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jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Apr 15 10.32am
Quote topcat at 16 Apr 2015 10.24am Quote Kermit8 at 15 Apr 2015 8.42pm Feel pretty certain is wasn't started deliberately as the rubbish underneath the stands was well known about and a dropped fag butt seems reasonable. Also, the chairman dodgy or not didn't come across as insincere or hiding something in the aftermath. I have no idea if it was deliberate or not, or hope not, but he should have been prosecuted for manslaughter anyway. Quote Methinks someone wants to sell some sensational book. He'll be on Graham Norton next. That's a bit harsh. Manslaughter requires a degree of malicious intent. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote Kermit8 at 15 Apr 2015 8.42pm

Feel pretty certain is wasn't started deliberately as the rubbish underneath the stands was well known about and a dropped fag butt seems reasonable. Also, the chairman dodgy or not didn't come across as insincere or hiding something in the aftermath.

I have no idea if it was deliberate or not, or hope not, but he should have been prosecuted for manslaughter anyway.

Quote Methinks someone wants to sell some sensational book. He'll be on Graham Norton next.

That's a bit harsh.

Manslaughter requires a degree of malicious intent.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Apr 15 10.32am
I have a feint memory of watching the horrific scenes on a TV in the "Executive Lounge" at SP. Really cannot remember who we were playing that day - It was 30 years ago and I am getting old !!!!
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South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Apr 15 10.32am

I have a feint memory of watching the horrific scenes on a TV in the "Executive Lounge" at SP. Really cannot remember who we were playing that day - It was 30 years ago and I am getting old !!!!

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Beastie 16 Apr 15 10.58am
There’s no doubt the Scousers are grief monkeys but they have had good reason to keep the Hillsborough tragedy in the publics mind. Proven by the fact that they are getting some kind of justice all these years later. Until this story, there was no reason to think there was any more than meets the eye with Valley parade - doesn’t make it any less tragic of course. When I was a kid, my Dad was a fireman and had a copy of the footage from the Valley Parade fire and let me see it for some reason. It was the most horrible thing I’d ever seen and always stayed with me.
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16 Apr 15 10.58am

There’s no doubt the Scousers are grief monkeys but they have had good reason to keep the Hillsborough tragedy in the publics mind. Proven by the fact that they are getting some kind of justice all these years later.

Until this story, there was no reason to think there was any more than meets the eye with Valley parade - doesn’t make it any less tragic of course.

When I was a kid, my Dad was a fireman and had a copy of the footage from the Valley Parade fire and let me see it for some reason. It was the most horrible thing I’d ever seen and always stayed with me.

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ciaron21 leeds 16 Apr 15 11.01am
Must for once agree with Kermit, no reason to suspect the fire was started deliberately. Mr. Hegginbotham was well known in the textile industry, fires were very frequent all around the industry. Yes I think just sensationalism . If you have ever seen a fire catch hold in a textile mill you would know how fast it runs, from one end of the building to the other in seconds jumping from the floor to the ceiling. I've seen it several times having worked for Wormalds high hazard fire protection. The fire also just about killed off Mr. Hegginbotham.
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leeds 16 Apr 15 11.01am

Must for once agree with Kermit, no reason to suspect the fire was started deliberately. Mr. Hegginbotham was well known in the textile industry, fires were very frequent all around the industry. Yes I think just sensationalism . If you have ever seen a fire catch hold in a textile mill you would know how fast it runs, from one end of the building to the other in seconds jumping from the floor to the ceiling.
I've seen it several times having worked for Wormalds high hazard fire protection. The fire also just about killed off Mr. Hegginbotham.

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Kermit8 Hevon 16 Apr 15 11.06am
Quote topcat at 16 Apr 2015 10.24am Quote Kermit8 at 15 Apr 2015 8.42pm Feel pretty certain is wasn't started deliberately as the rubbish underneath the stands was well known about and a dropped fag butt seems reasonable. Also, the chairman dodgy or not didn't come across as insincere or hiding something in the aftermath. I have no idea if it was deliberate or not, or hope not, but he should have been prosecuted for manslaughter anyway. Quote Methinks someone wants to sell some sensational book. He'll be on Graham Norton next. That's a bit harsh. You're right. I'll wind my neck in. Jonathan Ross. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote topcat at 16 Apr 2015 10.24am

Quote Kermit8 at 15 Apr 2015 8.42pm

I have no idea if it was deliberate or not, or hope not, but he should have been prosecuted for manslaughter anyway.

Quote Methinks someone wants to sell some sensational book. He'll be on Graham Norton next.

That's a bit harsh.

You're right. I'll wind my neck in.

Jonathan Ross.

Big chest and massive boobs

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bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 16 Apr 15 12.10pm
Would be interested to know how many business the chairman owned over the years. Back then fires were much more commonplace than they are now. Power cuts were frequent and candles would be lit. Can remember the Bradford fire more than any of the other disasters because of the guy who ran out of the stands on fire was truly shocking to witness.
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Carparks in South East London 16 Apr 15 12.10pm

Would be interested to know how many business the chairman owned over the years. Back then fires were much more commonplace than they are now. Power cuts were frequent and candles would be lit. Can remember the Bradford fire more than any of the other disasters because of the guy who ran out of the stands on fire was truly shocking to witness.

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lankygit Lincoln 16 Apr 15 12.22pm
Given Bradford were playing Lincoln that day, it`s not surprising I knew one or two folk who were there that day. One of my closest mates around that time was there. He was also caught up in the Summerland IOM fire a few years earlier, poor sod. I really hope it wasn`t arson. The judge who chaired the enquiry says not. [Link] Is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour? [Link]
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Lincoln 16 Apr 15 12.22pm

Given Bradford were playing Lincoln that day, it`s not surprising I knew one or two folk who were there that day.
One of my closest mates around that time was there. He was also caught up in the Summerland IOM fire a few years earlier, poor sod.
I really hope it wasn`t arson. The judge who chaired the enquiry says not.

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paperhat croydon 16 Apr 15 12.23pm
Quote Beastie at 16 Apr 2015 10.58am There’s no doubt the Scousers are grief monkeys but they have had good reason to keep the Hillsborough tragedy in the publics mind. Proven by the fact that they are getting some kind of justice all these years later. Until this story, there was no reason to think there was any more than meets the eye with Valley parade - doesn’t make it any less tragic of course. When I was a kid, my Dad was a fireman and had a copy of the footage from the Valley Parade fire and let me see it for some reason. It was the most horrible thing I’d ever seen and always stayed with me. That same video clip is still used in health and safety and fire saftey training courses to show just how quickly a disaster can unfold. Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan
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Quote Beastie at 16 Apr 2015 10.58am

Until this story, there was no reason to think there was any more than meets the eye with Valley parade - doesn’t make it any less tragic of course.

That same video clip is still used in health and safety and fire saftey training courses to show just how quickly a disaster can unfold.

Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan

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Dan1 Croydon 16 Apr 15 12.28pm
Not sure if they question has been asked but why set fire to the stand during a football match with the police and television cameras present and also potential witnesses. Surely it would have been better to set fire to the stand at night to avoid loss of life?
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Croydon 16 Apr 15 12.28pm

Not sure if they question has been asked but why set fire to the stand during a football match with the police and television cameras present and also potential witnesses. Surely it would have been better to set fire to the stand at night to avoid loss of life?

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Lyons550 Shirley 16 Apr 15 1.19pm
No smoke without fire would seem an appropriate response The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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No smoke without fire would seem an appropriate response

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Red-Blue-Yellow Surrey 16 Apr 15 1.22pm
Quote paperhat at 16 Apr 2015 12.23p That same video clip is still used in health and safety and fire saftey training courses to show just how quickly a disaster can unfold. I've seen it about five or six times in the last 20 odd years. Kinda wish I hadn't.....human candles. I also enjoy posting on: Love Everton Forum, the Acceptable Face of Scouse Football. [Link] twitter.com/LuvEvertonForum Come and give it a look, new members would be lovely. Come and JOIN. Or they'll nick your telly.
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Quote paperhat at 16 Apr 2015 12.23p

That same video clip is still used in health and safety and fire saftey training courses to show just how quickly a disaster can unfold.

I've seen it about five or six times in the last 20 odd years. Kinda wish I hadn't.....human candles.

I also enjoy posting on: Love Everton Forum, the Acceptable Face of Scouse Football.
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twitter.com/LuvEvertonForum
Come and give it a look, new members would be lovely.
Come and JOIN.
Or they'll nick your telly.

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Stuk Top half 16 Apr 15 1.47pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Apr 2015 11.06am Quote topcat at 16 Apr 2015 10.24am Quote Kermit8 at 15 Apr 2015 8.42pm Feel pretty certain is wasn't started deliberately as the rubbish underneath the stands was well known about and a dropped fag butt seems reasonable. Also, the chairman dodgy or not didn't come across as insincere or hiding something in the aftermath. I have no idea if it was deliberate or not, or hope not, but he should have been prosecuted for manslaughter anyway. Quote Methinks someone wants to sell some sensational book. He'll be on Graham Norton next. That's a bit harsh. You're right. I'll wind my neck in. Jonathan Ross. Lost his brother, father, uncle and grandfather. Somehow I don't think he's out to make a few quid or get 5 minutes of fame. Optimistic as ever
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