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Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 28 Feb 14 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

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I'm liking his work at the moment. Now the fans who welcomed him & his megabucks are getting restless.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Feb 14 1.06pm

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Him and 'Ron El Jeremy' at Fulham seem to have inspired their own relegation problems.

 


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Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 28 Feb 14 1.07pm Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

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I don't know why I created this thread, I posted on the other one earlier! Please feel free to delete.

 

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martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 28 Feb 14 1.44pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Quote Southampton_Eagle at 28 Feb 2014 9.51am

He really doesn't like Moody.


I was talking to someone at the game on Saturday who is friends with someone high up within Cardiff. I don't know how much truth there is in this, but apparently Tan is about to issue Moody a writ for alleged financial misdealings.
May be a load of cobblers. Just thought I'd share as this has come up.

 

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FinchleyEagle Flag 28 Feb 14 1.55pm Send a Private Message to FinchleyEagle Add FinchleyEagle as a friend

Quote martin2412 at 28 Feb 2014 1.44pm

Quote Southampton_Eagle at 28 Feb 2014 9.51am

He really doesn't like Moody.


I was talking to someone at the game on Saturday who is friends with someone high up within Cardiff. I don't know how much truth there is in this, but apparently Tan is about to issue Moody a writ for alleged financial misdealings.
May be a load of cobblers. Just thought I'd share as this has come up.

Seems unlikely to me - as the owner he must have either delegated authority or approved it. Not sure where his case would come from.

Im sure the HF held up a banner to Cardiff this year or last year pretty much saying they had sold their soul or something like that (feel free to EFA) which they have.

We paid the price for doing that (twice) I have no sympathy for anyone else. They took the money and seemed to think the new owner would just simply spend lots of money without wanting to change his acquisition in any way at all. How incredibly unrealistic that is.

 


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sydtheeagle Flag England 28 Feb 14 2.37pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Quote FinchleyEagle at 28 Feb 2014 1.55pm

Seems unlikely to me - as the owner he must have either delegated authority or approved it. Not sure where his case would come from.


Well, if Tan is claiming the "financial misdealing" is theft then he wouldn't have known about it.

 


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adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 28 Feb 14 3.02pm Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Feb 2014 1.00pm

I think Adrian's post is a bit problematic.

>There is no doubt this is shrewd business man.

In his football-related dealings, I would say there is a serious amount of doubt. He has alienated his customer-base, allowed a key employee to mis-spend many millions of pounds (by his own admission) due to lack of oversight, and has fired his key management figure and replaced him with some who has 0 days experience working in the competitive environment in which he has been placed. Shrewd? Being a shrewd investor is not the same thing as being a shrewd football club owner.

>He sees his investment as just that.

Really? And his first step is pissing off the people who buy his product by changing its most fundamental aspect (the clubs identity and colours). Don't know about you, but that's not how I'd treat something if I saw it as an investment. In fact, I'd say he's treating like a toy that he can do anything he wants with. And, sadly, he can.

> If we think this is mumbo-jumbo than why should we care what colours our teams turn out in?

People care about the colour change because it bucks traditional identity, not because it's mumbo-jumbo. But even that is secondary. If the buying public express a desire for a certain type of product, only a fool would say "get lost...I'm going to sell you something that you don't want instead, just because I can."

My conclusion is that Tan has acted like an idiot. And it's about to cost him quite a lot of money.



That's right Syd, exactly as I stated. The only way Mr Tan can get back credibility with the fans is to think of it less as an investment, more as a traditional thing to be respected. Bit like our board are doing

 

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Quote kent675 at 28 Feb 2014 8.31am

It could be worse, very worse. Read this...

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whats the link about cardiff got to do with palace

 

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Firegut Flag Croydon 28 Feb 14 8.24pm Send a Private Message to Firegut Add Firegut as a friend

So if red is lucky and blue is unlucky, we are permanently f***ed

 

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Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 28 Feb 14 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Read the article ob the BBC site and had a read through the replies etc here. As a similar club to Cardiff, i.e one who went up last year and are trying to survive in the Premier this season it is very realistic and relevant that we do look at Cardiff and how they have gone about things, especially as we look at what is on the face of it two board who are poles apart (One lead by a foreign owner who has no vested heart or interest in the clubs traditions and one owned by a `group` of English business men who do have a place in their hearts for their club and its traditions.

Two thoughts sprung to my mind.

1. with the allegations of Moody overspending it is interesting that he now works in an environment which has actually been criticized over two transfer windows for being `over-cautious` in the transfer market with regards to funds. there is a general perception that we `overpent` on one player, Gayle 4.5 to 6.5 million. It is reported on the BBC site that the actual cost of Cornelius (Cardiff's equivalent to Gayle - Young potential unproven striker at top level striker) has actually 20 million in total!

2. Tan decided he could do what he wanted to re-brand the club, his club his decision, sod tradition or the fans. Palace did have the same thoughts, only last year (or was it the year before) the board said they wanted to change the club badge for re-branding and merchandise reasons. The 6 or so suggestions were vastly different from the traditional badge. But, and this is the key they looked to get the fans opinions, to be honest the responses were not favorable, for a variety of reasons but it was evident that the club listened to the wishes of the fans and our current badge is a `middle ground` between the clubs wishes and the fans (Actually more towards the fans wishes), the board probably wish the result was closer to their wishes but in my view they came out better as it proves they do listen...take note Mr Tan

 

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TomThePalaceFanatic Flag 28 Feb 14 9.11pm Send a Private Message to TomThePalaceFanatic Add TomThePalaceFanatic as a friend

Employing Solskjaer was suicidal. Getting rid of Mackay and Moody would be understandable, if they didn't hire someone with no managerial experience in any league of note

 

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Quote Mwncisee at 28 Feb 2014 9.07pm

Read the article ob the BBC site and had a read through the replies etc here. As a similar club to Cardiff, i.e one who went up last year and are trying to survive in the Premier this season it is very realistic and relevant that we do look at Cardiff and how they have gone about things, especially as we look at what is on the face of it two board who are poles apart (One lead by a foreign owner who has no vested heart or interest in the clubs traditions and one owned by a `group` of English business men who do have a place in their hearts for their club and its traditions.

Two thoughts sprung to my mind.

1. with the allegations of Moody overspending it is interesting that he now works in an environment which has actually been criticized over two transfer windows for being `over-cautious` in the transfer market with regards to funds. there is a general perception that we `overpent` on one player, Gayle 4.5 to 6.5 million. It is reported on the BBC site that the actual cost of Cornelius (Cardiff's equivalent to Gayle - Young potential unproven striker at top level striker) has actually 20 million in total!

2. Tan decided he could do what he wanted to re-brand the club, his club his decision, sod tradition or the fans. Palace did have the same thoughts, only last year (or was it the year before) the board said they wanted to change the club badge for re-branding and merchandise reasons. The 6 or so suggestions were vastly different from the traditional badge. But, and this is the key they looked to get the fans opinions, to be honest the responses were not favorable, for a variety of reasons but it was evident that the club listened to the wishes of the fans and our current badge is a `middle ground` between the clubs wishes and the fans (Actually more towards the fans wishes), the board probably wish the result was closer to their wishes but in my view they came out better as it proves they do listen...take note Mr Tan

Moody was not at Palace when we signed Dwight.

 


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