No Ydraig gogch(?) I don't mean you in my rant. Just those who think the cart must come before the horse. Glad you agree this is not the way forward. Driving back from the north on Saturday I listened to the match on 909 live and heard the bloke say, on several occasions, 'this old ramshackle stadium'. That gets me, as I was one of those who turned up before Palace's first match in the top section as a student, to help finish building the Arthur. Since then I have witnessed my 'home' ground develop further but is now in need of a giant leap. This can only come about with faith in the future of Palace, As I've written before, thank god for the imagination and faith of our previous boards.

Nope - unless the local planning authority say yep. It's all well and good saying we should expand to accommodate 35k + but the LPA have to approve it first. When we last applied to rebuild the ground with c42k seats, the LPA agreed a plan but limited to an increased capacity of only 600. As I said when I last posted on this, there will have to have been a complete sea change from the 1990s and the club may also have to finance a lot of public realm changes to deal with increased numbers, parking, road use, public transport etc as a condition for any significant increase in capacity. This takes time and a long term financial commitment which we are only likely to meet if we stay up.

I agree we should build regardless of what division we are in as it is essential to have the best facilities and infrastructure. But the money has to be there to achieve it otherwise rushing in means either settling for something cheap, crap and scaled down to what you originally wanted (IE settling for second best) or worse, you end up in horrendous debt.
I think we will have to be in the top division and collecting the Sky spondoolies for at least three years before a spade hits the dirt. Although that shouldn't stop the owners moving forward with architects drawings, planning meetings, outline planning permission, etc so us fans can at least see what they've got in mind and the excitement levels move up to pant wetting levels!

Well that's a first as Palace have repeatedly applied for planning permission to install under soil heating over the years and has always been denied. Noades applied at least twice as did Jordan. I do not know what the grounds for refusal were but I do know the club have wanted to install it at Selhurst Park for years and not been allowed.
It's not even that expensive to install. Certainly not the £1m you mention. Most of the labour costs will be already covered by our own groundstaff who are already on the pay role

Probably the usual reason - didn't offer the Croydon council planning committee members a big enough back hander.

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Is a requirement for Premiership football which we need to comply with and will mean the pitch will be raised.

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