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comeonyoueagles20 caterham 04 Aug 15 1.44pm
Quote Alexi_the_Eagle at 04 Aug 2015 1.34pm Quote comeonyoueagles20 at 04 Aug 2015 1.24pm Quote Alexi_the_Eagle at 04 Aug 2015 1.04pm Quote glaziermart at 04 Aug 2015 10.56am Strong rumours on some of the Fulham blogs that we will swap Gayle for Mitroglou, both on season long loans. I will try to find some links if I can No thanks. He was crap at Fulham after all the hype. He made 1 start and 2 brief substitute appearances , what a load of nonsense. Do you decide most players are crap after around 100 mins of football? He's a good target man who has scored goals. No I don't, actually. What I meant to say is that we can do a lot better than Mitroglou. Fair enough , I actually think he could potentially be a step up on what we already have here , although I accept he is unproven in this league , but has scored goals in the Greek superb league , champions league and international level , I rate Gayle and want to keep him , but feel maybe 40+ games in the championship will help develop his game further than , 20 mins here and there for us , and if we can get mitroglou on loan while he's gone that would leave us with him , Murray , bamford and wickham all capable of player the loan striker role , 4 good options in my opinion.
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Strong rumours on some of the Fulham blogs that we will swap Gayle for Mitroglou, both on season long loans. I will try to find some links if I can

No thanks. He was crap at Fulham after all the hype.

He made 1 start and 2 brief substitute appearances , what a load of nonsense. Do you decide most players are crap after around 100 mins of football? He's a good target man who has scored goals.

No I don't, actually. What I meant to say is that we can do a lot better than Mitroglou.

Fair enough , I actually think he could potentially be a step up on what we already have here , although I accept he is unproven in this league , but has scored goals in the Greek superb league , champions league and international level , I rate Gayle and want to keep him , but feel maybe 40+ games in the championship will help develop his game further than , 20 mins here and there for us , and if we can get mitroglou on loan while he's gone that would leave us with him , Murray , bamford and wickham all capable of player the loan striker role , 4 good options in my opinion.

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silvertop Portishead 04 Aug 15 1.48pm
No thanks. Only defenders please, especially CB.
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Portishead 04 Aug 15 1.48pm

No thanks. Only defenders please, especially CB.

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Copthorne_Eagle Copthorne, West Sussex 04 Aug 15 2.00pm
Quote Jaha at 04 Aug 2015 1.37pm Don't agree with this. Gayle Is the one striker we have who can come on in the last 20 minutes and have a heavy impact on the games score line I would argue that Liverpool (3-3) aside, Gayle has NEVER looked like the player to do this. Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute.
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Quote Jaha at 04 Aug 2015 1.37pm

Don't agree with this. Gayle Is the one striker we have who can come on in the last 20 minutes and have a heavy impact on the games score line

I would argue that Liverpool (3-3) aside, Gayle has NEVER looked like the player to do this.

Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute.

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Fazil Bawlty 04 Aug 15 2.25pm
Quote Copthorne_Eagle at 04 Aug 2015 2.00pm Quote Jaha at 04 Aug 2015 1.37pm Don't agree with this. Gayle Is the one striker we have who can come on in the last 20 minutes and have a heavy impact on the games score line I would argue that Liverpool (3-3) aside, Gayle has NEVER looked like the player to do this. Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute. Villa away too? But yes Gayle does seem to vanish from most games and struggles with the physicality of the latter stages of a PL game. I think it's time we cashed in and upgraded, but Mitroglou is not the man. Total pony.
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Quote Jaha at 04 Aug 2015 1.37pm

Don't agree with this. Gayle Is the one striker we have who can come on in the last 20 minutes and have a heavy impact on the games score line

I would argue that Liverpool (3-3) aside, Gayle has NEVER looked like the player to do this.

Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute.

Villa away too? But yes Gayle does seem to vanish from most games and struggles with the physicality of the latter stages of a PL game. I think it's time we cashed in and upgraded, but Mitroglou is not the man. Total pony.

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comeonyoueagles20 caterham 04 Aug 15 2.38pm
Quote Fazil Bawlty at 04 Aug 2015 2.25pm Quote Copthorne_Eagle at 04 Aug 2015 2.00pm Quote Jaha at 04 Aug 2015 1.37pm Don't agree with this. Gayle Is the one striker we have who can come on in the last 20 minutes and have a heavy impact on the games score line I would argue that Liverpool (3-3) aside, Gayle has NEVER looked like the player to do this. Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute. Villa away too? But yes Gayle does seem to vanish from most games and struggles with the physicality of the latter stages of a PL game. I think it's time we cashed in and upgraded, but Mitroglou is not the man. Total pony. And how have you come to the conclusion he is pony? even Fulham fans have no idea of his quality because he played so few minutes, like I said 1 start two substitute appearances , unless of course you watch the Greek super league , like I do , where he has a 1in2 record , wouldn't say that is pony. He also after Zaha looked the best player on the pitch when he came on against us on Saturday.
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Quote Jaha at 04 Aug 2015 1.37pm

Don't agree with this. Gayle Is the one striker we have who can come on in the last 20 minutes and have a heavy impact on the games score line

I would argue that Liverpool (3-3) aside, Gayle has NEVER looked like the player to do this.

Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute.

And how have you come to the conclusion he is pony? even Fulham fans have no idea of his quality because he played so few minutes, like I said 1 start two substitute appearances , unless of course you watch the Greek super league , like I do , where he has a 1in2 record , wouldn't say that is pony. He also after Zaha looked the best player on the pitch when he came on against us on Saturday.

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Jaha 04 Aug 15 3.36pm
Quote Fazil Bawlty at 04 Aug 2015 2.25pm Quote Copthorne_Eagle at 04 Aug 2015 2.00pm Quote Jaha at 04 Aug 2015 1.37pm Don't agree with this. Gayle Is the one striker we have who can come on in the last 20 minutes and have a heavy impact on the games score line I would argue that Liverpool (3-3) aside, Gayle has NEVER looked like the player to do this. Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute. Villa away too? But yes Gayle does seem to vanish from most games and struggles with the physicality of the latter stages of a PL game. I think it's time we cashed in and upgraded, but Mitroglou is not the man. Total pony. I agree that he is not the best striker we could have as an impact sub but he is the best we do have. What other striker would you suggest is the best to come on and get us a goal in the dying minutes? Glen could possibly do this but is better if given a whole game to bully defenders. Can't pass judgment on how good wickham is at this, but gayle just has the eye for goal and the pace to make an impact. He was our record signing, we spent a lot of money for him and I would argue he's been worth it, so it just seems a waste of potential to cast him aside
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Quote Fazil Bawlty at 04 Aug 2015 2.25pm

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Quote Jaha at 04 Aug 2015 1.37pm

Don't agree with this. Gayle Is the one striker we have who can come on in the last 20 minutes and have a heavy impact on the games score line

I would argue that Liverpool (3-3) aside, Gayle has NEVER looked like the player to do this.

Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute.

I agree that he is not the best striker we could have as an impact sub but he is the best we do have. What other striker would you suggest is the best to come on and get us a goal in the dying minutes? Glen could possibly do this but is better if given a whole game to bully defenders. Can't pass judgment on how good wickham is at this, but gayle just has the eye for goal and the pace to make an impact. He was our record signing, we spent a lot of money for him and I would argue he's been worth it, so it just seems a waste of potential to cast him aside

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NICK THE EAGLE Coulsdon 04 Aug 15 4.14pm
Just a thought: What about Gayle of the shoulder of Wickham and Banford in the hole? Gayle = pace Wickham = Strength Banford = playing them both in.
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Just a thought:

What about Gayle of the shoulder of Wickham and Banford in the hole?

Gayle = pace
Wickham = Strength
Banford = playing them both in.

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matthau South Croydon 04 Aug 15 4.25pm
nah, puncheon or chamakh in the hole, but agree with Gayle as the last man. but many have been saying that all along. The issue is, we'd have to play a with one less CM. not many teams do that, dont think we will either.
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South Croydon 04 Aug 15 4.25pm

nah, puncheon or chamakh in the hole, but agree with Gayle as the last man.

but many have been saying that all along. The issue is, we'd have to play a with one less CM.

not many teams do that, dont think we will either.

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Master Coin 04 Aug 15 4.36pm
I think Gayle going on a short term loan is sensible. A season-long deal would be madness though. I can see the value in him getting gametime elsewhere while we have Murray/Bamford/Wickham all available but he is the sort of player it would be useful to have back in the thick of things if injuries start creeping in later in the season.
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04 Aug 15 4.36pm

I think Gayle going on a short term loan is sensible. A season-long deal would be madness though. I can see the value in him getting gametime elsewhere while we have Murray/Bamford/Wickham all available but he is the sort of player it would be useful to have back in the thick of things if injuries start creeping in later in the season.

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blind eagle Covington.Tennessee 04 Aug 15 4.47pm
Quote glaziermart at 04 Aug 2015 10.56am Strong rumours on some of the Fulham blogs that we will swap Gayle for Mitroglou, both on season long loans. I will try to find some links if I can Don't think much of that idea. We would be better off to keep Gayle on ice and use him if necessary. Think its time for AP to get out to Beckenham and introduce his plan to the lads.
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Quote glaziermart at 04 Aug 2015 10.56am

Strong rumours on some of the Fulham blogs that we will swap Gayle for Mitroglou, both on season long loans. I will try to find some links if I can

Don't think much of that idea. We would be better off to keep Gayle on ice and use him if necessary. Think its time for AP to get out to Beckenham and introduce his plan to the lads.

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sydtheeagle England 04 Aug 15 4.50pm
Quote Copthorne_Eagle at 04 Aug 2015 2.00pm Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute. His stats quickly put paid to a myth that was essentially forged on a single night a year and a half ago against Liverpool. In the season before last, Gayle made 15 appearances off the bench and scored 4 goals (two on the aforementioned in front of the Sky cameras). He totalled 262 minutes played meaning he averaged around 17 minutes on the pitch per game. Only in two of those 15 games did he play 5 minutes or less; in other words, he invariably had time to make an impact as a sub. Last season, Gayle came off the bench 14 times playing a total of 265 minutes. This averages out to about 19 minutes per game. Again, only twice he came on for 5 minutes or less. He scored 0 goals as a sub last season. In short, in 29 subs appearances Gayle has scored 4 goals in 3 games (two of the goals coming in the one game against Liverpool). Put another way, remove that one-off night and he's scored 2 goals in 28 games as a sub for Palace. So I think we can forget the popular notion, founded entirely on one match in front of the Sky cameras, that Gayle is any kind of supersub. This is not to have a go at him. It's just to be realistic. Edited by sydtheeagle (04 Aug 2015 4.50pm) Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote Copthorne_Eagle at 04 Aug 2015 2.00pm

Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute.

His stats quickly put paid to a myth that was essentially forged on a single night a year and a half ago against Liverpool.

In the season before last, Gayle made 15 appearances off the bench and scored 4 goals (two on the aforementioned in front of the Sky cameras). He totalled 262 minutes played meaning he averaged around 17 minutes on the pitch per game. Only in two of those 15 games did he play 5 minutes or less; in other words, he invariably had time to make an impact as a sub.

Last season, Gayle came off the bench 14 times playing a total of 265 minutes. This averages out to about 19 minutes per game. Again, only twice he came on for 5 minutes or less. He scored 0 goals as a sub last season.

In short, in 29 subs appearances Gayle has scored 4 goals in 3 games (two of the goals coming in the one game against Liverpool). Put another way, remove that one-off night and he's scored 2 goals in 28 games as a sub for Palace.

So I think we can forget the popular notion, founded entirely on one match in front of the Sky cameras, that Gayle is any kind of supersub.

This is not to have a go at him. It's just to be realistic.

Edited by sydtheeagle (04 Aug 2015 4.50pm)

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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Muffer 04 Aug 15 4.55pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 04 Aug 2015 4.50pm Quote Copthorne_Eagle at 04 Aug 2015 2.00pm Infact id love to know his goalscoring stats as a substitute. His stats quickly put paid to a myth that was essentially forged on a single night a year and a half ago against Liverpool. In the season before last, Gayle made 15 appearances off the bench and scored 4 goals (two on the aforementioned in front of the Sky cameras). He totalled 262 minutes played meaning he averaged around 17 minutes on the pitch per game. Only in two of those 15 games did he play 5 minutes or less; in other words, he invariably had time to make an impact as a sub. Last season, Gayle came off the bench 14 times playing a total of 265 minutes. This averages out to about 19 minutes per game. Again, only twice he came on for 5 minutes or less. He scored 0 goals as a sub last season. In short, in 29 subs appearances Gayle has scored 4 goals in 3 games (two of the goals coming in the one game against Liverpool). Put another way, remove that one-off night and he's scored 2 goals in 28 games as a sub for Palace. So I think we can forget the popular notion, founded entirely on one match in front of the Sky cameras, that Gayle is any kind of supersub. This is not to have a go at him. It's just to be realistic. Edited by sydtheeagle (04 Aug 2015 4.50pm) He's been played out wide a lot though similar to Wickham at Sunderland.
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