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Jonny Williams impressing on loan at Ipswich
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 kennys boots 79  Keston 19 Mar 14 8.36pm |
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Quote maxipalace at 19 Mar 2014 8.06pm
We need him back now Bored of defending most of the game.
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james03  Bangkok 20 Mar 14 2.29am |
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A few of you are going to look very silly in a year or so's time. JW is a superb player in the making and will go on to be a regular with one of the top clubs here or in Europe. He needs only to play wekk in and week out and learn his craft and to avoid injury. However, from an injury perspective he is NOT injury prone through a weak body - most of his injuries have come from being hacked down and any player would likely have fared as badly as he has. Perhaps six months in the Championship next season and then back to us in January when his career will start to take off. This kid is a golden nugget.
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| silvertop Portishead 20 Mar 14 10.11am |
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Arsenal have monitored him for years; had we not come up, Cardiff were waiting to pay whatever we wanted for him. He is a class player who needs time at this level which we have not given him. My Welsh mate came back from a Wales game where he was running rings round top Serie A players. That he goes to Ipswich on loan and immediately gets MOTM comes as no suprise to me. Hopefully, should we survive and when we are not entirely focussed on grinding out bare survival a player of his flare and ability will get his chance to shine. I just hope it's for us.
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 20 Mar 14 11.01am |
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Quote silvertop at 20 Mar 2014 10.11am
Arsenal have monitored him for years; had we not come up, Cardiff were waiting to pay whatever we wanted for him. He is a class player who needs time at this level which we have not given him. My Welsh mate came back from a Wales game where he was running rings round top Serie A players. That he goes to Ipswich on loan and immediately gets MOTM comes as no suprise to me. Hopefully, should we survive and when we are not entirely focussed on grinding out bare survival a player of his flare and ability will get his chance to shine. I just hope it's for us. Absolute Tosh, How would you know Arsenal have monitored JW for years? If Cardiff were ready to pay whatever we wanted for him why didn't they put a bid in regardless of promotion, Answer because they didn't want him. The link was just put out there because he is Welsh. In truth JW just doesn't register on many other clubs radar, He doesn't play often enough and when he did created very little. As much as I want to see him do well he does not score goals and often runs sideways with the ball. He has good ball control but is not creative enough on a consistant basis. If he is the talent and Golden Nugget that some think he is why does he not get in the team when fit? Personally think we overrate players that come through the academy on the back of the few that have gone on to be successful with other clubs. What some on here said were Sure-fire superstars are not quite turning out that way sitting on the bench at other clubs.
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| EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 20 Mar 14 11.40am |
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Quote bubble wrap at 20 Mar 2014 11.01am
Quote silvertop at 20 Mar 2014 10.11am
Arsenal have monitored him for years; had we not come up, Cardiff were waiting to pay whatever we wanted for him. He is a class player who needs time at this level which we have not given him. My Welsh mate came back from a Wales game where he was running rings round top Serie A players. That he goes to Ipswich on loan and immediately gets MOTM comes as no suprise to me. Hopefully, should we survive and when we are not entirely focussed on grinding out bare survival a player of his flare and ability will get his chance to shine. I just hope it's for us. Absolute Tosh, How would you know Arsenal have monitored JW for years? If Cardiff were ready to pay whatever we wanted for him why didn't they put a bid in regardless of promotion, Answer because they didn't want him. The link was just put out there because he is Welsh. In truth JW just doesn't register on many other clubs radar, He doesn't play often enough and when he did created very little. As much as I want to see him do well he does not score goals and often runs sideways with the ball. He has good ball control but is not creative enough on a consistant basis. If he is the talent and Golden Nugget that some think he is why does he not get in the team when fit? Personally think we overrate players that come through the academy on the back of the few that have gone on to be successful with other clubs. What some on here said were Sure-fire superstars are not quite turning out that way sitting on the bench at other clubs.
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| Green Bin Carshalton Beeches 20 Mar 14 12.00pm |
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Quote Gyro1780 at 19 Mar 2014 6.09pm
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Quote Nevermind at 19 Mar 2014 4.02pm
"The spectacles are particularly rose-tinted because Jonny is bringing “a creative spark” to a midfield which has been painfully lacking all season. “Jonny’s one of the few players we have at the moment who seems to have his mind on attacking the opposition and playing clever balls forward rather than sideways. He was also very good at tracking back so I can see why Mick is a fan of him.” We know that marriage is not an option, but we are greatly enjoying the romance while it lasts."
We don't need him for the rest of this season. Bannan can play the same role but doesn't get any game time. Agreed...and we have Guedioura, who should be operating behind Murray or Jerome whilst Chamakh is out, and is much for of an attacking threat...likewise if Thomas got some consistent game time, we might see a regular supply of decent crosses for Murray/Gued to knock in Would love to see Pulis start with a midfield/attack of Bannan Ledley Jedinak Thomas Guedioura Murray Which gives attacking options of Ince/Bolasie/Puncheon as back up....certainly think Ince might do better as an impact sub....haven't even mentioned Gayle, who surely would work well with Murray...In others words no real opportunities for JW here at the moment
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| Lyons550 Shirley 20 Mar 14 1.36pm |
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Quote bubble wrap at 20 Mar 2014 11.01am
Quote silvertop at 20 Mar 2014 10.11am
Arsenal have monitored him for years; had we not come up, Cardiff were waiting to pay whatever we wanted for him. He is a class player who needs time at this level which we have not given him. My Welsh mate came back from a Wales game where he was running rings round top Serie A players. That he goes to Ipswich on loan and immediately gets MOTM comes as no suprise to me. Hopefully, should we survive and when we are not entirely focussed on grinding out bare survival a player of his flare and ability will get his chance to shine. I just hope it's for us. Absolute Tosh, How would you know Arsenal have monitored JW for years? If Cardiff were ready to pay whatever we wanted for him why didn't they put a bid in regardless of promotion, Answer because they didn't want him. The link was just put out there because he is Welsh. In truth JW just doesn't register on many other clubs radar, He doesn't play often enough and when he did created very little. As much as I want to see him do well he does not score goals and often runs sideways with the ball. He has good ball control but is not creative enough on a consistant basis. If he is the talent and Golden Nugget that some think he is why does he not get in the team when fit? Personally think we overrate players that come through the academy on the back of the few that have gone on to be successful with other clubs. What some on here said were Sure-fire superstars are not quite turning out that way sitting on the bench at other clubs. TBF to silvertop its a widely known fact that Wenger has watched Jonniesta many times over the last 4plus years...my question would be if he's as great as Silvertop thinks he is then why didnt Wenger make an offer?
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Aj's_Magic_Hat  Las Palmas 20 Mar 14 1.48pm |
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Quote Green Bin at 20 Mar 2014 12.00pm
Quote Gyro1780 at 19 Mar 2014 6.09pm
Quote blind eagle at 19 Mar 2014 4.20pm
Quote Nevermind at 19 Mar 2014 4.02pm
"The spectacles are particularly rose-tinted because Jonny is bringing “a creative spark” to a midfield which has been painfully lacking all season. “Jonny’s one of the few players we have at the moment who seems to have his mind on attacking the opposition and playing clever balls forward rather than sideways. He was also very good at tracking back so I can see why Mick is a fan of him.” We know that marriage is not an option, but we are greatly enjoying the romance while it lasts."
We don't need him for the rest of this season. Bannan can play the same role but doesn't get any game time. Agreed...and we have Guedioura, who should be operating behind Murray or Jerome whilst Chamakh is out, and is much for of an attacking threat...likewise if Thomas got some consistent game time, we might see a regular supply of decent crosses for Murray/Gued to knock in Would love to see Pulis start with a midfield/attack of Bannan Ledley Jedinak Thomas Guedioura Murray Which gives attacking options of Ince/Bolasie/Puncheon as back up....certainly think Ince might do better as an impact sub....haven't even mentioned Gayle, who surely would work well with Murray...In others words no real opportunities for JW here at the moment
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| silvertop Portishead 20 Mar 14 2.05pm |
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Quote Lyons550 at 20 Mar 2014 1.36pm
Quote bubble wrap at 20 Mar 2014 11.01am
Quote silvertop at 20 Mar 2014 10.11am
Arsenal have monitored him for years; had we not come up, Cardiff were waiting to pay whatever we wanted for him. He is a class player who needs time at this level which we have not given him. My Welsh mate came back from a Wales game where he was running rings round top Serie A players. That he goes to Ipswich on loan and immediately gets MOTM comes as no suprise to me. Hopefully, should we survive and when we are not entirely focussed on grinding out bare survival a player of his flare and ability will get his chance to shine. I just hope it's for us. Absolute Tosh, How would you know Arsenal have monitored JW for years? If Cardiff were ready to pay whatever we wanted for him why didn't they put a bid in regardless of promotion, Answer because they didn't want him. The link was just put out there because he is Welsh. In truth JW just doesn't register on many other clubs radar, He doesn't play often enough and when he did created very little. As much as I want to see him do well he does not score goals and often runs sideways with the ball. He has good ball control but is not creative enough on a consistant basis. If he is the talent and Golden Nugget that some think he is why does he not get in the team when fit? Personally think we overrate players that come through the academy on the back of the few that have gone on to be successful with other clubs. What some on here said were Sure-fire superstars are not quite turning out that way sitting on the bench at other clubs. TBF to silvertop its a widely known fact that Wenger has watched Jonniesta many times over the last 4plus years...my question would be if he's as great as Silvertop thinks he is then why didnt Wenger make an offer?
I also agree that our academy is not nearly as good as people think it is. We are so far short of Southampton, for instance, it is not true.
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| Nevermind 20 Mar 14 3.20pm |
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Pretty difficult to have an accurate view of how good our academy is unless you watch them regularly IMHO. Besides, what are people classing as "success"? A successful Crystal Palace academy is not the same as a successful Southampton academy or a successful Man U academy. Edited by Nevermind (20 Mar 2014 3.22pm)
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| maxipalace in a box 20 Mar 14 6.16pm |
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Quote Lyons550 at 20 Mar 2014 1.36pm
Quote bubble wrap at 20 Mar 2014 11.01am
Quote silvertop at 20 Mar 2014 10.11am
Arsenal have monitored him for years; had we not come up, Cardiff were waiting to pay whatever we wanted for him. He is a class player who needs time at this level which we have not given him. My Welsh mate came back from a Wales game where he was running rings round top Serie A players. That he goes to Ipswich on loan and immediately gets MOTM comes as no suprise to me. Hopefully, should we survive and when we are not entirely focussed on grinding out bare survival a player of his flare and ability will get his chance to shine. I just hope it's for us. Absolute Tosh, How would you know Arsenal have monitored JW for years? If Cardiff were ready to pay whatever we wanted for him why didn't they put a bid in regardless of promotion, Answer because they didn't want him. The link was just put out there because he is Welsh. In truth JW just doesn't register on many other clubs radar, He doesn't play often enough and when he did created very little. As much as I want to see him do well he does not score goals and often runs sideways with the ball. He has good ball control but is not creative enough on a consistant basis. If he is the talent and Golden Nugget that some think he is why does he not get in the team when fit? Personally think we overrate players that come through the academy on the back of the few that have gone on to be successful with other clubs. What some on here said were Sure-fire superstars are not quite turning out that way sitting on the bench at other clubs. TBF to silvertop its a widely known fact that Wenger has watched Jonniesta many times over the last 4plus years...my question would be if he's as great as Silvertop thinks he is then why didnt Wenger make an offer?
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| maxipalace in a box 20 Mar 14 6.20pm |
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Quote silvertop at 20 Mar 2014 10.11am
Arsenal have monitored him for years; had we not come up, Cardiff were waiting to pay whatever we wanted for him. He is a class player who needs time at this level which we have not given him. My Welsh mate came back from a Wales game where he was running rings round top Serie A players. That he goes to Ipswich on loan and immediately gets MOTM comes as no suprise to me. Hopefully, should we survive and when we are not entirely focussed on grinding out bare survival a player of his flare and ability will get his chance to shine. I just hope it's for us.
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