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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 16 Mar 14 1.00pm
as others have said, Norwich look in big trouble. I'm hopeing one above us, Swans, hammers or Hull will go on a terrible run, although Hull seem to have the best of the remaining fixtures. the other concern is the better goal difference of others(disregarding Cardiff & Fulham obviously) really don't want to go to Fulham needing something Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.
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as others have said, Norwich look in big trouble.
I'm hopeing one above us, Swans, hammers or Hull will go on a terrible run,
although Hull seem to have the best of the remaining fixtures.
the other concern is the better goal difference of others(disregarding Cardiff & Fulham obviously)
really don't want to go to Fulham needing something

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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dg1937 16 Mar 14 1.30pm
In The Observer today they have analysed the number of points per game achieved so far this season by the teams that each of the relegation threatened teams is facing from now on. This seems a reasonable measure of the degree of difficulty of our respective run ins. Stoke 1.29 Hull 1.30 Aston Villa 1.34 West Brom 1.34 Fulham 1.38 Cardiff 1.41 Swansea 1.47 Norwich 1.48 Sunderland 1.51 Palace 1.51 West Ham 1.54 So only West Ham have a tougher run in than Palace. BUT If you factor in the gap the teams below us have to make up: Fulham 4 points (5 allowing for their dreadful GD) Cardiff 3 (effectively 4) Sunderland 3. then the article argues they'll have to go some to catch us up. In the end no league was ever decided on paper, I think we all know it's going to be tight to the last game if only because we are Palace and we never do it the easy way!
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16 Mar 14 1.30pm

In The Observer today they have analysed the number of points per game achieved so far this season by the teams that each of the relegation threatened teams is facing from now on. This seems a reasonable measure of the degree of difficulty of our respective run ins.

Stoke 1.29
Hull 1.30
Aston Villa 1.34
West Brom 1.34
Fulham 1.38
Cardiff 1.41
Swansea 1.47
Norwich 1.48
Sunderland 1.51
Palace 1.51
West Ham 1.54

So only West Ham have a tougher run in than Palace.

BUT

If you factor in the gap the teams below us have to make up:

Fulham 4 points (5 allowing for their dreadful GD)
Cardiff 3 (effectively 4)
Sunderland 3.

then the article argues they'll have to go some to catch us up.

In the end no league was ever decided on paper, I think we all know it's going to be tight to the last game if only because we are Palace and we never do it the easy way!

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lil j-eagle little bookham 16 Mar 14 2.07pm
Quote dg1937 at 16 Mar 2014 1.30pm In The Observer today they have analysed the number of points per game achieved so far this season by the teams that each of the relegation threatened teams is facing from now on. This seems a reasonable measure of the degree of difficulty of our respective run ins. Stoke 1.29 Hull 1.30 Aston Villa 1.34 West Brom 1.34 Fulham 1.38 Cardiff 1.41 Swansea 1.47 Norwich 1.48 Sunderland 1.51 Palace 1.51 West Ham 1.54 So only West Ham have a tougher run in than Palace. BUT If you factor in the gap the teams below us have to make up: Fulham 4 points (5 allowing for their dreadful GD) Cardiff 3 (effectively 4) Sunderland 3. then the article argues they'll have to go some to catch us up. In the end no league was ever decided on paper, I think we all know it's going to be tight to the last game if only because we are Palace and we never do it the easy way! I dont think you can really analyse our fixtures/performance like that. First of all, you have to take it from when pulis took over as we are a completely different team since he came in. Secondly, if you were to look at pulis's away record since coming in it would suggest we're not great away from home (1W, 2D, 5L, 3 goals) but 4 of those 5 losses were against teams in the top 5, we only have one away game against tough opposition (everton) remaining, the other 4 are definitely winable, certainly drawable. Similarly, 3 of our home games are against top teams, we've only had 1 home game against a top team this season under pulis (utd) and whilst we lost that game that certainly isnt enough evidence to suggest any sort of conclusion - we could end up not losing all three, we could be awful and lose all 3. Who knows? Using statistics to predict football is a very risky game and rarely works and i'm not really sure why it's become so popular in recent years Messi, you're good, but you can't hit a ball like ambrose
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little bookham 16 Mar 14 2.07pm

Quote dg1937 at 16 Mar 2014 1.30pm

Stoke 1.29
Hull 1.30
Aston Villa 1.34
West Brom 1.34
Fulham 1.38
Cardiff 1.41
Swansea 1.47
Norwich 1.48
Sunderland 1.51
Palace 1.51
West Ham 1.54

So only West Ham have a tougher run in than Palace.

BUT

If you factor in the gap the teams below us have to make up:

Fulham 4 points (5 allowing for their dreadful GD)
Cardiff 3 (effectively 4)
Sunderland 3.

then the article argues they'll have to go some to catch us up.

In the end no league was ever decided on paper, I think we all know it's going to be tight to the last game if only because we are Palace and we never do it the easy way!

I dont think you can really analyse our fixtures/performance like that. First of all, you have to take it from when pulis took over as we are a completely different team since he came in.

Secondly, if you were to look at pulis's away record since coming in it would suggest we're not great away from home (1W, 2D, 5L, 3 goals) but 4 of those 5 losses were against teams in the top 5, we only have one away game against tough opposition (everton) remaining, the other 4 are definitely winable, certainly drawable.

Similarly, 3 of our home games are against top teams, we've only had 1 home game against a top team this season under pulis (utd) and whilst we lost that game that certainly isnt enough evidence to suggest any sort of conclusion - we could end up not losing all three, we could be awful and lose all 3. Who knows?

Using statistics to predict football is a very risky game and rarely works and i'm not really sure why it's become so popular in recent years

Messi, you're good, but you can't hit a ball like ambrose

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Percy of Peckham Eton Mess 16 Mar 14 2.26pm
Quote Petereagle at 16 Mar 2014 12.55pm Quote vflynn at 16 Mar 2014 11.24am Quote Andy_G at 16 Mar 2014 8.14am Quote Dangermouse at 15 Mar 2014 8.42pm Everyone seems to have a tough run in. I still believe we need a bonus win against one of the big guys to achieve survival. We will have to pose more of a scoring threat to win one. Enter F F S Murray And Chamakh ...and I think Gayle still has a part to play too?!!! Denial is not just a river in Egypt!
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Quote Petereagle at 16 Mar 2014 12.55pm

Quote vflynn at 16 Mar 2014 11.24am

Quote Andy_G at 16 Mar 2014 8.14am

Quote Dangermouse at 15 Mar 2014 8.42pm

Everyone seems to have a tough run in.
I still believe we need a bonus win against one of the big guys to achieve survival.

We will have to pose more of a scoring threat to win one.

Enter F F S Murray

And Chamakh

...and I think Gayle still has a part to play too?!!!

Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 16 Mar 14 2.40pm
I agree with you percy, bring on gayle, if only for last half hour!
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 16 Mar 14 2.40pm

I agree with you percy, bring on gayle, if only for last half hour!

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jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Mar 14 3.37pm
I fancy our run in as generally pretty decent - Three really hard games out of the nine, and all at home where we've been strong, whilst our away games put our destiny in our own hands. If we can't pick up nine points from nine games as an average, then we deserve to be relegated. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 16 Mar 14 3.37pm

I fancy our run in as generally pretty decent - Three really hard games out of the nine, and all at home where we've been strong, whilst our away games put our destiny in our own hands. If we can't pick up nine points from nine games as an average, then we deserve to be relegated.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Mar 14 3.40pm
Quote kingdowieonthewall at 16 Mar 2014 1.00pm as others have said, Norwich look in big trouble. I'm hopeing one above us, Swans, hammers or Hull will go on a terrible run, although Hull seem to have the best of the remaining fixtures. the other concern is the better goal difference of others(disregarding Cardiff & Fulham obviously) really don't want to go to Fulham needing something I think West Ham, Stoke Swansea and Hull have enough to avoid relegation, but we can catch them. Sunderland, Norwich, West Brom and us are candidates for the last drop. Cardiff don't have enough to get out of it, and Fulham need yesterdays win to really kick start a recovery. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 16 Mar 14 3.40pm

Quote kingdowieonthewall at 16 Mar 2014 1.00pm

I think West Ham, Stoke Swansea and Hull have enough to avoid relegation, but we can catch them. Sunderland, Norwich, West Brom and us are candidates for the last drop. Cardiff don't have enough to get out of it, and Fulham need yesterdays win to really kick start a recovery.

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FinchleyEagle 16 Mar 14 5.05pm
Quote dg1937 at 16 Mar 2014 1.30pm In The Observer today they have analysed the number of points per game achieved so far this season by the teams that each of the relegation threatened teams is facing from now on. This seems a reasonable measure of the degree of difficulty of our respective run ins. Stoke 1.29 Hull 1.30 Aston Villa 1.34 West Brom 1.34 Fulham 1.38 Cardiff 1.41 Swansea 1.47 Norwich 1.48 Sunderland 1.51 Palace 1.51 West Ham 1.54 So only West Ham have a tougher run in than Palace. BUT If you factor in the gap the teams below us have to make up: Fulham 4 points (5 allowing for their dreadful GD) Cardiff 3 (effectively 4) Sunderland 3. then the article argues they'll have to go some to catch us up. In the end no league was ever decided on paper, I think we all know it's going to be tight to the last game if only because we are Palace and we never do it the easy way! Saw this too - that and the article on the HOL are both good. Fulham, Sunderland and Cardiff all have to do better than they have already, we don't, we just need to continue as we have been. Presuming that's right then we just need to draw every game. This also means that a win means we can lose two. They reckon 36 points is the magic number. We will do it. But it will be at Fulham ! You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue Yours sincerely Mile Jedinak
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FinchleyEagle

16 Mar 14 5.05pm

Quote dg1937 at 16 Mar 2014 1.30pm

Stoke 1.29
Hull 1.30
Aston Villa 1.34
West Brom 1.34
Fulham 1.38
Cardiff 1.41
Swansea 1.47
Norwich 1.48
Sunderland 1.51
Palace 1.51
West Ham 1.54

So only West Ham have a tougher run in than Palace.

BUT

If you factor in the gap the teams below us have to make up:

Fulham 4 points (5 allowing for their dreadful GD)
Cardiff 3 (effectively 4)
Sunderland 3.

then the article argues they'll have to go some to catch us up.

In the end no league was ever decided on paper, I think we all know it's going to be tight to the last game if only because we are Palace and we never do it the easy way!

Saw this too - that and the article on the HOL are both good. Fulham, Sunderland and Cardiff all have to do better than they have already, we don't, we just need to continue as we have been. Presuming that's right then we just need to draw every game. This also means that a win means we can lose two.

They reckon 36 points is the magic number.

We will do it. But it will be at Fulham !

You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue
Yours sincerely
Mile Jedinak

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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 16 Mar 14 5.10pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Mar 2014 3.40pm Quote kingdowieonthewall at 16 Mar 2014 1.00pm as others have said, Norwich look in big trouble. I'm hopeing one above us, Swans, hammers or Hull will go on a terrible run, although Hull seem to have the best of the remaining fixtures. the other concern is the better goal difference of others(disregarding Cardiff & Fulham obviously) really don't want to go to Fulham needing something I think West Ham, Stoke Swansea and Hull have enough to avoid relegation, but we can catch them. Sunderland, Norwich, West Brom and us are candidates for the last drop. Cardiff don't have enough to get out of it, and Fulham need yesterdays win to really kick start a recovery. agree, Hammers & Stoke look way too settled now, but got a feeling swans could slip further into trouble (fingers crossed) Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.
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Sussex, ex-Cronx. 16 Mar 14 5.10pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Mar 2014 3.40pm

Quote kingdowieonthewall at 16 Mar 2014 1.00pm

agree, Hammers & Stoke look way too settled now, but got a feeling swans could slip further into trouble
(fingers crossed)

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 16 Mar 14 7.06pm
I really want us safe before Fulham - it would be a painful way to go down - esp if fulham are already down and playing for pride. At the end of the day, we were favourites to go down, so anything above that is a bonus, but, if we need a result on the last game of the season, then, in all honesty, we probably deserve to go down - i'm not being disrespectful, but just the way i see it - it's like the play off, a team in the championship that finished 3rd get's knocked out by a team that scraped into 6th - i know it's not over til it's over, but i just couldn't handle that game - sheff wednesday was too much for me!! But.. having said that - it's palace, we don't do it any other way This was once a quality forum....
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vancouver/croydon 16 Mar 14 7.06pm

I really want us safe before Fulham - it would be a painful way to go down - esp if fulham are already down and playing for pride.

At the end of the day, we were favourites to go down, so anything above that is a bonus, but, if we need a result on the last game of the season, then, in all honesty, we probably deserve to go down - i'm not being disrespectful, but just the way i see it - it's like the play off, a team in the championship that finished 3rd get's knocked out by a team that scraped into 6th - i know it's not over til it's over, but i just couldn't handle that game - sheff wednesday was too much for me!! But.. having said that - it's palace, we don't do it any other way

This was once a quality forum....

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thai-eagle chiang mai 17 Mar 14 9.47am
My wish for the games vs the big guns, be a little braver and little less defensive! We've got nothing to lose to take the game to them, so far we're without a win against the top sides anyway.
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chiang mai 17 Mar 14 9.47am

My wish for the games vs the big guns, be a little braver and little less defensive! We've got nothing to lose to take the game to them, so far we're without a win against the top sides anyway.

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Magician Worcester Park, Surrey 17 Mar 14 10.08am
I sort of agree that 36/37 points will be enough to just stay up this season, not the magic 40 total. We have been very good at Home this season but they are a tough last few home games. Home - Chelsea, Villa, Man City, Liverpool If we could get at least 2 points from those and then a further 6 points from our away games : Away - Newcastle, Cardiff, Everton, West Ham, Fulham of course the perfect 2 to win away would be Cardiff and Fulham to open the gap a bit more. Our last 2 away points against Swansea and Sunderland have been SO SO important ! I say we finish on 36 points and stay up. Fulham, Cardiff and Norwich to drop
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Worcester Park, Surrey 17 Mar 14 10.08am

I sort of agree that 36/37 points will be enough to just stay up this season, not the magic 40 total.

We have been very good at Home this season but they are a tough last few home games.

Home - Chelsea, Villa, Man City, Liverpool

If we could get at least 2 points from those and then a further 6 points from our away games :

Away - Newcastle, Cardiff, Everton, West Ham, Fulham

of course the perfect 2 to win away would be Cardiff and Fulham to open the gap a bit more.

Our last 2 away points against Swansea and Sunderland have been SO SO important !

I say we finish on 36 points and stay up. Fulham, Cardiff and Norwich to drop

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