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Qwijibo Bournemouth 14 Apr 14 3.52pm
Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.48pm Quote Part Time James at 14 Apr 2014 3.42pm Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.39pm A few tough games coming up which may change this a little, but here is a table showing standings when looking just at results from and including 23 of November, when Pulis took over.... 1 Chelsea 54 2 Liverpool 52 3 Man City 51 4 Everton 46 5 Arsenal 39 6 Spurs 37 7 ManU 37 8 Palace 33 9 Stoke 33 10 Newcastle 29 11 West Ham 24 12 Southampton 22 13 Hull 22 14 WBA 22 15 Norwich 21 16 Swansea 21 17 Villa 20 18 Fulham 19 19 Sunderland 18 20 Cardiff 17 Just shows what an amazing job TP has done and big thanks to IH for departing before it was too late. Were we really only on 4 points when Pulis took over? That doesn't sound right to me....I don't think Pulis has got us 33 of our 37 points. We got 3 points from Sunderland and 1 from Everton. Pulis was officially appointed on the 23rd when we beat Hull - I think he may have watched that game from the stands... Think u may be right there. Didn't he lose his first official game 1:0 to Norwich? Or have I made that up? Can't believe we've won 11 games. The other day I was trying to remember who we'd beaten but there were too many!
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Bournemouth 14 Apr 14 3.52pm

Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.48pm

Quote Part Time James at 14 Apr 2014 3.42pm

Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.39pm

A few tough games coming up which may change this a little, but here is a table showing standings when looking just at results from and including 23 of November, when Pulis took over....

1 Chelsea 54
2 Liverpool 52
3 Man City 51
4 Everton 46
5 Arsenal 39
6 Spurs 37
7 ManU 37
8 Palace 33
9 Stoke 33
10 Newcastle 29
11 West Ham 24
12 Southampton 22
13 Hull 22
14 WBA 22
15 Norwich 21
16 Swansea 21
17 Villa 20
18 Fulham 19
19 Sunderland 18
20 Cardiff 17

Just shows what an amazing job TP has done and big thanks to IH for departing before it was too late.

Were we really only on 4 points when Pulis took over? That doesn't sound right to me....I don't think Pulis has got us 33 of our 37 points.

We got 3 points from Sunderland and 1 from Everton. Pulis was officially appointed on the 23rd when we beat Hull - I think he may have watched that game from the stands...

Think u may be right there. Didn't he lose his first official game 1:0 to Norwich? Or have I made that up?

Can't believe we've won 11 games. The other day I was trying to remember who we'd beaten but there were too many!

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Part Time James 14 Apr 14 3.54pm
Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.51pm Quote Part Time James at 14 Apr 2014 3.48pm Quote Seth at 14 Apr 2014 3.46pm Think we were on 4 points when Olly left, then Millen got us a point against Everton and TP took over on November 23rd when we beat Hull away. If I'm right we were on 5 points when TP got the job, so he's won us 32 out of the current 37. Had a little look and I think the OP could be right. I think we were on 3 (from Sunderland win) then Millen got us a point against Everton and a good performance (albeit a defeat) against Arsenal and TP did indeed take us over on 4 points. Wow! Yeah I had to check a few times because I couldn't believe it, I don't remember us being that bad - it might be because we were very unlucky in some of those games and should have got points at Old Trafford and at home against Spurs... Also think a point against Arsenal wouldn't have been an unfair result, despite the fact we actually lost by 2 goals.
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Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.51pm

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Quote Seth at 14 Apr 2014 3.46pm

Think we were on 4 points when Olly left, then Millen got us a point against Everton and TP took over on November 23rd when we beat Hull away.

If I'm right we were on 5 points when TP got the job, so he's won us 32 out of the current 37.

Had a little look and I think the OP could be right. I think we were on 3 (from Sunderland win) then Millen got us a point against Everton and a good performance (albeit a defeat) against Arsenal and TP did indeed take us over on 4 points. Wow!

Yeah I had to check a few times because I couldn't believe it, I don't remember us being that bad - it might be because we were very unlucky in some of those games and should have got points at Old Trafford and at home against Spurs...

Also think a point against Arsenal wouldn't have been an unfair result, despite the fact we actually lost by 2 goals.

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Part Time James 14 Apr 14 3.56pm
Quote Qwijibo at 14 Apr 2014 3.52pm Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.48pm Quote Part Time James at 14 Apr 2014 3.42pm Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.39pm A few tough games coming up which may change this a little, but here is a table showing standings when looking just at results from and including 23 of November, when Pulis took over.... 1 Chelsea 54 2 Liverpool 52 3 Man City 51 4 Everton 46 5 Arsenal 39 6 Spurs 37 7 ManU 37 8 Palace 33 9 Stoke 33 10 Newcastle 29 11 West Ham 24 12 Southampton 22 13 Hull 22 14 WBA 22 15 Norwich 21 16 Swansea 21 17 Villa 20 18 Fulham 19 19 Sunderland 18 20 Cardiff 17 Just shows what an amazing job TP has done and big thanks to IH for departing before it was too late. Were we really only on 4 points when Pulis took over? That doesn't sound right to me....I don't think Pulis has got us 33 of our 37 points. We got 3 points from Sunderland and 1 from Everton. Pulis was officially appointed on the 23rd when we beat Hull - I think he may have watched that game from the stands... Think u may be right there. Didn't he lose his first official game 1:0 to Norwich? Or have I made that up? Can't believe we've won 11 games. The other day I was trying to remember who we'd beaten but there were too many! He did. There were probably people on here shouting "Pulis Out" after that one game as well
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14 Apr 14 3.56pm

Quote Qwijibo at 14 Apr 2014 3.52pm

Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.48pm

Quote Part Time James at 14 Apr 2014 3.42pm

Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.39pm

A few tough games coming up which may change this a little, but here is a table showing standings when looking just at results from and including 23 of November, when Pulis took over....

Just shows what an amazing job TP has done and big thanks to IH for departing before it was too late.

Were we really only on 4 points when Pulis took over? That doesn't sound right to me....I don't think Pulis has got us 33 of our 37 points.

We got 3 points from Sunderland and 1 from Everton. Pulis was officially appointed on the 23rd when we beat Hull - I think he may have watched that game from the stands...

Think u may be right there. Didn't he lose his first official game 1:0 to Norwich? Or have I made that up?

Can't believe we've won 11 games. The other day I was trying to remember who we'd beaten but there were too many!

He did. There were probably people on here shouting "Pulis Out" after that one game as well

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TomThePalaceFanatic 14 Apr 14 3.57pm
In Millen's three games in charge, we got a win against Hull, a draw against Everton and lost to Arsenal. We had 7 points when Pulis took over.
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In Millen's three games in charge, we got a win against Hull, a draw against Everton and lost to Arsenal. We had 7 points when Pulis took over.

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Booted Eagle Bristol 14 Apr 14 3.58pm
Interesting table. On 3 Nov we were bottom with 3 points from 10 games, 11 points behind Hull and 10 from WBA. Now 1 point ahead Hull, 4 above WBA. Huge turn around since Ollie fell on his sword. Luckily for Soton they had a great start as they could well of been in the mire now. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Bristol 14 Apr 14 3.58pm

Interesting table. On 3 Nov we were bottom with 3 points from 10 games, 11 points behind Hull and 10 from WBA. Now 1 point ahead Hull, 4 above WBA. Huge turn around since Ollie fell on his sword.

Luckily for Soton they had a great start as they could well of been in the mire now.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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jpegnall Surrey 14 Apr 14 3.58pm
So giving KM the credit for the Hull game, changed table is below 1 Chelsea 51 2 Liverpool 51 3 Man City 48 4 Everton 45 5 Arsenal 36 6 Spurs 37 7 ManU 36 8 Palace 30 9 Stoke 30 10 Newcastle 26 11 West Ham 24 12 Southampton 22 13 Hull 22 14 WBA 22 15 Norwich 21 16 Villa 20 17 Swansea 18 18 Fulham 19 19 Sunderland 18 20 Cardiff 16
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Surrey 14 Apr 14 3.58pm

So giving KM the credit for the Hull game, changed table is below

1 Chelsea 51
2 Liverpool 51
3 Man City 48
4 Everton 45
5 Arsenal 36
6 Spurs 37
7 ManU 36
8 Palace 30
9 Stoke 30
10 Newcastle 26
11 West Ham 24
12 Southampton 22
13 Hull 22
14 WBA 22
15 Norwich 21
16 Villa 20
17 Swansea 18
18 Fulham 19
19 Sunderland 18
20 Cardiff 16

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Apr 14 3.59pm
Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.51pm Quote Part Time James at 14 Apr 2014 3.48pm Quote Seth at 14 Apr 2014 3.46pm Think we were on 4 points when Olly left, then Millen got us a point against Everton and TP took over on November 23rd when we beat Hull away. If I'm right we were on 5 points when TP got the job, so he's won us 32 out of the current 37. Had a little look and I think the OP could be right. I think we were on 3 (from Sunderland win) then Millen got us a point against Everton and a good performance (albeit a defeat) against Arsenal and TP did indeed take us over on 4 points. Wow! Yeah I had to check a few times because I couldn't believe it, I don't remember us being that bad - it might be because we were very unlucky in some of those games and should have got points at Old Trafford and at home against Spurs... I dunno about the Spurs one as Lennon was dribbling within 4 yards of goal and Defoe missed his individually created chance by 6 inches. Soldado missed a few chances as well. They got a pen but they would've beaten us that day anyway. The KG sending off didn't help at Old Trafford but us having 11 on the pitch for the full 90 would've just given us a chance of something, not 'should've got points at Old Trafford.' Jedi's passing was poor that day and if Gayle had scored to make it 0-1 to us, it would only have given us a better chance of something by hanging on when stretched and tired with constant pressure and Ashley Young's antics. We were not good enough to stay competitive for THE FULL 90 mins away from home vs the better sides. And at home we kept making too many changes and thinking we should get something at home rather than staying hard to beat and always with a chance to sneak 3 points with some good fortune. KM & TP luckily saw things the same way because every single 3 points or draw for 1 point are precious this season. COYP
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Caterham 14 Apr 14 3.59pm

Quote jpegnall at 14 Apr 2014 3.51pm

Quote Part Time James at 14 Apr 2014 3.48pm

Quote Seth at 14 Apr 2014 3.46pm

Think we were on 4 points when Olly left, then Millen got us a point against Everton and TP took over on November 23rd when we beat Hull away.

If I'm right we were on 5 points when TP got the job, so he's won us 32 out of the current 37.

I dunno about the Spurs one as Lennon was dribbling within 4 yards of goal and Defoe missed his individually created chance by 6 inches. Soldado missed a few chances as well. They got a pen but they would've beaten us that day anyway.

The KG sending off didn't help at Old Trafford but us having 11 on the pitch for the full 90 would've just given us a chance of something, not 'should've got points at Old Trafford.' Jedi's passing was poor that day and if Gayle had scored to make it 0-1 to us, it would only have given us a better chance of something by hanging on when stretched and tired with constant pressure and Ashley Young's antics.

We were not good enough to stay competitive for THE FULL 90 mins away from home vs the better sides. And at home we kept making too many changes and thinking we should get something at home rather than staying hard to beat and always with a chance to sneak 3 points with some good fortune. KM & TP luckily saw things the same way because every single 3 points or draw for 1 point are precious this season.

COYP

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Part Time James 14 Apr 14 4.02pm
Quote TomThePalaceFanatic at 14 Apr 2014 3.57pm In Millen's three games in charge, we got a win against Hull, a draw against Everton and lost to Arsenal. We had 7 points when Pulis took over. We played against West Brom in between the Arsenal and Everton games. We lost that. I think KM had four games in charge, the final one with TP in the stands ready to take over for the next game.
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Quote TomThePalaceFanatic at 14 Apr 2014 3.57pm

In Millen's three games in charge, we got a win against Hull, a draw against Everton and lost to Arsenal. We had 7 points when Pulis took over.

We played against West Brom in between the Arsenal and Everton games. We lost that. I think KM had four games in charge, the final one with TP in the stands ready to take over for the next game.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Apr 14 4.07pm
When all are fully fit we are not far off being a mid-table side for the duration of a season. I'll be even more confident of that with more of a regular goal scoring striker. The danger is that there's a greasy pole from mid-table down to relegation that any team is in danger of sliding down without millions to spend in January to dig themselves out. A few injuries or suspensions, a cup run and God forbid losing a manager who is so crucial to it all delivering and it can fall apart very very quickly. Nobody would've thought Brum City would've been relegated with their side but a League Cup trophy and 3 injuried at CB and def mid and down they went, and they won't come back for a while. And then there is the expectancy you get with getting better and better. At some point you hit your ceiling and then fans start demanding certain things and you go the way of Charlton. Lots of these 'fans' will f* off if it fails even more after demanding things beyond what is sensibly achievable. COYP**
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Caterham 14 Apr 14 4.07pm

When all are fully fit we are not far off being a mid-table side for the duration of a season. I'll be even more confident of that with more of a regular goal scoring striker.

The danger is that there's a greasy pole from mid-table down to relegation that any team is in danger of sliding down without millions to spend in January to dig themselves out.

A few injuries or suspensions, a cup run and God forbid losing a manager who is so crucial to it all delivering and it can fall apart very very quickly. Nobody would've thought Brum City would've been relegated with their side but a League Cup trophy and 3 injuried at CB and def mid and down they went, and they won't come back for a while.

And then there is the expectancy you get with getting better and better. At some point you hit your ceiling and then fans start demanding certain things and you go the way of Charlton. Lots of these 'fans' will f*** off if it fails even more after demanding things beyond what is sensibly achievable.

COYP

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 14 Apr 14 4.28pm
To be fair to KM, when TP took over on the 23rd Nov those three points were not under his charge as he was appointed just before the game so had no input, that was all down too KM along with the point against Everton.
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Sg Bilko

Deurne Holland 14 Apr 14 4.28pm

To be fair to KM, when TP took over on the 23rd Nov those three points were not under his charge as he was appointed just before the game so had no input, that was all down too KM along with the point against Everton.

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Stevo H Cuddington 14 Apr 14 4.28pm
And over this same period, we have a zero goal difference; scored 18, conceded 18 - only Chelsea and Everton have conceded fewer! Amazing turnaround. Rollercoaster ride - never a dull moment with the Palace!
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Cuddington 14 Apr 14 4.28pm

And over this same period, we have a zero goal difference; scored 18, conceded 18 - only Chelsea and Everton have conceded fewer! Amazing turnaround.

Rollercoaster ride - never a dull moment with the Palace!

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 14 Apr 14 4.31pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 14 Apr 2014 4.07pm When all are fully fit we are not far off being a mid-table side for the duration of a season. I'll be even more confident of that with more of a regular goal scoring striker. The danger is that there's a greasy pole from mid-table down to relegation that any team is in danger of sliding down without millions to spend in January to dig themselves out. A few injuries or suspensions, a cup run and God forbid losing a manager who is so crucial to it all delivering and it can fall apart very very quickly. Nobody would've thought Brum City would've been relegated with their side but a League Cup trophy and 3 injuried at CB and def mid and down they went, and they won't come back for a while. And then there is the expectancy you get with getting better and better. At some point you hit your ceiling and then fans start demanding certain things and you go the way of Charlton. Lots of these 'fans' will f*** off if it fails even more after demanding things beyond what is sensibly achievable. Plus the fallout from a hugh financial meltdown.
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Deurne Holland 14 Apr 14 4.31pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 14 Apr 2014 4.07pm

When all are fully fit we are not far off being a mid-table side for the duration of a season. I'll be even more confident of that with more of a regular goal scoring striker.

The danger is that there's a greasy pole from mid-table down to relegation that any team is in danger of sliding down without millions to spend in January to dig themselves out.

Plus the fallout from a hugh financial meltdown.

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