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St Patrick Flag Wimbledon 21 Mar 14 8.39pm Send a Private Message to St Patrick Add St Patrick as a friend

Quote adrian b at 21 Mar 2014 5.34pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Mar 2014 4.56pm

Whilst Palace are in the top tier, support may rise. However the vast majority of supporters of 'big' teams aren't actually supporters in the sense that they attend matches. The are armchair fans.
As long as football is such high profile on the tellybox, then people will gravitate to the top teams as they can see them week in week out on sky or staffietelly.

Please believe me. Palace are now building a history and new supporters are coming on board. What is necessary is that the Palace directors go about building the stadium and buying top players and paying top wages. If they don't it probably means they do not believe in the club like we do. It's the same at Milwall and Charlton, so the original point is answered.

If the Directors follow your guidance, they have to double all the ticket prices!

 

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Firegut Flag Croydon 21 Mar 14 8.57pm Send a Private Message to Firegut Add Firegut as a friend

Quote St Patrick at 21 Mar 2014 8.39pm

Quote adrian b at 21 Mar 2014 5.34pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Mar 2014 4.56pm

Whilst Palace are in the top tier, support may rise. However the vast majority of supporters of 'big' teams aren't actually supporters in the sense that they attend matches. The are armchair fans.
As long as football is such high profile on the tellybox, then people will gravitate to the top teams as they can see them week in week out on sky or staffietelly.

Please believe me. Palace are now building a history and new supporters are coming on board. What is necessary is that the Palace directors go about building the stadium and buying top players and paying top wages. If they don't it probably means they do not believe in the club like we do. It's the same at Milwall and Charlton, so the original point is answered.

If the Directors follow your guidance, they have to double all the ticket prices!

That's the thing, I'm a bit selfish in my wishes really as I don't really want us to emulate the likes of arsenal spurs and chelsea, the three most expensive clubs to support in the uk and all have dead atmospheres. Prefer us the way we are

 

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rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 21 Mar 14 9.32pm Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend


Palace have - with exception of one brief period - never "threatened" to become a top division team. We are seen as occasional visitors to the PL. In order to build the kind of "big team" image/support craved by many here CPFC just have to stay in the PL and progress. Do that for enough years and we will begin to be taken seriously as a PL team and everything else will follow.
I appreciate easier said than done.

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 21 Mar 14 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Hey , I can accept people saying Arsenal and Spurs are 'big' clubs but Chelski ? Do me a favour all they are ,are a telly team followed by glory hunters . When they were in the old first division they used to get 6,000 gates while Palace got twice that in div 3.

Anyway now having got that off chest I would say it hasn't been for the want of trying .All success goes in cycles ,unfortunately for us we peaked when the English clubs were banned from Europe ,our time when it came didn't happen . Todays success is all about money , unless we get some zillionaire in the boardroom its not going to happen , but do we really want that ?
Were Palace , that's the way we like it.

 

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Firegut Flag Croydon 21 Mar 14 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Firegut Add Firegut as a friend

Quote Elpis at 21 Mar 2014 9.35pm

Hey , I can accept people saying Arsenal and Spurs are 'big' clubs but Chelski ? Do me a favour all they are ,are a telly team followed by glory hunters . When they were in the old first division they used to get 6,000 gates while Palace got twice that in div 3.

Anyway now having got that off chest I would say it hasn't been for the want of trying .All success goes in cycles ,unfortunately for us we peaked when the English clubs were banned from Europe ,our time when it came didn't happen . Todays success is all about money , unless we get some zillionaire in the boardroom its not going to happen , but do we really want that ?
Were Palace , that's the way we like it.

Well that's true if I was being harsh if have said the only 'big' London clubs are arsenal and spurs, but tbf in the current era chelsea are up there even though it's a bit false, and yeah, it's maybe a stretch with west ham, they aren't really. But still, whatever, like you said, a lot of us like it the way it is.

I can see why people fantasise about Palace commanding huge gates and the club having massive support round the boroughs etc, but it would come at a huge cost (literally and figuratively)


 

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Bubbs Flag Edinburgh 22 Mar 14 5.58am Send a Private Message to Bubbs Add Bubbs as a friend

South London teams Premiership record standings

Wimbledon: 93/94 6th

Charlton: 03/04 7th

Palace: 04/05 18th

Millwall: Never been in the Premiership

 


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Palace_denizen Flag filed under " time wasters " 22 Mar 14 12.41pm

Quote Bubbs at 22 Mar 2014 5.58am

South London teams Premiership record standings

Wimbledon: 93/94 6th

Charlton: 03/04 7th

Palace: 04/05 18th

Millwall: Never been in the Premiership

jesus, so the best ever Prem team from South London is the one which died, never got much fans and bVggered off to milton keynes ?

 


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c_block_shedevil Flag London 22 Mar 14 12.53pm Send a Private Message to c_block_shedevil Add c_block_shedevil as a friend

Quote Elpis at 21 Mar 2014 9.35pm

Hey , I can accept people saying Arsenal and Spurs are 'big' clubs but Chelski ? Do me a favour all they are ,are a telly team followed by glory hunters . When they were in the old first division they used to get 6,000 gates while Palace got twice that in div 3.

Anyway now having got that off chest I would say it hasn't been for the want of trying .All success goes in cycles ,unfortunately for us we peaked when the English clubs were banned from Europe ,our time when it came didn't happen . Todays success is all about money , unless we get some zillionaire in the boardroom its not going to happen , but do we really want that ?
Were Palace , that's the way we like it.


I detest Chelsea as much as the next palace fan - in fact I probably hate them more than most! And yes they do have a disgustingly high number of glory hunter fans. But they still have an attendance almost double ours, and have won trophies. In modern day I'd say they are bigger than spurs.

 


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adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 22 Mar 14 1.20pm Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

Yes, Palace are building a history and have been doing so since 1905. They reached a peak, so far, in the early 70s and have gone a bit backward since. Look at the evidence of the stadium size to the support. At the original Crystal Palace huge gates that whittled down a bit at the nest and the brief stay at Herne Hill Velodrome, but still good sized gates in that league. The move to Selhurst saw gates grow again and the subsequent ground improvement by the late, great AJ Waite saw gates really soar to at least 50% higher than they are now. Proof indeed the input of the owners is well reflected by the subsequent rise in support every time. Again, it's up to the board to show they have as much faith as the fans, or the club go the other way. To say Palace are not building a history, like all clubs, is like saying the top sides always had large support from day one. That isn't possible as much building support is.

 

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EastEndPalace Flag WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 22 Mar 14 1.21pm

Quote Bubbs at 22 Mar 2014 5.58am

South London teams Premiership record standings

Wimbledon: 93/94 6th

Charlton: 03/04 7th

Palace: 04/05 18th

Millwall: Never been in the Premiership

Never mind all that bollocks third in the top flight makes us South Londons no 1. Not that we needed to prove that

 

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