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est1905 12 Mar 16 5.40pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 On 33 points our concern isn't whether or not Newcastle turn it around, its more about whether or not we can get 4-6 points from 30. If we were tight in with the bottom four, maybe their manager would make a difference, but really, if we go down, it will because we are too st to stay up. This is the point. If we take care of our own form none of us give a s* what Newcastle do. But I don't believe Benitez owns a magic wand. He is a better manager than McLaren and his name and presence will no doubt lift the team there in the short term but I believe he will lose to Leicester which will set the bench mark. He'll grab points from here and there sure he will. It wont be enough to overhaul us or Swansea though. Sunderland? Maybe but not a 9 point gap with 9 games to go. Its never been done. In fact statistically every single manager that has come in at this stage of the season when the team is in the bottom 3 has still gone on to be relegated.
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12 Mar 16 5.40pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

On 33 points our concern isn't whether or not Newcastle turn it around, its more about whether or not we can get 4-6 points from 30.

If we were tight in with the bottom four, maybe their manager would make a difference, but really, if we go down, it will because we are too s**t to stay up.

This is the point. If we take care of our own form none of us give a s*** what Newcastle do.
But I don't believe Benitez owns a magic wand. He is a better manager than McLaren and his name and presence will no doubt lift the team there in the short term but I believe he will lose to Leicester which will set the bench mark.
He'll grab points from here and there sure he will. It wont be enough to overhaul us or Swansea though. Sunderland? Maybe but not a 9 point gap with 9 games to go. Its never been done. In fact statistically every single manager that has come in at this stage of the season when the team is in the bottom 3 has still gone on to be relegated.

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essetwentyone london 14 Mar 16 9.52pm
Newcastle certainly looked more organised tonight but there is no real fight in the team . No strong tackles, no fouls and no cards - a soft team for Leicester to beat without breaking sweat. Rafa may be a top manager but I can't see him installing fire in his players bellies like Sam Allardyce does. Sunderland will beat them next week IMO.
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london 14 Mar 16 9.52pm

Newcastle certainly looked more organised tonight but there is no real fight in the team . No strong tackles, no fouls and no cards - a soft team for Leicester to beat without breaking sweat. Rafa may be a top manager but I can't see him installing fire in his players bellies like Sam Allardyce does. Sunderland will beat them next week IMO.

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topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 14 Mar 16 10.33pm
Originally posted by essetwentyone Newcastle certainly looked more organised tonight but there is no real fight in the team . No strong tackles, no fouls and no cards - a soft team for Leicester to beat without breaking sweat. Rafa may be a top manager but I can't see him installing fire in his players bellies like Sam Allardyce does. Sunderland will beat them next week IMO. I hope you are right. It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
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Holmesdale / Surbiton 14 Mar 16 10.33pm

Originally posted by essetwentyone

I hope you are right.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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blind eagle Covington.Tennessee 14 Mar 16 11.00pm
Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle What I cannot understand is that he has a get out clause if they get relegated ! What sort of commitment is that and why would you even consider employing someone who did not commit to the club or even offer such a contract. All very strange. Good manager and it will certainly give them a boost. If we are not on our toes now we had better be because the pressure is ramping up ! Who makes a commitment when he becomes manager? It all depends on how much lolly is offered!,
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Covington.Tennessee 14 Mar 16 11.00pm

Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle

What I cannot understand is that he has a get out clause if they get relegated ! What sort of commitment is that and why would you even consider employing someone who did not commit to the club or even offer such a contract. All very strange. Good manager and it will certainly give them a boost. If we are not on our toes now we had better be because the pressure is ramping up !

Who makes a commitment when he becomes manager? It all depends on how much lolly is offered!,

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essetwentyone london 15 Mar 16 10.45am
Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle What I cannot understand is that he has a get out clause if they get relegated ! What sort of commitment is that and why would you even consider employing someone who did not commit to the club or even offer such a contract. I think it makes complete sense. Without the clause Newcastle wouldn't have got him maybe not even in the summer if they stay up. If they do go down they might need to reduce overheads. He would probably be a fish out of water in the Championship.
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london 15 Mar 16 10.45am

Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle

I think it makes complete sense.

Without the clause Newcastle wouldn't have got him maybe not even in the summer if they stay up.

If they do go down they might need to reduce overheads.

He would probably be a fish out of water in the Championship.

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Hoof Hearted 15 Mar 16 11.57am
Watching them play last night against Leicester and comparing that to when we beat them 5-1, you could see an immediate improvement in their shape and defensive qualities. Under McClaren they were a bit gung ho in my opinion, having not much regard for the opposition's ability to hit them on the break. I think they will improve further and by the time we play them at the end of April they will be a tough nut to crack. Hopefully by then we should have a few more points under our belts and relatively safe... if not, then we'll have a fight on our hands.
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Hoof Hearted 15 Mar 16 11.57am

Watching them play last night against Leicester and comparing that to when we beat them 5-1, you could see an immediate improvement in their shape and defensive qualities.

Under McClaren they were a bit gung ho in my opinion, having not much regard for the opposition's ability to hit them on the break.

I think they will improve further and by the time we play them at the end of April they will be a tough nut to crack.

Hopefully by then we should have a few more points under our belts and relatively safe... if not, then we'll have a fight on our hands.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Mar 16 12.12pm
Originally posted by blind eagle Who makes a commitment when he becomes manager? It all depends on how much lolly is offered!, I'd imagine that his salary per week is fairly eye watering and unsustainable in the championship, especially on top of their current wage bill - They've got to think towards possibility of not making an immediate return and the risks of FFP punishments. There aren't really too many players they have that I'd say have 'put themselves in a good marketable position' should they be relegated. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 15 Mar 16 12.12pm

Originally posted by blind eagle

Who makes a commitment when he becomes manager? It all depends on how much lolly is offered!,

I'd imagine that his salary per week is fairly eye watering and unsustainable in the championship, especially on top of their current wage bill - They've got to think towards possibility of not making an immediate return and the risks of FFP punishments.

There aren't really too many players they have that I'd say have 'put themselves in a good marketable position' should they be relegated.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Mar 16 12.14pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Watching them play last night against Leicester and comparing that to when we beat them 5-1, you could see an immediate improvement in their shape and defensive qualities. Under McClaren they were a bit gung ho in my opinion, having not much regard for the opposition's ability to hit them on the break. I think they will improve further and by the time we play them at the end of April they will be a tough nut to crack. Hopefully by then we should have a few more points under our belts and relatively safe... if not, then we'll have a fight on our hands. We should be very aware of our position by then. Six points will assure we stay up. If we're on say 33-35 points by then we're right in it. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 15 Mar 16 12.14pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Watching them play last night against Leicester and comparing that to when we beat them 5-1, you could see an immediate improvement in their shape and defensive qualities.

Under McClaren they were a bit gung ho in my opinion, having not much regard for the opposition's ability to hit them on the break.

I think they will improve further and by the time we play them at the end of April they will be a tough nut to crack.

Hopefully by then we should have a few more points under our belts and relatively safe... if not, then we'll have a fight on our hands.

We should be very aware of our position by then. Six points will assure we stay up. If we're on say 33-35 points by then we're right in it.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Ray in Houston Houston 15 Mar 16 3.13pm
Originally posted by blind eagle Who makes a commitment when he becomes manager? It all depends on how much lolly is offered!, My understanding is that he has a massive bonus coming if he keeps them up. Easy bargain for Ashley, considering that staying up is worth about 130 million extra to his club. In his position, I'd give Rafa 10% of that without batting an eye. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by blind eagle

Who makes a commitment when he becomes manager? It all depends on how much lolly is offered!,

My understanding is that he has a massive bonus coming if he keeps them up. Easy bargain for Ashley, considering that staying up is worth about 130 million extra to his club. In his position, I'd give Rafa 10% of that without batting an eye.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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