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maddog Wiltshire 04 Feb 14 10.35am
Quote thebob at 04 Feb 2014 9.53am Quote TrickyBoy at 04 Feb 2014 7.15am Whhhooooossssshhhhh !!! straight over my head! (i know its probably brilliant but Im too dumb to understand) The idea is that we need to do well against the teams in the bottom of the table. As long as we do better than them, we stay up. The percentages show the points difference between the lower teams. What is says is that we have a very good chance of staying up, if we keep doing well against the lower teams. This is where the theory goes wrong. It would work only if our rivals then lost their games against the top teams (since that is what we have done so far). But in fact they are winning and drawing those games. So WBA may have the worst stats against the relegation rivals but they are picking up picks against the top teams (like the point against Liverpool last weekend) and so are currently above us in the real league table.
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Wiltshire 04 Feb 14 10.35am

Quote thebob at 04 Feb 2014 9.53am

Quote TrickyBoy at 04 Feb 2014 7.15am

Whhhooooossssshhhhh !!!

straight over my head!

(i know its probably brilliant but Im too dumb to understand)

The idea is that we need to do well against the teams in the bottom of the table. As long as we do better than them, we stay up.

The percentages show the points difference between the lower teams.

What is says is that we have a very good chance of staying up, if we keep doing well against the lower teams.

This is where the theory goes wrong. It would work only if our rivals then lost their games against the top teams (since that is what we have done so far). But in fact they are winning and drawing those games.

So WBA may have the worst stats against the relegation rivals but they are picking up picks against the top teams (like the point against Liverpool last weekend) and so are currently above us in the real league table.

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aquickgame2 Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 04 Feb 14 10.43am
Statistics are all well and good but dont get you 3 points on the day.
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Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 04 Feb 14 10.43am

Statistics are all well and good but dont get you 3 points on the day.

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Norwich_Eagle Norwich 04 Feb 14 11.37am
Originally posted this on the BBS it doesn't take into account the round of fixtures just played: Okay based on the remaining fixtures those playing the bottom ten teams - assuming that the teams pick up no "bonus" points against teams in the top half of the table the stats are: Home Form Aston Villa - P 5 - W - 2 D - 1 L - 1 = 7 points an ave. of 1.40 p/game Swansea P - 5 W - 2 D - 3 L - 0 = 9 points an ave. of 1.80 p/game Norwich - P 7 W - 3 D - 2 L - 2 = 11 points an ave. of 1.57 p/game Hull - P - 8 W - 4 D - 3 L - 1 = 15 points an ave. of 1.88 p/game Crystal Palace P - 8 W - 5 D - 1 L - 2 = 16 points an ave. of 2.00 p/game WBA - P - 5 W - 2 D - 2 L - 1 = 8 points an ave. of 1.60 p/game Stoke - P - 6 W - 3 D - 2 L - 1 = 10 points an ave. of 1.67 p/game Sunderland - P - 4 W - 1 D - 1 L - 2 = 4 points an ave. of 1.00 p/game West Ham - P - 7 W - 2 D - 4 L - 1 = 10 points an ave. of 1.43 p/game Fulham - P 7 W - 3 D - 1 L - 3 = 10 points an ave. of 1.43 p/game Cardiff - P - 5 W - 2 D - 1 L - 2 = 7 points an ave. of 1.40 p/game Away Form Aston Villa - P 7 - W - 2 D - 3 L - 2 = 9 points an ave. of 1.29 p/game Swansea P - 6 W - 3 D - 2 L - 1 = 11 points an ave. of 1.83 p/game Norwich - P 5 W - 2 D - 2 L - 1 = 8 points an ave. of 1.60 p/game Hull - P - 4 W - 0 D - 2 L - 2 = 2 points an ave. of 0.50 p/game Crystal Palace P - 6 W - 2 D - 0 L - 4 = 6 points an ave. of 1.00 p/game WBA - P - 4 W - 0 D - 2 L - 2 = 2 points an ave. of 0.50 p/game Stoke - P - 6 W - 1 D - 2 L - 3 = 5 points an ave. of 0.83 p/game Sunderland - P - 8 W - 1 D - 2 L - 5 = 5 points an ave. of 0.63 p/game West Ham - P - 6 W - 1 D - 1 L - 4 = 4 points an ave. of 0.67 p/game Fulham - P 6 W - 3 D - 0 L - 3 = 9 points an ave. of 1.50 p/game Cardiff - P - 7 W - 1 D - 3 L - 3 = 6 points an ave. of 0.86 p/game Current Table Aston Villa - 27 Swansea - 24 Norwich - 24 Hull - 23 Crystal Palace - 23 WBA - 22 Stoke - 22 Sunderland - 21 West Ham - 19 Fulham - 19 Cardiff - 18 Based on the Results already this season teams will pick up Aston Villa - 11 Swansea - 16 Norwich - 11 Hull - 7 Crystal Palace - 9 WBA - 9 Stoke - 10 Sunderland - 7 West Ham - 9 Fulham - 10 Cardiff - 11 Final Table 10th Swansea - 40 +1 11th Aston Villa - 38 -1 12th Norwich - 35 0 13th Stoke - 32 (better goal difference currently) +3 14th Crystal Palace - 32 (worse goal difference currently) 0 15th WBA - 31 0 16th Hull - 30 -3 17th Cardiff - 29 (better goal difference currently) +3 18th Fulham - 29 (worse goal difference currently) +1 19th Sunderland - 28 -2 20th West Ham - 27 -2 I'm Not A Role Model I'm The Model
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Norwich 04 Feb 14 11.37am

Originally posted this on the BBS it doesn't take into account the round of fixtures just played:

Okay based on the remaining fixtures those playing the bottom ten teams - assuming that the teams pick up no "bonus" points against teams in the top half of the table the stats are:

Home Form

Aston Villa - P 5 - W - 2 D - 1 L - 1 = 7 points an ave. of 1.40 p/game
Swansea P - 5 W - 2 D - 3 L - 0 = 9 points an ave. of 1.80 p/game
Norwich - P 7 W - 3 D - 2 L - 2 = 11 points an ave. of 1.57 p/game
Hull - P - 8 W - 4 D - 3 L - 1 = 15 points an ave. of 1.88 p/game
Crystal Palace P - 8 W - 5 D - 1 L - 2 = 16 points an ave. of 2.00 p/game
WBA - P - 5 W - 2 D - 2 L - 1 = 8 points an ave. of 1.60 p/game
Stoke - P - 6 W - 3 D - 2 L - 1 = 10 points an ave. of 1.67 p/game
Sunderland - P - 4 W - 1 D - 1 L - 2 = 4 points an ave. of 1.00 p/game
West Ham - P - 7 W - 2 D - 4 L - 1 = 10 points an ave. of 1.43 p/game
Fulham - P 7 W - 3 D - 1 L - 3 = 10 points an ave. of 1.43 p/game
Cardiff - P - 5 W - 2 D - 1 L - 2 = 7 points an ave. of 1.40 p/game

Away Form

Aston Villa - P 7 - W - 2 D - 3 L - 2 = 9 points an ave. of 1.29 p/game
Swansea P - 6 W - 3 D - 2 L - 1 = 11 points an ave. of 1.83 p/game
Norwich - P 5 W - 2 D - 2 L - 1 = 8 points an ave. of 1.60 p/game
Hull - P - 4 W - 0 D - 2 L - 2 = 2 points an ave. of 0.50 p/game
Crystal Palace P - 6 W - 2 D - 0 L - 4 = 6 points an ave. of 1.00 p/game
WBA - P - 4 W - 0 D - 2 L - 2 = 2 points an ave. of 0.50 p/game
Stoke - P - 6 W - 1 D - 2 L - 3 = 5 points an ave. of 0.83 p/game
Sunderland - P - 8 W - 1 D - 2 L - 5 = 5 points an ave. of 0.63 p/game
West Ham - P - 6 W - 1 D - 1 L - 4 = 4 points an ave. of 0.67 p/game
Fulham - P 6 W - 3 D - 0 L - 3 = 9 points an ave. of 1.50 p/game
Cardiff - P - 7 W - 1 D - 3 L - 3 = 6 points an ave. of 0.86 p/game

Current Table

Aston Villa - 27
Swansea - 24
Norwich - 24
Hull - 23
Crystal Palace - 23
WBA - 22
Stoke - 22
Sunderland - 21
West Ham - 19
Fulham - 19
Cardiff - 18

Based on the Results already this season teams will pick up

Aston Villa - 11
Swansea - 16
Norwich - 11
Hull - 7
Crystal Palace - 9
WBA - 9
Stoke - 10
Sunderland - 7
West Ham - 9
Fulham - 10
Cardiff - 11

Final Table

10th Swansea - 40 +1
11th Aston Villa - 38 -1
12th Norwich - 35 0
13th Stoke - 32 (better goal difference currently) +3
14th Crystal Palace - 32 (worse goal difference currently) 0
15th WBA - 31 0
16th Hull - 30 -3
17th Cardiff - 29 (better goal difference currently) +3
18th Fulham - 29 (worse goal difference currently) +1
19th Sunderland - 28 -2
20th West Ham - 27 -2

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The Dolphin 04 Feb 14 1.09pm
Where is the link to the bbc predictor - can't find it anywhere Thanks
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04 Feb 14 1.09pm

Where is the link to the bbc predictor - can't find it anywhere
Thanks

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The Dolphin 04 Feb 14 1.12pm
West Ham and Sunderland will pick up - Sunderland already have. Wilf will propel Cardiff out of trouble - s*** happens! If we can beat WBA and the Villa at our place then I can see Fulham, WBA and Hull or norwich taking the dive. If we lose to either of those two I feel our days are numbered! The start to the season could be our downfall - Bloody Holloway! Edited by The Dolphin (04 Feb 2014 1.12pm)
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04 Feb 14 1.12pm

West Ham and Sunderland will pick up - Sunderland already have.
Wilf will propel Cardiff out of trouble - s*** happens!
If we can beat WBA and the Villa at our place then I can see Fulham, WBA and Hull or norwich taking the dive.
If we lose to either of those two I feel our days are numbered!
The start to the season could be our downfall - Bloody Holloway!

Edited by The Dolphin (04 Feb 2014 1.12pm)

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Feb 14 1.27pm
Quote cpj at 04 Feb 2014 9.20am All very well, but we have to play both Manchester clubs, Chelsea and Liverpool at home, and visit Cardiff, West Ham, Fulham, Swansea, Sunderland, Everton and Newcastle with our awful away record. 12th is somewhat optimistic. However, if Ince and Ledley can provide the creativity (and goals) that we sadly lack, and if Murray can some back in and score a few, then we do have a chance. Not 'Optimistic' more like 'miraculous' Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Feb 14 1.27pm

Quote cpj at 04 Feb 2014 9.20am

All very well, but we have to play both Manchester clubs, Chelsea and Liverpool at home, and visit Cardiff, West Ham, Fulham, Swansea, Sunderland, Everton and Newcastle with our awful away record. 12th is somewhat optimistic.

However, if Ince and Ledley can provide the creativity (and goals) that we sadly lack, and if Murray can some back in and score a few, then we do have a chance.

Not 'Optimistic' more like 'miraculous'

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maddog Wiltshire 04 Feb 14 1.42pm
"Originally posted this on the BBS it doesn't take into account the round of fixtures just played: Okay based on the remaining fixtures those playing the bottom ten teams - assuming that the teams pick up no "bonus" points against teams in the top half of the table ..." And that was a round of fixtures in which our rivals DID pick up "bonus" points against teams in the top half of the table" (Hull, Stoke, Sunderland,WBA) And the one thing the stats table shows is that we are pretty much the only team that have so far failed to pick up those "bonus" points. Focussing only on the games against our rivals is missing half the picture. As Delaney says - we need to win or draw games against the big teams.
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Wiltshire 04 Feb 14 1.42pm

"Originally posted this on the BBS it doesn't take into account the round of fixtures just played:

Okay based on the remaining fixtures those playing the bottom ten teams - assuming that the teams pick up no "bonus" points against teams in the top half of the table ..."

And that was a round of fixtures in which our rivals DID pick up "bonus" points against teams in the top half of the table" (Hull, Stoke, Sunderland,WBA)

And the one thing the stats table shows is that we are pretty much the only team that have so far failed to pick up those "bonus" points.

Focussing only on the games against our rivals is missing half the picture. As Delaney says - we need to win or draw games against the big teams.

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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 04 Feb 14 2.37pm
Quote cornwalls palace at 04 Feb 2014 9.20am Quote Rogers the legend at 04 Feb 2014 6.01am So after number crunching, and recording the candidates last 12 games against the top teams, here are my predictions for the teams going down. 20 - Fulham 19 - WBA 18 - Cardiff 17 - Westham 16 - Norwich 15 - Hull 14 - Swansea 13 - Stoke 12 - Palace 11 - A.Villa 10 - Sunderland Edited by Rogers the legend (04 Feb 2014 6.18am) ..I'm still sticking with Ham, Brom and Stoke. I would love to see them go down, especially after a West Ham-supporting sports journo was taking the piss at the beginning of the season telling me we have no hope of staying up and will finish bottom.
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Quote cornwalls palace at 04 Feb 2014 9.20am

Quote Rogers the legend at 04 Feb 2014 6.01am

So after number crunching, and recording the candidates last 12 games against the top teams, here are my predictions for the teams going down.

20 - Fulham
19 - WBA
18 - Cardiff
17 - Westham
16 - Norwich
15 - Hull
14 - Swansea
13 - Stoke
12 - Palace
11 - A.Villa
10 - Sunderland

Edited by Rogers the legend (04 Feb 2014 6.18am)

..I'm still sticking with Ham, Brom and Stoke.

I would love to see them go down, especially after a West Ham-supporting sports journo was taking the piss at the beginning of the season telling me we have no hope of staying up and will finish bottom.

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 04 Feb 14 3.49pm
Not so sure about Sunderland to be honest and I wouldnt rule out the Hughes effcet just yet depsite the win at the weekend. Fulham dont look good Norwich have the final 4 games from hell if they havent picked up enough points and WBA could be teetering `- they were incredibly lucky at the weekend to get that point against Liverpool and arent a great side Swansea could be the relegation dark horse - they were pathetic against West Ham As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 04 Feb 14 3.49pm

Not so sure about Sunderland to be honest and I wouldnt rule out the Hughes effcet just yet depsite the win at the weekend.

Fulham dont look good
Norwich have the final 4 games from hell if they havent picked up enough points and WBA could be teetering `- they were incredibly lucky at the weekend to get that point against Liverpool and arent a great side

Swansea could be the relegation dark horse - they were pathetic against West Ham

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 04 Feb 14 3.51pm
Quote Jimenez at 04 Feb 2014 1.27pm Quote cpj at 04 Feb 2014 9.20am All very well, but we have to play both Manchester clubs, Chelsea and Liverpool at home, and visit Cardiff, West Ham, Fulham, Swansea, Sunderland, Everton and Newcastle with our awful away record. 12th is somewhat optimistic. However, if Ince and Ledley can provide the creativity (and goals) that we sadly lack, and if Murray can some back in and score a few, then we do have a chance. Not 'Optimistic' more like 'miraculous' If I had the choice though I would rather face those 'top' sides at home than away - and if we have away games I would rather they were at the likes of Fulham and West Ham than Citeh and Liverpool As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 04 Feb 14 3.51pm

Quote Jimenez at 04 Feb 2014 1.27pm

Quote cpj at 04 Feb 2014 9.20am

However, if Ince and Ledley can provide the creativity (and goals) that we sadly lack, and if Murray can some back in and score a few, then we do have a chance.

Not 'Optimistic' more like 'miraculous'

If I had the choice though I would rather face those 'top' sides at home than away - and if we have away games I would rather they were at the likes of Fulham and West Ham than Citeh and Liverpool

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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7@burnley79 Battersea 04 Feb 14 11.25pm
Not sure this is that great a statistic most of our points are coming from home against the teams around us. This half of the season we play most of the teams around us away and play the harder teams who we are not taking points off at home. Plus of the OP statistics We are all on the same points in the bottom half which means we are taking the least amount of points of the top teams and now we have most of them at home. Personally my heads f-cked now Can last person turn off the lights when they leave please
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Battersea 04 Feb 14 11.25pm

Not sure this is that great a statistic

most of our points are coming from home against the teams around us. This half of the season we play most of the teams around us away and play the harder teams who we are not taking points off at home.

Plus of the OP statistics We are all on the same points in the bottom half which means we are taking the least amount of points of the top teams and now we have most of them at home.

Personally my heads f-cked now

Can last person turn off the lights when they leave please

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cornwalls palace Torpoint 04 Feb 14 11.35pm
Quote maddog at 04 Feb 2014 10.35am Quote thebob at 04 Feb 2014 9.53am Quote TrickyBoy at 04 Feb 2014 7.15am Whhhooooossssshhhhh !!! straight over my head! (i know its probably brilliant but Im too dumb to understand) The idea is that we need to do well against the teams in the bottom of the table. As long as we do better than them, we stay up. The percentages show the points difference between the lower teams. What is says is that we have a very good chance of staying up, if we keep doing well against the lower teams. This is where the theory goes wrong. It would work only if our rivals then lost their games against the top teams (since that is what we have done so far). But in fact they are winning and drawing those games. So WBA may have the worst stats against the relegation rivals but they are picking up picks against the top teams (like the point against Liverpool last weekend) and so are currently above us in the real league table. ... did you see it, have you ever seen a team sooooooooooooooooo lucky. Wet Bum are dooooomed. Edited by cornwalls palace (04 Feb 2014 11.39pm) .......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!
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Torpoint 04 Feb 14 11.35pm

Quote maddog at 04 Feb 2014 10.35am

Quote thebob at 04 Feb 2014 9.53am

Quote TrickyBoy at 04 Feb 2014 7.15am

Whhhooooossssshhhhh !!!

straight over my head!

(i know its probably brilliant but Im too dumb to understand)

The idea is that we need to do well against the teams in the bottom of the table. As long as we do better than them, we stay up.

The percentages show the points difference between the lower teams.

What is says is that we have a very good chance of staying up, if we keep doing well against the lower teams.

So WBA may have the worst stats against the relegation rivals but they are picking up picks against the top teams (like the point against Liverpool last weekend) and so are currently above us in the real league table.

... did you see it, have you ever seen a team sooooooooooooooooo lucky.

Wet Bum are dooooomed.

Edited by cornwalls palace (04 Feb 2014 11.39pm)

.......has our coach driver done a Poo'yet, without thinking about Gus!

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