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thebob Tatebayashi (from Croydon) 05 Apr 14 12.24pm | |
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Don't look back.. look forward. We have huge potential, lets hope we realise it.
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c_block_shedevil London 05 Apr 14 12.38pm | |
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Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Derby, Leicester, Ipswich, Bolton, Blackburn and Birmingham
Hmm I'd argue that we are of similar size to Bolton, if not we are bigger. They haven't done anything since the 50s.
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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 05 Apr 14 12.42pm | |
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Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Derby, Leicester, Ipswich, Bolton, Blackburn and Birmingham
Hmm I'd argue that we are of similar size to Bolton, if not we are bigger. They haven't done anything since the 50s.
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RainhamEagle Bermondsey 05 Apr 14 12.42pm | |
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Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Derby, Leicester, Ipswich, Bolton, Blackburn and Birmingham
Hmm I'd argue that we are of similar size to Bolton, if not we are bigger. They haven't done anything since the 50s.
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TheLastDodo Rye 05 Apr 14 12.44pm | |
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If it's judged in the past then they're all bigger than us.
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est1905 05 Apr 14 12.46pm | |
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Quote RainhamEagle at 05 Apr 2014 1.30am
Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Derby, Leicester, Ipswich, Bolton, Blackburn and Birmingham All mentioned are either big city clubs or have absolutely no competition for fans within a 50 mile radius. This does not make them necessarily a bigger club. Wednesday are bigger because they have a bigger stadium, bigger gates than us (even in the Championship) and have spent longer in the top division in recent years. Forest are because of their gates and the trophies they have won. They were actually a similar sized if not smaller club than us before Clough arrived there.
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RainhamEagle Bermondsey 05 Apr 14 12.55pm | |
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Quote est1905 at 05 Apr 2014 12.46pm
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Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Derby, Leicester, Ipswich, Bolton, Blackburn and Birmingham All mentioned are either big city clubs or have absolutely no competition for fans within a 50 mile radius. This does not make them necessarily a bigger club. Wednesday are bigger because they have a bigger stadium, bigger gates than us (even in the Championship) and have spent longer in the top division in recent years. Forest are because of their gates and the trophies they have won. They were actually a similar sized if not smaller club than us before Clough arrived there.
How do Birmingham not have/little competition for fans? Do you know where they're based? And the clubs around them? All of the clubs I mentioned are big/decent sized clubs. The only team I listed that you could question would be Birmingham, if we're being realistic. People on here are completely unaware/underestimate Bolton's history and size, as I said, they're similar to Preston, who are also a big club. Obviously fans of clubs are going to delude themselves a tad, but we aren't as big as some of us think. On the outside, we are no bigger nor smaller than your Charlton's, QPR's and Norwich's. There atleast 20 teams in the football league that are atleast as big as we are. Not that it matters though as at present we are where they all want to be.
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sydtheeagle England 05 Apr 14 12.57pm | |
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Quote RainhamEagle at 05 Apr 2014 1.30am
Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Derby, Leicester, Ipswich, Bolton, Blackburn and Birmingham
In light of the above rule: Sheffield Wednesday = not big. They haven't been relevant for decades. Their bigness was extended by Hillsborough being an FA Cup Semi Final ground but even that's no longer so. Now, average team with big (and empty) stadium. Nottingham Forest = now clinging on to the last vestiges of the bigness they achieved under Clough. They have about another 5 years left to go back up and re-establish themselves or they will become another Wednesday...a big club at a low level but not a big club. Leeds = have a touch of the Man Utds about them; fundamentally big so it will take (or is taking) a little longer for their bigness to wear off. By far the biggest of the teams in your list. Derby = See Sheffield Wednesday. Weren't really ever big in the first place. Leicester = See Derby. Ipswich = See Leicester. Bolton = Haven't been big since the 50s. Even in their Premiership years, they weren't big. It's over half a century since they've been anything but an average team. Birmingham = See most of the above. Blackburn = I think a lot of their bigness comes from the Jack Walker years rather than from history. Still, they became big and are just about still are because that was only a decade or so ago. Give Venky's a couple more years and they'll be back where they came from in the 80s. So, to me of the teams you mention, only Leeds are really "big". The rest are what I would call, like Palace, "big small teams", not "big big teams". The funniest thing is deluded Bolton-type supporters who are given to pretending their team is further upmarket than it is.
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blind eagle Covington.Tennessee 05 Apr 14 1.06pm | |
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somebody forgot yeovil!.
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TheLastDodo Rye 05 Apr 14 1.09pm | |
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Quote blind eagle at 05 Apr 2014 1.06pm
somebody forgot yeovil!.
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blind eagle Covington.Tennessee 05 Apr 14 1.09pm | |
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Quote sydtheeagle at 05 Apr 2014 12.57pm
Quote RainhamEagle at 05 Apr 2014 1.30am
Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Derby, Leicester, Ipswich, Bolton, Blackburn and Birmingham
In light of the above rule: Sheffield Wednesday = not big. They haven't been relevant for decades. Their bigness was extended by Hillsborough being an FA Cup Semi Final ground but even that's no longer so. Now, average team with big (and empty) stadium. Nottingham Forest = now clinging on to the last vestiges of the bigness they achieved under Clough. They have about another 5 years left to go back up and re-establish themselves or they will become another Wednesday...a big club at a low level but not a big club. Leeds = have a touch of the Man Utds about them; fundamentally big so it will take (or is taking) a little longer for their bigness to wear off. By far the biggest of the teams in your list. Derby = See Sheffield Wednesday. Weren't really ever big in the first place. Leicester = See Derby. Ipswich = See Leicester. Bolton = Haven't been big since the 50s. Even in their Premiership years, they weren't big. It's over half a century since they've been anything but an average team. Birmingham = See most of the above. Blackburn = I think a lot of their bigness comes from the Jack Walker years rather than from history. Still, they became big and are just about still are because that was only a decade or so ago. Give Venky's a couple more years and they'll be back where they came from in the 80s. So, to me of the teams you mention, only Leeds are really "big". The rest are what I would call, like Palace, "big small teams", not "big big teams". The funniest thing is deluded Bolton-type supporters who are given to pretending their team is further upmarket than it is.
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RainhamEagle Bermondsey 05 Apr 14 1.10pm | |
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Quote sydtheeagle at 05 Apr 2014 12.57pm
Quote RainhamEagle at 05 Apr 2014 1.30am
Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Derby, Leicester, Ipswich, Bolton, Blackburn and Birmingham
In light of the above rule: Sheffield Wednesday = not big. They haven't been relevant for decades. Their bigness was extended by Hillsborough being an FA Cup Semi Final ground but even that's no longer so. Now, average team with big (and empty) stadium. Nottingham Forest = now clinging on to the last vestiges of the bigness they achieved under Clough. They have about another 5 years left to go back up and re-establish themselves or they will become another Wednesday...a big club at a low level but not a big club. Leeds = have a touch of the Man Utds about them; fundamentally big so it will take (or is taking) a little longer for their bigness to wear off. By far the biggest of the teams in your list. Derby = See Sheffield Wednesday. Weren't really ever big in the first place. Leicester = See Derby. Ipswich = See Leicester. Bolton = Haven't been big since the 50s. Even in their Premiership years, they weren't big. It's over half a century since they've been anything but an average team. Birmingham = See most of the above. Blackburn = I think a lot of their bigness comes from the Jack Walker years rather than from history. Still, they became big and are just about still are because that was only a decade or so ago. Give Venky's a couple more years and they'll be back where they came from in the 80s. So, to me of the teams you mention, only Leeds are really "big". The rest are what I would call, like Palace, "big small teams", not "big big teams". The funniest thing is deluded Bolton-type supporters who are given to pretending their team is further upmarket than it is.
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