 18 Apr 16 3.54pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
What darned charade ? I'm only giving my honest opinion which clearly is at variance with yours.I stand firm that in my humble opinion the penalty award was CORRECT and I really couldn't give a hoot about the opinions of pundits and the like.In any event the assertion that pundits, players, fans etc etc is pure speculation and perhaps a gross generalisation.
That you know the first thing about football. Your only given reason is that Wes Morgan didn't complain. Something you don't know and the picture I've put up doesn't concur with.
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