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Stirlingsays 24 Apr 14 9.57pm
Quote harrymc at 24 Apr 2014 5.25pm Quote bright&wright at 24 Apr 2014 4.21pm Very well written. Someone who actually knows what he's writing about. Pity he writes for the filthiest rag going (hopefully Edward Snowden, Alan Rusbridger et al will die slow and painful deaths sometime soon). That would be the daily heil. The Guardian is the only paper prepared to stand up for freedom. If supporting Snowden and implementing his philosophy is 'freedom' you can keep it mate......It isn't in my name. In fact I'd work explicitly against it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

24 Apr 14 9.57pm

Quote harrymc at 24 Apr 2014 5.25pm

Quote bright&wright at 24 Apr 2014 4.21pm

Very well written. Someone who actually knows what he's writing about.

Pity he writes for the filthiest rag going (hopefully Edward Snowden, Alan Rusbridger et al will die slow and painful deaths sometime soon).

That would be the daily heil.
The Guardian is the only paper prepared to stand up for freedom.

If supporting Snowden and implementing his philosophy is 'freedom' you can keep it mate......It isn't in my name. In fact I'd work explicitly against it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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hcjbrooks 24 Apr 14 10.28pm
Dominic Fifield is a Croydon boy-used to work for the Croydon Advertiser. Bough his mums house into the bargain.
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24 Apr 14 10.28pm

Dominic Fifield is a Croydon boy-used to work for the Croydon Advertiser.

Bough his mums house into the bargain.

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Username Horsham 24 Apr 14 10.49pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Apr 2014 9.57pm Quote harrymc at 24 Apr 2014 5.25pm Quote bright&wright at 24 Apr 2014 4.21pm Very well written. Someone who actually knows what he's writing about. Pity he writes for the filthiest rag going (hopefully Edward Snowden, Alan Rusbridger et al will die slow and painful deaths sometime soon). That would be the daily heil. The Guardian is the only paper prepared to stand up for freedom. If supporting Snowden and implementing his philosophy is 'freedom' you can keep it mate......It isn't in my name. In fact I'd work explicitly against it. You seem very angry about this. You believe it's perfectly acceptable for the US and UK Governments to spy on whoever they want, whenever they want and without any oversight at all? Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 24 Apr 14 10.49pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Apr 2014 9.57pm

Quote harrymc at 24 Apr 2014 5.25pm

Quote bright&wright at 24 Apr 2014 4.21pm

Very well written. Someone who actually knows what he's writing about.

Pity he writes for the filthiest rag going (hopefully Edward Snowden, Alan Rusbridger et al will die slow and painful deaths sometime soon).

That would be the daily heil.
The Guardian is the only paper prepared to stand up for freedom.

If supporting Snowden and implementing his philosophy is 'freedom' you can keep it mate......It isn't in my name. In fact I'd work explicitly against it.

You seem very angry about this.

You believe it's perfectly acceptable for the US and UK Governments to spy on whoever they want, whenever they want and without any oversight at all?

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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Northbrook West Sussex 24 Apr 14 11.04pm
Much has been made of their late dart into the transfer market in January as being decisive but, of the four new players recruited on deadline day, only Dann and Ledley – both ever-presents since 1 February – have made a prolonged impact. Wayne Hennessey was bought with the future in mind, even if his presence has squeezed the best out of Julián Speroni. Tom Ince was a risk worth taking, even for a seven-figure loan fee, who made an immediate impact against West Bromwich Albion but has since lulled, a player who has not had any game-time at all since the goalless draw at Sunderland on 15 March. When you read this it makes our achievements this season and Pulis' work even more impressive. Agree with previous posters, hope no one gets too carried away next season. As much as I'm excited and wanting us to kick on, finishing 17th will suffice thanks. Help Support South London's Other Number One Streatham Ice Hockey Club [Link]
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West Sussex 24 Apr 14 11.04pm

Much has been made of their late dart into the transfer market in January as being decisive but, of the four new players recruited on deadline day, only Dann and Ledley – both ever-presents since 1 February – have made a prolonged impact. Wayne Hennessey was bought with the future in mind, even if his presence has squeezed the best out of Julián Speroni. Tom Ince was a risk worth taking, even for a seven-figure loan fee, who made an immediate impact against West Bromwich Albion but has since lulled, a player who has not had any game-time at all since the goalless draw at Sunderland on 15 March.

When you read this it makes our achievements this season and Pulis' work even more impressive. Agree with previous posters, hope no one gets too carried away next season. As much as I'm excited and wanting us to kick on, finishing 17th will suffice thanks.

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Stirlingsays 24 Apr 14 11.10pm
Quote Username at 24 Apr 2014 10.49pm Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Apr 2014 9.57pm Quote harrymc at 24 Apr 2014 5.25pm Quote bright&wright at 24 Apr 2014 4.21pm Very well written. Someone who actually knows what he's writing about. Pity he writes for the filthiest rag going (hopefully Edward Snowden, Alan Rusbridger et al will die slow and painful deaths sometime soon). That would be the daily heil. The Guardian is the only paper prepared to stand up for freedom. If supporting Snowden and implementing his philosophy is 'freedom' you can keep it mate......It isn't in my name. In fact I'd work explicitly against it. You seem very angry about this. You believe it's perfectly acceptable for the US and UK Governments to spy on whoever they want, whenever they want and without any oversight at all? The choice you present is a false one. Snowden highlights some issues......However his method of solution or protest causes much more harm and strengthens genuinely far worse administrations. Countries can spy upon who they like? Yes. No oversight at all? No.......What is done with the information they find out is important and must be documented and be subject to independent review. What Snowden did was far worse than the system he attacked. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

24 Apr 14 11.10pm

Quote Username at 24 Apr 2014 10.49pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Apr 2014 9.57pm

Quote harrymc at 24 Apr 2014 5.25pm

Quote bright&wright at 24 Apr 2014 4.21pm

Very well written. Someone who actually knows what he's writing about.

Pity he writes for the filthiest rag going (hopefully Edward Snowden, Alan Rusbridger et al will die slow and painful deaths sometime soon).

That would be the daily heil.
The Guardian is the only paper prepared to stand up for freedom.

If supporting Snowden and implementing his philosophy is 'freedom' you can keep it mate......It isn't in my name. In fact I'd work explicitly against it.

You seem very angry about this.

You believe it's perfectly acceptable for the US and UK Governments to spy on whoever they want, whenever they want and without any oversight at all?

The choice you present is a false one.

Snowden highlights some issues......However his method of solution or protest causes much more harm and strengthens genuinely far worse administrations.

Countries can spy upon who they like? Yes.

No oversight at all? No.......What is done with the information they find out is important and must be documented and be subject to independent review.

What Snowden did was far worse than the system he attacked.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 24 Apr 14 11.47pm
Having been in US Army intelligence in the 1980s I have little sympathy for either Snowden or the government. He postures as this great hero of freedom yet he took all the dosh he could while being a independent contractor during the worst of the Bush years. It was only after the Obama Administration cancelled his contract due to poor performance that he "got religion." As for the whole notion of contracting out national security, that was another one of Bush/Cheney's grand plan to line their own pockets at the expense of the people. So, they got what they paid for while the safety of the nation was contracted out to the highest bidder, namely Halliburton or one of its clones. Finally, what does anyone expect after the Patriot Act, which Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld said was absolutely necessary, was rammed through a docile Congress not once but twice? What gets me is that Tony Blair bought in to all of this. He should definitely have known better. Divorced...And LOVING it! VJRAM Rev. CPFC since Boxing Day 1989 CPFC 2-2 CFC Gregg Berhalter, US International & USMNT Head Coach Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach Trevor Francis, International PRAT
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Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 24 Apr 14 11.47pm

Having been in US Army intelligence in the 1980s I have little sympathy for either Snowden or the government. He postures as this great hero of freedom yet he took all the dosh he could while being a independent contractor during the worst of the Bush years. It was only after the Obama Administration cancelled his contract due to poor performance that he "got religion." As for the whole notion of contracting out national security, that was another one of Bush/Cheney's grand plan to line their own pockets at the expense of the people. So, they got what they paid for while the safety of the nation was contracted out to the highest bidder, namely Halliburton or one of its clones. Finally, what does anyone expect after the Patriot Act, which Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld said was absolutely necessary, was rammed through a docile Congress not once but twice? What gets me is that Tony Blair bought in to all of this. He should definitely have known better.

Divorced...And LOVING it!
VJRAM Rev.
CPFC since Boxing Day 1989 CPFC 2-2 CFC
Gregg Berhalter, US International & USMNT Head Coach
Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach
Trevor Francis, International PRAT

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Seth On a pale blue dot 25 Apr 14 12.56am
Quote bright&wright at 24 Apr 2014 4.21pm Very well written. Someone who actually knows what he's writing about. Pity he writes for the filthiest rag going (hopefully Edward Snowden, Alan Rusbridger et al will die slow and painful deaths sometime soon). Do you see what you did? "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 25 Apr 14 12.56am

Quote bright&wright at 24 Apr 2014 4.21pm

Very well written. Someone who actually knows what he's writing about.

Pity he writes for the filthiest rag going (hopefully Edward Snowden, Alan Rusbridger et al will die slow and painful deaths sometime soon).

Do you see what you did?

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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PsychoPaul 25 Apr 14 1.02am
I was reading the comments at the end of the article & saw this link, maybe we could adapt it? [Link]
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PsychoPaul

25 Apr 14 1.02am

I was reading the comments at the end of the article & saw this link, maybe we could adapt it?
[Link]

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 25 Apr 14 9.48am
What a great article, which shows no signs of pandering to the mindless support of the few clubs, which seems the easy option of the majority of our press. We have to assume the 'freedom' of the Guardian makes this possible. The I and Independent have also sported like articles about Palace. Giving air to the likes of Snowden, without prejudicial support, is the responsibility of a free press and those who abhore it need to look at their own insecurities.
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Landrindod, Wales 25 Apr 14 9.48am

What a great article, which shows no signs of pandering to the mindless support of the few clubs, which seems the easy option of the majority of our press. We have to assume the 'freedom' of the Guardian makes this possible. The I and Independent have also sported like articles about Palace. Giving air to the likes of Snowden, without prejudicial support, is the responsibility of a free press and those who abhore it need to look at their own insecurities.

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Dixie Eagle Chatham 25 Apr 14 12.39pm
It is a fantastic photo. Does anyone have a larger clearer verion of it. I'm trying to spot myself in it.
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Chatham 25 Apr 14 12.39pm

It is a fantastic photo. Does anyone have a larger clearer verion of it. I'm trying to spot myself in it.

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bright&wright 25 Apr 14 1.08pm
Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 9.48am What a great article, which shows no signs of pandering to the mindless support of the few clubs, which seems the easy option of the majority of our press. We have to assume the 'freedom' of the Guardian makes this possible. The I and Independent have also sported like articles about Palace. Giving air to the likes of Snowden, without prejudicial support, is the responsibility of a free press and those who abhore it need to look at their own insecurities. Yes because Edward Snowden did what he did solely for your benefit and mine. Not because he's a coward. A greedy, attention-seeking coward. Thse who support coward papers like the Guardian are usually Socialist wnkers who need to look at their own failings rather than try bringing everyone else down with them to their own sad, pathetic lives. But I stray off topic. Good article, sht paper. 'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.
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25 Apr 14 1.08pm

Quote adrian b at 25 Apr 2014 9.48am

Yes because Edward Snowden did what he did solely for your benefit and mine. Not because he's a coward. A greedy, attention-seeking coward.

Thse who support coward papers like the Guardian are usually Socialist w*nkers who need to look at their own failings rather than try bringing everyone else down with them to their own sad, pathetic lives.

But I stray off topic. Good article, sh*t paper.

'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 25 Apr 14 2.41pm
Blimey Wrightandbright (was a delight to say those names once)there's lots of anger there. Unless you are someone who really gains from closed press it's difficult to know from whence you come. I was pleased to be able to know about Snowden and others of his ilk, as well as in depth knowledge concerning Mr Farage. Doesn't scare me at all. I had an uncle who toured the 'work camps' in Germany in Germany and Poland during the 1940s for the Red Cross and he was so thankful when the censorship was lifted from the German press and 'ignorant' Germans were made aware of what their country had been doing. If they had known in the first place an awful war may not have transpired and the evil USSR could not have consolidated. As Hitler may have said, ignorance was bliss for him.
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Landrindod, Wales 25 Apr 14 2.41pm

Blimey Wrightandbright (was a delight to say those names once)there's lots of anger there. Unless you are someone who really gains from closed press it's difficult to know from whence you come. I was pleased to be able to know about Snowden and others of his ilk, as well as in depth knowledge concerning Mr Farage. Doesn't scare me at all. I had an uncle who toured the 'work camps' in Germany in Germany and Poland during the 1940s for the Red Cross and he was so thankful when the censorship was lifted from the German press and 'ignorant' Germans were made aware of what their country had been doing. If they had known in the first place an awful war may not have transpired and the evil USSR could not have consolidated. As Hitler may have said, ignorance was bliss for him.

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