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maghull 05 Jul 14 1.58pm | |
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Quote Bubbs at 05 Jul 2014 10.10am
Was at that Cambridge first game too. Hinshelwood with a double pen. One of the more memorable home games that season was the 3-3 draw against Luton who won the league that year. Think it was televised too but have never seen footage of it since. The sudden drop in attendances was for a few reasons I think and certainly not to do with Alan Mullery becoming manager, as many have stated as fact in retrospect. For a start, Mullery didn't arrive until the following season. Obviously our sudden drop in quality didn't help. The unbelievably exciting Team of the 80's being torn apart and the subsequent relegation and influx of mediocre players certainly made many walk away. But the crowd reduction was not just a Palace phenomenon; it happened up and down the country outside the 1st Division. Coincided with prices starting to creep up - nothing major - but enough to make people look elsewhere especially with the early 80's recession and 3 million unemployed at that time. Another factor was the hooliganism. Think a lot of dads thought twice about taking their kids. Going to football at that time in this country was almost deemed a lower class pursuit; a game for the riff-raff. You would certainly never hear a member of the Government or a Royal openly profess to supporting a side as you do now. Football in the 80's was a totally different animal to what it was in the decades before and after, and in many ways what happened at Hillsborough in '89 was a culmination of this. It does come across as quite a paradox, but I look back on going to football then as my favourite time. Palace were mostly cr*p; trouble in the air everywhere you went; grounds and facilities in total disrepair; treated like animals by the authorities; and yet, there was something real, creative, loose and invigorating about the whole experience. There is more than a whiff of predictability and conformity about football these days.
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Kermit8 Hevon 05 Jul 14 7.02pm | |
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There was an amazing game at SP v Middlesborough around '83 when we had two men sent off within the first half hour then crazily we went 1- 0 up but managed to hang on for an hour for the victory. Crowd about 7,000 but hell we made some noise to help the team over the line.
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maghull 05 Jul 14 7.43pm | |
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jul 14 8.05pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 05 Jul 2014 7.02pm
There was an amazing game at SP v Middlesborough around '83 when we had two men sent off within the first half hour then crazily we went 1- 0 up but managed to hang on for an hour for the victory. Crowd about 7,000 but hell we made some noise to help the team over the line. I was at that game ! What a result in the circumstances.
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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 05 Jul 14 8.49pm | |
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And our away support was about 500 at most. I only missed 2 away games that season and we were lucky if there was 100 of us there for some of the games of any sort of distance, i know this because we would be thinly spread on some big old terraces and as the performances were pretty grim back then it gave us something to do counting!! It wasted all of 5 minutes Edited by monkey (04 Jul 2014 11.44pm)
I was there, that turned into a great day, as you say we hadn't won away for so long, we were both in the bottom 3 i think, it was cold, foggy, a poxy long journey, we were caged in with fences all around us and it was a s***e game, but when Lovell popped up with the winner we all went mental, we'd lost a few away games 1-0 up to then and to finally win one was a great feeling.
We were obviously on the same train then, it did turn out to be a great day, amazing what a win can do!! To be fair though, I enjoyed those early 80's years, despite the crap team, the lack of numbers and the bleak northern grounds it was good times, because we were young and keen and all that mattered was following team. The amount of games we lost 1-0 away that season was unreal though, Sheffield Wed, QPR, Norwich,Luton, Shrewsbury, Bolton, derby, Chelsea, just off the top of my head, might be a couple more!!
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Quote Kermit8 at 05 Jul 2014 7.02pm
There was an amazing game at SP v Middlesborough around '83 when we had two men sent off within the first half hour then crazily we went 1- 0 up but managed to hang on for an hour for the victory. Crowd about 7,000 but hell we made some noise to help the team over the line. I remember the game and the report the next day in the News of The World which had the headline 'The Fine Nine'.
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maghull 05 Jul 14 9.44pm | |
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And our away support was about 500 at most. I only missed 2 away games that season and we were lucky if there was 100 of us there for some of the games of any sort of distance, i know this because we would be thinly spread on some big old terraces and as the performances were pretty grim back then it gave us something to do counting!! It wasted all of 5 minutes Edited by monkey (04 Jul 2014 11.44pm)
I was there, that turned into a great day, as you say we hadn't won away for so long, we were both in the bottom 3 i think, it was cold, foggy, a poxy long journey, we were caged in with fences all around us and it was a s***e game, but when Lovell popped up with the winner we all went mental, we'd lost a few away games 1-0 up to then and to finally win one was a great feeling.
We were obviously on the same train then, it did turn out to be a great day, amazing what a win can do!! To be fair though, I enjoyed those early 80's years, despite the crap team, the lack of numbers and the bleak northern grounds it was good times, because we were young and keen and all that mattered was following team. The amount of games we lost 1-0 away that season was unreal though, Sheffield Wed, QPR, Norwich,Luton, Shrewsbury, Bolton, derby, Chelsea, just off the top of my head, might be a couple more!! Did you go Oldham that year?
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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 06 Jul 14 11.53am | |
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And our away support was about 500 at most. I only missed 2 away games that season and we were lucky if there was 100 of us there for some of the games of any sort of distance, i know this because we would be thinly spread on some big old terraces and as the performances were pretty grim back then it gave us something to do counting!! It wasted all of 5 minutes Edited by monkey (04 Jul 2014 11.44pm)
I was there, that turned into a great day, as you say we hadn't won away for so long, we were both in the bottom 3 i think, it was cold, foggy, a poxy long journey, we were caged in with fences all around us and it was a s***e game, but when Lovell popped up with the winner we all went mental, we'd lost a few away games 1-0 up to then and to finally win one was a great feeling.
We were obviously on the same train then, it did turn out to be a great day, amazing what a win can do!! To be fair though, I enjoyed those early 80's years, despite the crap team, the lack of numbers and the bleak northern grounds it was good times, because we were young and keen and all that mattered was following team. The amount of games we lost 1-0 away that season was unreal though, Sheffield Wed, QPR, Norwich,Luton, Shrewsbury, Bolton, derby, Chelsea, just off the top of my head, might be a couple more!! Did you go Oldham that year? no it was one of the two I missed, we had train tickets but missed it at Euston and as it was a special and we didn't have much spare money we couldn't get an ordinary train. your description seems to be my memory of most away games back then lol Did you do Barnsley just before xmas? another defeat, knee deep in snow and because of the snow they shut the away end and because there was only about 50 of us they chucked us in a home enclosure with their fans, as it happens they were a friendly bunch, but it could've been a bit dodgy. my 1-0 stats are a bit wrong, I've looked it up as you got me thinking about that season, the derby and Bolton games I'm thinking of were a season or 2 after and Chelsea we actually won!! the seasons all merge in together now, it was so long ago.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Jul 14 12.03pm | |
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Quote maghull at 05 Jul 2014 9.44pm
Did you go Oldham that year? I went to Oldham about 3 years ago to see the Oldham v Peterborough game. The 'Posh' won 5-0. I was in the Stand opposite the end where the stand had been demolished.I was absolutely frozen as the wind whipped in from the open end.Never been so cold at a football match.
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PalacePhotoMan Wallington 06 Jul 14 1.09pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 05 Jul 2014 7.02pm
There was an amazing game at SP v Middlesborough around '83 when we had two men sent off within the first half hour then crazily we went 1- 0 up but managed to hang on for an hour for the victory. Crowd about 7,000 but hell we made some noise to help the team over the line. I was at that game ! What a result in the circumstances. Yeah, I was there too, gate was given as a mighty 4819. I think the 2 players sent off were Kevin Mabbutt and Billy Gilbert and then Vince won a penalty and Peter Nicholas scored it. And I also think Big Mal was in charge at Boro then too.
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maghull 06 Jul 14 1.23pm | |
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And our away support was about 500 at most. I only missed 2 away games that season and we were lucky if there was 100 of us there for some of the games of any sort of distance, i know this because we would be thinly spread on some big old terraces and as the performances were pretty grim back then it gave us something to do counting!! It wasted all of 5 minutes Edited by monkey (04 Jul 2014 11.44pm)
I was there, that turned into a great day, as you say we hadn't won away for so long, we were both in the bottom 3 i think, it was cold, foggy, a poxy long journey, we were caged in with fences all around us and it was a s***e game, but when Lovell popped up with the winner we all went mental, we'd lost a few away games 1-0 up to then and to finally win one was a great feeling.
We were obviously on the same train then, it did turn out to be a great day, amazing what a win can do!! To be fair though, I enjoyed those early 80's years, despite the crap team, the lack of numbers and the bleak northern grounds it was good times, because we were young and keen and all that mattered was following team. The amount of games we lost 1-0 away that season was unreal though, Sheffield Wed, QPR, Norwich,Luton, Shrewsbury, Bolton, derby, Chelsea, just off the top of my head, might be a couple more!! Did you go Oldham that year? no it was one of the two I missed, we had train tickets but missed it at Euston and as it was a special and we didn't have much spare money we couldn't get an ordinary train. your description seems to be my memory of most away games back then lol Did you do Barnsley just before xmas? another defeat, knee deep in snow and because of the snow they shut the away end and because there was only about 50 of us they chucked us in a home enclosure with their fans, as it happens they were a friendly bunch, but it could've been a bit dodgy. my 1-0 stats are a bit wrong, I've looked it up as you got me thinking about that season, the derby and Bolton games I'm thinking of were a season or 2 after and Chelsea we actually won!! the seasons all merge in together now, it was so long ago.
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Red-Blue-Yellow Surrey 06 Jul 14 3.50pm | |
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