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tonypeers5 Wallington 13 Apr 14 8.47am
Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am Wasn't having his best game today before he was subbed off, but there have been times when he's been fantastic. Plus Jedinak always seems to play a bit better when KG is next to him, which is always a bonus. I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better. It's Red and Blue that unites us
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Wallington 13 Apr 14 8.47am

Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am

Wasn't having his best game today before he was subbed off, but there have been times when he's been fantastic. Plus Jedinak always seems to play a bit better when KG is next to him, which is always a bonus.

I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better.

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Lyons550 Shirley 13 Apr 14 10.18am
Quote adrian b at 12 Apr 2014 11.54pm There are many on this site, who state Kg's place in the side is based soley as being part of a system. Kg was injured early doors today and the team just was not firing right. After he was subbed Palace did not revert to another style and so were still unable to play coherently. But once TP had got the message over to alter the way they were playing, with Chamakh pushing up and the wingers and full-backs breaking without holding back, then Palace seemed to click. This surely shows kg's place as a systems man and the advantage of not having him the side, so as to allow Palace to use their attacking strengths confidently. The futures bright. Ironically the playing style was changed to the same one that we played against Chelski and Cardiff, in that the other DF (in this case Ledley) was played slightly higher creating angles in between the lines. The reason we were bereft of ideas up until then may well have been due to KG's injury in this instance...but until then he was simply too deep. When Ledley got in there we looked far more adventurous and the passing improved. Perhaps KG pulled his hamstring with one of the few woeful balls he hit in the first 15mins? The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Quote adrian b at 12 Apr 2014 11.54pm

There are many on this site, who state Kg's place in the side is based soley as being part of a system. Kg was injured early doors today and the team just was not firing right. After he was subbed Palace did not revert to another style and so were still unable to play coherently. But once TP had got the message over to alter the way they were playing, with Chamakh pushing up and the wingers and full-backs breaking without holding back, then Palace seemed to click.
This surely shows kg's place as a systems man and the advantage of not having him the side, so as to allow Palace to use their attacking strengths confidently. The futures bright.

Ironically the playing style was changed to the same one that we played against Chelski and Cardiff, in that the other DF (in this case Ledley) was played slightly higher creating angles in between the lines. The reason we were bereft of ideas up until then may well have been due to KG's injury in this instance...but until then he was simply too deep. When Ledley got in there we looked far more adventurous and the passing improved. Perhaps KG pulled his hamstring with one of the few woeful balls he hit in the first 15mins?

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Eagleder1 13 Apr 14 10.37am
Well i will probably be slagged of by most and the well informed on this site however here goes. I disagree with those who slag off KG, I think he plays an important role and generally does it well. Every team needs a holding midfielder who stops and breaks up play, he does that, his mobility could be better but there are parts of all the players game that could be improved that is why they are playing for Palace and not higher clubs. for God sake get off his back and support him. GM has been out for a year and is not exactly setting the world on fire but he is not continually bashed when he doesn't score and that is right so applaude KG for what he does.
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13 Apr 14 10.37am

Well i will probably be slagged of by most and the well informed on this site however here goes. I disagree with those who slag off KG, I think he plays an important role and generally does it well. Every team needs a holding midfielder who stops and breaks up play, he does that, his mobility could be better but there are parts of all the players game that could be improved that is why they are playing for Palace and not higher clubs. for God sake get off his back and support him. GM has been out for a year and is not exactly setting the world on fire but he is not continually bashed when he doesn't score and that is right so applaude KG for what he does.

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Plane Bromley 13 Apr 14 11.17am
Quote Eagleder1 at 13 Apr 2014 10.37am Well i will probably be slagged of by most and the well informed on this site however here goes. I disagree with those who slag off KG, I think he plays an important role and generally does it well. Every team needs a holding midfielder who stops and breaks up play, he does that, his mobility could be better but there are parts of all the players game that could be improved that is why they are playing for Palace and not higher clubs. for God sake get off his back and support him. GM has been out for a year and is not exactly setting the world on fire but he is not continually bashed when he doesn't score and that is right so applaude KG for what he does. You have just encapsulated my view perfectly. Well it's less boring than saying; This ^^^
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Plane

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Quote Eagleder1 at 13 Apr 2014 10.37am

You have just encapsulated my view perfectly. Well it's less boring than saying; This ^^^

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joe_cpfc Basingstoke 13 Apr 14 12.00pm
Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am Wasn't having his best game today before he was subbed off, but there have been times when he's been fantastic. Plus Jedinak always seems to play a bit better when KG is next to him, which is always a bonus. I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better. Yeah same.I think all this "Jedinak plays better with him in team" and "you only realise how good he is when he's not there" rubbish is all a bit of a myth now.Not slating him because he's actually looked a lot better the last few games but we definitely didn't miss him yesterday.
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joe_cpfc

Basingstoke 13 Apr 14 12.00pm

Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am

Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am

I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better.

Yeah same.I think all this "Jedinak plays better with him in team" and "you only realise how good he is when he's not there" rubbish is all a bit of a myth now.Not slating him because he's actually looked a lot better the last few games but we definitely didn't miss him yesterday.

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blind eagle Covington.Tennessee 13 Apr 14 2.42pm
Quote adrian b at 12 Apr 2014 11.54pm There are many on this site, who state Kg's place in the side is based soley as being part of a system. Kg was injured early doors today and the team just was not firing right. After he was subbed Palace did not revert to another style and so were still unable to play coherently. But once TP had got the message over to alter the way they were playing, with Chamakh pushing up and the wingers and full-backs breaking without holding back, then Palace seemed to click. This surely shows kg's place as a systems man and the advantage of not having him the side, so as to allow Palace to use their attacking strengths confidently. The futures bright. While I think KG has a lot to offer I do sometimes wonder if he can read a game,whether he realizes that he tends to drift too deep and whether he has something in mind when he passes the ball. I don't say all these negatives become apparent at the same time but on reflection they do lead me to question his overall ability.
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blind eagle

Covington.Tennessee 13 Apr 14 2.42pm

Quote adrian b at 12 Apr 2014 11.54pm

While I think KG has a lot to offer I do sometimes wonder if he can read a game,whether he realizes that he tends to drift too deep and whether he has something in mind when he passes the ball. I don't say all these negatives become apparent at the same time but on reflection they do lead me to question his overall ability.

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EagleLegend97 London 13 Apr 14 4.30pm
Quote joe_cpfc at 13 Apr 2014 12.00pm Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am Wasn't having his best game today before he was subbed off, but there have been times when he's been fantastic. Plus Jedinak always seems to play a bit better when KG is next to him, which is always a bonus. I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better. Yeah same.I think all this "Jedinak plays better with him in team" and "you only realise how good he is when he's not there" rubbish is all a bit of a myth now.Not slating him because he's actually looked a lot better the last few games but we definitely didn't miss him yesterday. We didn't miss him yesterday, but if he hadn't been here for the whole season, I think we would have missed him. Look at it this way, we've all hailed Tony Pulis for what he's done here, and if he continues to pick KG, then I have total faith in him, as he wouldn't be picked if he wasn't doing something right. Also been reported that lots of clubs (some better than us) are interested in him. Don't get me wrong, he's by no means our best player, and didn't play particularly well for the 10 minutes he was on the pitch yesterday, but personally i think he is an important player for the team.
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EagleLegend97

London 13 Apr 14 4.30pm

Quote joe_cpfc at 13 Apr 2014 12.00pm

Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am

Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am

I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better.

We didn't miss him yesterday, but if he hadn't been here for the whole season, I think we would have missed him. Look at it this way, we've all hailed Tony Pulis for what he's done here, and if he continues to pick KG, then I have total faith in him, as he wouldn't be picked if he wasn't doing something right. Also been reported that lots of clubs (some better than us) are interested in him.

Don't get me wrong, he's by no means our best player, and didn't play particularly well for the 10 minutes he was on the pitch yesterday, but personally i think he is an important player for the team.

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 13 Apr 14 4.46pm
Quote joe_cpfc at 13 Apr 2014 12.00pm Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am Wasn't having his best game today before he was subbed off, but there have been times when he's been fantastic. Plus Jedinak always seems to play a bit better when KG is next to him, which is always a bonus. I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better. Yeah same.I think all this "Jedinak plays better with him in team" and "you only realise how good he is when he's not there" rubbish is all a bit of a myth now.Not slating him because he's actually looked a lot better the last few games but we definitely didn't miss him yesterday. Not at all, we were very disjointed after KG went off, until we settled into the new system, plus we definitely looked more solid at the back with him there.
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Deurne Holland 13 Apr 14 4.46pm

Quote joe_cpfc at 13 Apr 2014 12.00pm

Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am

Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am

I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better.

Yeah same.I think all this "Jedinak plays better with him in team" and "you only realise how good he is when he's not there" rubbish is all a bit of a myth now.Not slating him because he's actually looked a lot better the last few games but we definitely didn't miss him yesterday.

Not at all, we were very disjointed after KG went off, until we settled into the new system, plus we definitely looked more solid at the back with him there.

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 13 Apr 14 4.51pm
Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 4.30pm Quote joe_cpfc at 13 Apr 2014 12.00pm Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am Wasn't having his best game today before he was subbed off, but there have been times when he's been fantastic. Plus Jedinak always seems to play a bit better when KG is next to him, which is always a bonus. I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better. Yeah same.I think all this "Jedinak plays better with him in team" and "you only realise how good he is when he's not there" rubbish is all a bit of a myth now.Not slating him because he's actually looked a lot better the last few games but we definitely didn't miss him yesterday. We didn't miss him yesterday, but if he hadn't been here for the whole season, I think we would have missed him. Look at it this way, we've all hailed Tony Pulis for what he's done here, and if he continues to pick KG, then I have total faith in him, as he wouldn't be picked if he wasn't doing something right. Also been reported that lots of clubs (some better than us) are interested in him. Don't get me wrong, he's by no means our best player, and didn't play particularly well for the 10 minutes he was on the pitch yesterday, but personally i think he is an important player for the team. Yes we did, he went off after 18mins, it took us until about the 30-35mins to settle down and reorganize ourselves, from then on we took over.
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Sg Bilko

Deurne Holland 13 Apr 14 4.51pm

Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 4.30pm

Quote joe_cpfc at 13 Apr 2014 12.00pm

Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am

Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am

I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better.

We didn't miss him yesterday, but if he hadn't been here for the whole season, I think we would have missed him. Look at it this way, we've all hailed Tony Pulis for what he's done here, and if he continues to pick KG, then I have total faith in him, as he wouldn't be picked if he wasn't doing something right. Also been reported that lots of clubs (some better than us) are interested in him.

Yes we did, he went off after 18mins, it took us until about the 30-35mins to settle down and reorganize ourselves, from then on we took over.

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EagleLegend97 London 13 Apr 14 5.06pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 13 Apr 2014 4.51pm Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 4.30pm Quote joe_cpfc at 13 Apr 2014 12.00pm Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am Wasn't having his best game today before he was subbed off, but there have been times when he's been fantastic. Plus Jedinak always seems to play a bit better when KG is next to him, which is always a bonus. I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better. Yeah same.I think all this "Jedinak plays better with him in team" and "you only realise how good he is when he's not there" rubbish is all a bit of a myth now.Not slating him because he's actually looked a lot better the last few games but we definitely didn't miss him yesterday. We didn't miss him yesterday, but if he hadn't been here for the whole season, I think we would have missed him. Look at it this way, we've all hailed Tony Pulis for what he's done here, and if he continues to pick KG, then I have total faith in him, as he wouldn't be picked if he wasn't doing something right. Also been reported that lots of clubs (some better than us) are interested in him. Don't get me wrong, he's by no means our best player, and didn't play particularly well for the 10 minutes he was on the pitch yesterday, but personally i think he is an important player for the team. Yes we did, he went off after 18mins, it took us until about the 30-35mins to settle down and reorganize ourselves, from then on we took over. I meant we didn't miss him as we still went on to win the game, but I agree, after he went off we looked a bit more vulnerable in midfield when they had the ball, but that was probably down to Chamakh being a more attacking player.
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London 13 Apr 14 5.06pm

Quote Sg Bilko at 13 Apr 2014 4.51pm

Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 4.30pm

Quote joe_cpfc at 13 Apr 2014 12.00pm

Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am

Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am

I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better.

Yes we did, he went off after 18mins, it took us until about the 30-35mins to settle down and reorganize ourselves, from then on we took over.

I meant we didn't miss him as we still went on to win the game, but I agree, after he went off we looked a bit more vulnerable in midfield when they had the ball, but that was probably down to Chamakh being a more attacking player.

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Noz North Hampshire 13 Apr 14 6.21pm
I was watching the line during this incident. Chamakh was doing his final warm up and was called to the dugout, before there was any indication of KG being injured. Alex Manos ran out and gestured to KG to go to the ground. Which he duly did. Then he was subbed. Maybe I misinterpreted what happened, but this is what it looked like to me. Tactical change, under the illusionary auspices of an injury? Or plain chaos theory on my account? The Truth is out there.
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North Hampshire 13 Apr 14 6.21pm

I was watching the line during this incident. Chamakh was doing his final warm up and was called to the dugout, before there was any indication of KG being injured.

Alex Manos ran out and gestured to KG to go to the ground. Which he duly did. Then he was subbed.

Maybe I misinterpreted what happened, but this is what it looked like to me.

Tactical change, under the illusionary auspices of an injury? Or plain chaos theory on my account?

The Truth is out there.

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Lyons550 Shirley 13 Apr 14 6.42pm
Quote Eagleder1 at 13 Apr 2014 10.37am Well i will probably be slagged of by most and the well informed on this site however here goes. I disagree with those who slag off KG, I think he plays an important role and generally does it well. Every team needs a holding midfielder who stops and breaks up play, he does that, his mobility could be better but there are parts of all the players game that could be improved that is why they are playing for Palace and not higher clubs. for God sake get off his back and support him. GM has been out for a year and is not exactly setting the world on fire but he is not continually bashed when he doesn't score and that is right so applaude KG for what he does. To be fair his 'weaknesses' have not changed for the 2 years he's been here! The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 13 Apr 14 6.42pm

Quote Eagleder1 at 13 Apr 2014 10.37am

Well i will probably be slagged of by most and the well informed on this site however here goes. I disagree with those who slag off KG, I think he plays an important role and generally does it well. Every team needs a holding midfielder who stops and breaks up play, he does that, his mobility could be better but there are parts of all the players game that could be improved that is why they are playing for Palace and not higher clubs. for God sake get off his back and support him. GM has been out for a year and is not exactly setting the world on fire but he is not continually bashed when he doesn't score and that is right so applaude KG for what he does.

To be fair his 'weaknesses' have not changed for the 2 years he's been here!

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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