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fan zhiyi 07 May 14 3.28pm
Quote Bert the Head at 07 May 2014 2.41pm Quote Leiceagle at 07 May 2014 1.23pm It is a seriously fabulous piece of writing and well worth spending £1.20 for, even if you bin the rest of the paper The article was a decent enough piece and I'm grateful for the chance to read it. But the underlying context for the article was a bit cynical. It seemed to be saying that the game was rare in times obsessed by money. Which is odd from a journalist writing for a paper owned by the guy who has done more to make sport (and society generally) more obsessed with money. I didn't think it was cynical. To me he was complaining about all the cynicism around football generally and pointing out that there's plenty of reasons to just enjoy the game and forget all the rubbish that sometimes goes with it.
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07 May 14 3.28pm

Quote Bert the Head at 07 May 2014 2.41pm

Quote Leiceagle at 07 May 2014 1.23pm

It is a seriously fabulous piece of writing and well worth spending £1.20 for, even if you bin the rest of the paper

The article was a decent enough piece and I'm grateful for the chance to read it. But the underlying context for the article was a bit cynical. It seemed to be saying that the game was rare in times obsessed by money. Which is odd from a journalist writing for a paper owned by the guy who has done more to make sport (and society generally) more obsessed with money.

I didn't think it was cynical. To me he was complaining about all the cynicism around football generally and pointing out that there's plenty of reasons to just enjoy the game and forget all the rubbish that sometimes goes with it.

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Hoof Hearted 07 May 14 4.25pm
Quote paperhat at 07 May 2014 3.03pm Quote Bert the Head at 07 May 2014 2.41pm Quote Leiceagle at 07 May 2014 1.23pm It is a seriously fabulous piece of writing and well worth spending £1.20 for, even if you bin the rest of the paper The article was a decent enough piece and I'm grateful for the chance to read it. But the underlying context for the article was a bit cynical. It seemed to be saying that the game was rare in times obsessed by money. Which is odd from a journalist writing for a paper owned by the guy who has done more to make sport (and society generally) more obsessed with money. He writes for the paper, doesn't mean he shares the owners views. Bert doesn't miss an opportunity to bang his leftwing drum..........
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Hoof Hearted 07 May 14 4.25pm

Quote paperhat at 07 May 2014 3.03pm

Quote Bert the Head at 07 May 2014 2.41pm

Quote Leiceagle at 07 May 2014 1.23pm

It is a seriously fabulous piece of writing and well worth spending £1.20 for, even if you bin the rest of the paper

He writes for the paper, doesn't mean he shares the owners views.

Bert doesn't miss an opportunity to bang his leftwing drum..........

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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 07 May 14 4.56pm
Quote Bert the Head at 07 May 2014 2.41pm Quote Leiceagle at 07 May 2014 1.23pm It is a seriously fabulous piece of writing and well worth spending £1.20 for, even if you bin the rest of the paper The article was a decent enough piece and I'm grateful for the chance to read it. But the underlying context for the article was a bit cynical. It seemed to be saying that the game was rare in times obsessed by money. Which is odd from a journalist writing for a paper owned by the guy who has done more to make sport (and society generally) more obsessed with money. You may think him cynical but to me he was praising a mid table team with nothing to play for - except pride and their supporters - to fight back from 3-0 down against a top four team playing for the PL title. i don't think any club can ask for more praise than that.
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Banstead Surrey 07 May 14 4.56pm

Quote Bert the Head at 07 May 2014 2.41pm

Quote Leiceagle at 07 May 2014 1.23pm

It is a seriously fabulous piece of writing and well worth spending £1.20 for, even if you bin the rest of the paper

You may think him cynical but to me he was praising a mid table team with nothing to play for - except pride and their supporters - to fight back from 3-0 down against a top four team playing for the PL title.
i don't think any club can ask for more praise than that.

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Alex55 SM1 07 May 14 5.39pm
From there, it was undistilled craziness until the final whistle blew, moments after Victor Moses had been presented with a gilt-edged chance, but missed the ball as he swung his left boot. Palace fans erupted. '- Really? Honestly? Back in the USSR,,,you don't know how lucky you are.
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From there, it was undistilled craziness until the final whistle blew, moments after Victor Moses had been presented with a gilt-edged chance, but missed the ball as he swung his left boot. Palace fans erupted.

'- Really? Honestly? Back in the USSR,,,you don't know how lucky you are.

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Kingvagabond London 07 May 14 9.12pm
As great as it is that we've got so much great press since Monday night I just can't help but be slightly cynical about an article looking down on cynicism in football. What are the chances Matthew Syed would have written the same article had we been in the championship and blown someone else's Championship title ambitions. What if it'd just been blowing Everton's Champions League ambitions (which we did a few weeks back)? Admittedly its almost the only article I've read where the comeback isn't just an aside to 'Liverpool blow their title chances' but all the same, until Syed is prepared to write articles about Plymouth having nothing to play for and still wrecking scunthorpe's title attempt and for the Times to publish it then its all a bit redundant for me. Part of Holmesdale Radio: The Next Generation @KingvagabondHOL Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........
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As great as it is that we've got so much great press since Monday night I just can't help but be slightly cynical about an article looking down on cynicism in football. What are the chances Matthew Syed would have written the same article had we been in the championship and blown someone else's Championship title ambitions. What if it'd just been blowing Everton's Champions League ambitions (which we did a few weeks back)?

Admittedly its almost the only article I've read where the comeback isn't just an aside to 'Liverpool blow their title chances' but all the same, until Syed is prepared to write articles about Plymouth having nothing to play for and still wrecking scunthorpe's title attempt and for the Times to publish it then its all a bit redundant for me.

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Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am

He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........

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glazedallover Allier 07 May 14 9.25pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 07 May 2014 9.12pm As great as it is that we've got so much great press since Monday night I just can't help but be slightly cynical about an article looking down on cynicism in football. What are the chances Matthew Syed would have written the same article had we been in the championship and blown someone else's Championship title ambitions. What if it'd just been blowing Everton's Champions League ambitions (which we did a few weeks back)? Admittedly its almost the only article I've read where the comeback isn't just an aside to 'Liverpool blow their title chances' but all the same, until Syed is prepared to write articles about Plymouth having nothing to play for and still wrecking scunthorpe's title attempt and for the Times to publish it then its all a bit redundant for me. That's a bit tough kingvag. The focus in football journalism has always been on the upper echelon, so even if we had say prevented Leicester from winning the championship with a similar performance, it would never have seen the light of day. Unfortunately, I think he is right, and the the status quo will remain.
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Quote Kingvagabond at 07 May 2014 9.12pm

That's a bit tough kingvag. The focus in football journalism has always been on the upper echelon, so even if we had say prevented Leicester from winning the championship with a similar performance, it would never have seen the light of day.

Unfortunately, I think he is right, and the the status quo will remain.

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Percy of Peckham Eton Mess 07 May 14 9.27pm
Thank you, it's an excellent article. Saw Matthew Syed do an after dinner speech once ...I say "saw" because he started and ended with an astonishing display of table tennis prowess. Very entertaining. Denial is not just a river in Egypt!
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Thank you, it's an excellent article. Saw Matthew Syed do an after dinner speech once ...I say "saw" because he started and ended with an astonishing display of table tennis prowess. Very entertaining.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

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Kingvagabond London 07 May 14 9.29pm
Quote glazedallover at 07 May 2014 9.25pm Quote Kingvagabond at 07 May 2014 9.12pm As great as it is that we've got so much great press since Monday night I just can't help but be slightly cynical about an article looking down on cynicism in football. What are the chances Matthew Syed would have written the same article had we been in the championship and blown someone else's Championship title ambitions. What if it'd just been blowing Everton's Champions League ambitions (which we did a few weeks back)? Admittedly its almost the only article I've read where the comeback isn't just an aside to 'Liverpool blow their title chances' but all the same, until Syed is prepared to write articles about Plymouth having nothing to play for and still wrecking scunthorpe's title attempt and for the Times to publish it then its all a bit redundant for me. That's a bit tough kingvag. The focus in football journalism has always been on the upper echelon, so even if we had say prevented Leicester from winning the championship with a similar performance, it would never have seen the light of day. Unfortunately, I think he is right, and the the status quo will remain. It may be a bit harsh but it's nevertheless true. The article would never have been written if it was about anyone other than the big 5. If that's not self serving of his and the papers self interest I don't know what is? Part of Holmesdale Radio: The Next Generation @KingvagabondHOL Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........
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London 07 May 14 9.29pm

Quote glazedallover at 07 May 2014 9.25pm

Quote Kingvagabond at 07 May 2014 9.12pm

Unfortunately, I think he is right, and the the status quo will remain.

It may be a bit harsh but it's nevertheless true. The article would never have been written if it was about anyone other than the big 5. If that's not self serving of his and the papers self interest I don't know what is?

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Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am

He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........

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Hambo Crawley 07 May 14 11.59pm
I went and bought the times to read it - was worth doing so as it was a really decent piece. Not just because it praises Palace, but because it was an acceptance of the fact the league needs more than just the big teams to thrive. It's still a while until we'll get the credit for the football we play, but to read someone taking an informed and considered view of the heart shown by the team and the fans was a nice surprise at a time where the focus from most was on Liverpool's failure on the pitch. HOL Radio Lead Presenter and sampler of processed meats HOL radio - Sunday nights [Link] HOL Radio Twitter: [Tweet Link] My Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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Crawley 07 May 14 11.59pm

I went and bought the times to read it - was worth doing so as it was a really decent piece. Not just because it praises Palace, but because it was an acceptance of the fact the league needs more than just the big teams to thrive.

It's still a while until we'll get the credit for the football we play, but to read someone taking an informed and considered view of the heart shown by the team and the fans was a nice surprise at a time where the focus from most was on Liverpool's failure on the pitch.

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peterg Anerley 08 May 14 5.06pm
He deserves enormous credit for writing a piece which essentially subverts the Murdoch attitude to football. The right place at the right time
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Anerley 08 May 14 5.06pm

He deserves enormous credit for writing a piece which essentially subverts the Murdoch attitude to football.

The right place at the right time

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