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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 22 Apr 14 12.34pm
Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football. Inherited a team which couldn't have been performing better... If we continued to play well, it was down to DF, if we stopped playing well it would have been IH's fault. But to everyone else it looks like he has an easy job - given a team sat at the top of the league. We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha). He had very little time to strengthen the squad with less funds than any team going up. He also had no infrastructure to facilitate strengthening the squad - having to watch players with SP on youtube... We started the PL and, to be fair, had terrible luck. Penalties, red cards etc. We didn't exactly get embarrassed every game - only the Fulham game was a battering and to be fair they scored 3 goals of the season. He was honest, left us when he realised he couldn't do more, didn't try to screw us for money, didn't have a bad word to say about the club and he did take us across the line to the premiership, which was the job he came in to do. Didn't you watch Swansea, Southampton, Stoke, BRISTOL CITY.
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WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 22 Apr 14 12.34pm

Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm

Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football.

Inherited a team which couldn't have been performing better... If we continued to play well, it was down to DF, if we stopped playing well it would have been IH's fault. But to everyone else it looks like he has an easy job - given a team sat at the top of the league.

We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha).

He had very little time to strengthen the squad with less funds than any team going up. He also had no infrastructure to facilitate strengthening the squad - having to watch players with SP on youtube...

We started the PL and, to be fair, had terrible luck. Penalties, red cards etc. We didn't exactly get embarrassed every game - only the Fulham game was a battering and to be fair they scored 3 goals of the season.

He was honest, left us when he realised he couldn't do more, didn't try to screw us for money, didn't have a bad word to say about the club and he did take us across the line to the premiership, which was the job he came in to do.

Didn't you watch Swansea, Southampton, Stoke, BRISTOL CITY.

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paulose17 Sutton 22 Apr 14 12.35pm
I agree with the stupid mistakes in the Transfer Market and I agree we should give him credit for two games to get us to the Premier league, it's the bitter backbiting and also taking the job at Millwall that rankles. I just think the guy talks a good game at the right time to the right people but get's himself caught out repeating himself because he does it so often. Want a thread killed? Don't delay, special offer on two threads killed at the same time. Just contact paulose17 at the usual address.
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Sutton 22 Apr 14 12.35pm

I agree with the stupid mistakes in the Transfer Market and I agree we should give him credit for two games to get us to the Premier league, it's the bitter backbiting and also taking the job at Millwall that rankles.
I just think the guy talks a good game at the right time to the right people but get's himself caught out repeating himself because he does it so often.

Want a thread killed? Don't delay, special offer on two threads killed at the same time. Just contact paulose17 at the usual address.

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Stirlingsays 22 Apr 14 12.43pm
Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football. Inherited a team which couldn't have been performing better... If we continued to play well, it was down to DF, if we stopped playing well it would have been IH's fault. But to everyone else it looks like he has an easy job - given a team sat at the top of the league. We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha). He had very little time to strengthen the squad with less funds than any team going up. He also had no infrastructure to facilitate strengthening the squad - having to watch players with SP on youtube... We started the PL and, to be fair, had terrible luck. Penalties, red cards etc. We didn't exactly get embarrassed every game - only the Fulham game was a battering and to be fair they scored 3 goals of the season. He was honest, left us when he realised he couldn't do more, didn't try to screw us for money, didn't have a bad word to say about the club and he did take us across the line to the premiership, which was the job he came in to do. Good post. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

22 Apr 14 12.43pm

Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm

Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football.

We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha).

We started the PL and, to be fair, had terrible luck. Penalties, red cards etc. We didn't exactly get embarrassed every game - only the Fulham game was a battering and to be fair they scored 3 goals of the season.

He was honest, left us when he realised he couldn't do more, didn't try to screw us for money, didn't have a bad word to say about the club and he did take us across the line to the premiership, which was the job he came in to do.

Good post.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Proper_Gander Anerley 22 Apr 14 12.51pm
Quote Beaverwilly at 22 Apr 2014 12.29pm From a man who not long ago claimed he would be a "Palace fan for life," this below statement from that article is strange don't you think. "Now I have left Palace, it is nothing to do with me any more." Ian you would be better off keeping your mouth shut, but we all know you find that impossible. In fairness, he could just be talking about management decisions.
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Anerley 22 Apr 14 12.51pm

Quote Beaverwilly at 22 Apr 2014 12.29pm

From a man who not long ago claimed he would be a "Palace fan for life," this below statement from that article is strange don't you think.

"Now I have left Palace, it is nothing to do with me any more."

Ian you would be better off keeping your mouth shut, but we all know you find that impossible.

In fairness, he could just be talking about management decisions.

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LABoxers Wallington 22 Apr 14 12.54pm
Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football. Inherited a team which couldn't have been performing better... If we continued to play well, it was down to DF, if we stopped playing well it would have been IH's fault. But to everyone else it looks like he has an easy job - given a team sat at the top of the league. We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha). He had very little time to strengthen the squad with less funds than any team going up. He also had no infrastructure to facilitate strengthening the squad - having to watch players with SP on youtube... We started the PL and, to be fair, had terrible luck. Penalties, red cards etc. We didn't exactly get embarrassed every game - only the Fulham game was a battering and to be fair they scored 3 goals of the season. He was honest, left us when he realised he couldn't do more, didn't try to screw us for money, didn't have a bad word to say about the club and he did take us across the line to the premiership, which was the job he came in to do. Not sure David Moyes would agree with that.
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LABoxers

Wallington 22 Apr 14 12.54pm

Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm

Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football.

We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha).

Not sure David Moyes would agree with that.

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Stuart Shave Hampshire 22 Apr 14 12.56pm
Quote EastEndPalace at 22 Apr 2014 11.57am We spent 350K on Joe Ledley and 2.5 on Dann. He spent 2 Million on Kebe and 2 on Hunt. CLUELESS CLOWN. Out of his depth, which he acknowledged which makes him far from a clueless clown.
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Stuart Shave

Hampshire 22 Apr 14 12.56pm

Quote EastEndPalace at 22 Apr 2014 11.57am

We spent 350K on Joe Ledley and 2.5 on Dann. He spent 2 Million on Kebe and 2 on Hunt.

CLUELESS CLOWN.

Out of his depth, which he acknowledged which makes him far from a clueless clown.

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pstrutt Busselton, WA 22 Apr 14 12.57pm
Quote LABoxers at 22 Apr 2014 12.54pm Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football. Inherited a team which couldn't have been performing better... If we continued to play well, it was down to DF, if we stopped playing well it would have been IH's fault. But to everyone else it looks like he has an easy job - given a team sat at the top of the league. We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha). He had very little time to strengthen the squad with less funds than any team going up. He also had no infrastructure to facilitate strengthening the squad - having to watch players with SP on youtube... We started the PL and, to be fair, had terrible luck. Penalties, red cards etc. We didn't exactly get embarrassed every game - only the Fulham game was a battering and to be fair they scored 3 goals of the season. He was honest, left us when he realised he couldn't do more, didn't try to screw us for money, didn't have a bad word to say about the club and he did take us across the line to the premiership, which was the job he came in to do. Not sure David Moyes would agree with that. Or OGS! I think Holloway didn't know the market at this level and he will be better off transferring players in and out of the Millwall set up. (prison transfer.) So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.
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pstrutt

Busselton, WA 22 Apr 14 12.57pm

Quote LABoxers at 22 Apr 2014 12.54pm

Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm

Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football.

We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha).

Not sure David Moyes would agree with that.

Or OGS!

I think Holloway didn't know the market at this level and he will be better off transferring players in and out of the Millwall set up. (prison transfer.)

So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.

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silvertop Portishead 22 Apr 14 1.07pm
Quote EastEndPalace at 22 Apr 2014 12.34pm Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football. Inherited a team which couldn't have been performing better... If we continued to play well, it was down to DF, if we stopped playing well it would have been IH's fault. But to everyone else it looks like he has an easy job - given a team sat at the top of the league. We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha). He had very little time to strengthen the squad with less funds than any team going up. He also had no infrastructure to facilitate strengthening the squad - having to watch players with SP on youtube... We started the PL and, to be fair, had terrible luck. Penalties, red cards etc. We didn't exactly get embarrassed every game - only the Fulham game was a battering and to be fair they scored 3 goals of the season. He was honest, left us when he realised he couldn't do more, didn't try to screw us for money, didn't have a bad word to say about the club and he did take us across the line to the premiership, which was the job he came in to do. Didn't you watch Swansea, Southampton, Stoke, BRISTOL CITY. We fielded a sub-B team of youth players and fringers so that result meant nothing. Also, those who cite Grandin, Marange and others as purchase failures conveniently forget Chamakh, Bannan, Jerome, Mariappa and Puncheon and the fact that every team in this division [except possibly Hull] bought a whole host of players - some at huge cost - who did not perform. Further, the term "scatter gun" in relation to his purchases is highly misleading. With a couple of exceptions, every player bought ensured we had cover for every position on the field; and a sufficient number bought under incredibly stressed circumstances with a relatively tiny budget have come good. Finally, his comment about Palace being in the past etc needs to be read in the context of the obvious fact of where he currently manages! Jeez, what would you expect him to say!? On 2 points we can agree: 1 Pulis is a better manager and has unearthed better from the playing staff; and 2 Under Ollie I am pretty sure we would probably be mathematically relegated by now.
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silvertop

Portishead 22 Apr 14 1.07pm

Quote EastEndPalace at 22 Apr 2014 12.34pm

Quote jpegnall at 22 Apr 2014 12.22pm

Poor bloke - had the hardest job in football.

We went up in the playoffs and then the PL started and we were without two of our best players from the previous season (Murray and Zaha).

Didn't you watch Swansea, Southampton, Stoke, BRISTOL CITY.

We fielded a sub-B team of youth players and fringers so that result meant nothing.

Also, those who cite Grandin, Marange and others as purchase failures conveniently forget Chamakh, Bannan, Jerome, Mariappa and Puncheon and the fact that every team in this division [except possibly Hull] bought a whole host of players - some at huge cost - who did not perform.

Further, the term "scatter gun" in relation to his purchases is highly misleading. With a couple of exceptions, every player bought ensured we had cover for every position on the field; and a sufficient number bought under incredibly stressed circumstances with a relatively tiny budget have come good.

Finally, his comment about Palace being in the past etc needs to be read in the context of the obvious fact of where he currently manages! Jeez, what would you expect him to say!?

On 2 points we can agree: 1 Pulis is a better manager and has unearthed better from the playing staff; and 2 Under Ollie I am pretty sure we would probably be mathematically relegated by now.

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bodge 22 Apr 14 3.17pm
If he keeps millwall up he would have done a very good job as good a job as getting us promotion. I think he is a good manager not many could turn such poor form into play off winners and three clean sheets shows he is no mug in the tactics department good luck to him.
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bodge

22 Apr 14 3.17pm

If he keeps millwall up he would have done a very good job as good a job as getting us promotion. I think he is a good manager not many could turn such poor form into play off winners and three clean sheets shows he is no mug in the tactics department good luck to him.

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seeweedhater London 22 Apr 14 5.13pm
Also has to be noted. I.H only had keith as his right hand man Where as T.P. now has Moody,Kemp, and Francis on his staff. Which have all been good additions.
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seeweedhater

London 22 Apr 14 5.13pm

Also has to be noted.
I.H only had keith as his right hand man

Where as T.P. now has Moody,Kemp, and Francis on his staff.

Which have all been good additions.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Apr 14 5.22pm
Quote bodge at 22 Apr 2014 3.17pm If he keeps millwall up he would have done a very good job as good a job as getting us promotion. When he took over at Millwall they were 21st, played 24 games and got 22 pts. They are now 20th, played 44 games and got 44 pts so in his 20 games in charge they have picked up 22 pts.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Apr 14 5.22pm

Quote bodge at 22 Apr 2014 3.17pm

If he keeps millwall up he would have done a very good job as good a job as getting us promotion.

When he took over at Millwall they were 21st, played 24 games and got 22 pts. They are now 20th, played 44 games and got 44 pts so in his 20 games in charge they have picked up 22 pts.

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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 22 Apr 14 5.33pm
Quote seeweedhater at 22 Apr 2014 5.13pm Also has to be noted. I.H only had keith as his right hand man Where as T.P. now has Moody,Kemp, and Francis on his staff. Which have all been good additions. But TP brought them in himself bar Moody. Holloway could of brought others if he wanted.
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WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 22 Apr 14 5.33pm

Quote seeweedhater at 22 Apr 2014 5.13pm

Also has to be noted.
I.H only had keith as his right hand man

Where as T.P. now has Moody,Kemp, and Francis on his staff.

Which have all been good additions.

But TP brought them in himself bar Moody. Holloway could of brought others if he wanted.

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