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Helmet46 Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.24pm
Back to the OP's initial comment - could Joel Ward be turned into a better midfielder than he is a RB? This is what happened to Gareth Bale. Personally I don't think so. I like him at RB and, whilst I think he could make a competent midfielder, in my opinion he has all of the attributes to make a potential international right back? Is he better than Clyne (as I rated him in the same way) is something I've been wondering. Edited by Helmet46 (01 Feb 2014 11.25pm)
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Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.24pm

Back to the OP's initial comment - could Joel Ward be turned into a better midfielder than he is a RB? This is what happened to Gareth Bale. Personally I don't think so. I like him at RB and, whilst I think he could make a competent midfielder, in my opinion he has all of the attributes to make a potential international right back? Is he better than Clyne (as I rated him in the same way) is something I've been wondering.

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PalaceSi Brockley 01 Feb 14 11.29pm
I agree with the OP and there's no doubt that a player in central midfield has more influence on a game than a full back. Joel has been our best player all season and we've kept a lot of clean sheets with him and jedi protecting the back four. I'd be reluctant to break that up and with time i think Joel could add more to the attacking side and bang in a few, he has come close quite a few times.
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Brockley 01 Feb 14 11.29pm

I agree with the OP and there's no doubt that a player in central midfield has more influence on a game than a full back. Joel has been our best player all season and we've kept a lot of clean sheets with him and jedi protecting the back four.
I'd be reluctant to break that up and with time i think Joel could add more to the attacking side and bang in a few, he has come close quite a few times.

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Helmet46 Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.35pm
Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm I agree with the OP and there's no doubt that a player in central midfield has more influence on a game than a full back. Joel has been our best player all season and we've kept a lot of clean sheets with him and jedi protecting the back four. I'd be reluctant to break that up and with time i think Joel could add more to the attacking side and bang in a few, he has come close quite a few times. That's a fair shout, and I agree he has been superb this season but I always feel far more relaxed with him at RB rather than Mariappa. Edited by Helmet46 (01 Feb 2014 11.36pm)
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Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.35pm

Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm

I agree with the OP and there's no doubt that a player in central midfield has more influence on a game than a full back. Joel has been our best player all season and we've kept a lot of clean sheets with him and jedi protecting the back four.
I'd be reluctant to break that up and with time i think Joel could add more to the attacking side and bang in a few, he has come close quite a few times.

That's a fair shout, and I agree he has been superb this season but I always feel far more relaxed with him at RB rather than Mariappa.

Edited by Helmet46 (01 Feb 2014 11.36pm)

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Calzardi Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.37pm
Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm I agree with the OP and there's no doubt that a player in central midfield has more influence on a game than a full back. Joel has been our best player all season and we've kept a lot of clean sheets with him and jedi protecting the back four. I'd be reluctant to break that up and with time i think Joel could add more to the attacking side and bang in a few, he has come close quite a few times. This. With all the precious people who want to jump down the throats of everyone who makes an opinion, I actually believe the OP has a valid point. Pulis wouldn't play him in CM if he believed he wasn't capable. He played CM for Pompey so in a way, it was US who developed him into a RB in the first place. His natural position I guess is where he feels comfortably embedded with the players he has around him. "DFS are selling Boat Sofa's. They've got a sail on."
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Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.37pm

Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm

This. With all the precious people who want to jump down the throats of everyone who makes an opinion, I actually believe the OP has a valid point. Pulis wouldn't play him in CM if he believed he wasn't capable. He played CM for Pompey so in a way, it was US who developed him into a RB in the first place. His natural position I guess is where he feels comfortably embedded with the players he has around him.

"DFS are selling Boat Sofa's. They've got a sail on."

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Helmet46 Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.42pm
Quote Calzardi at 01 Feb 2014 11.37pm Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm I agree with the OP and there's no doubt that a player in central midfield has more influence on a game than a full back. Joel has been our best player all season and we've kept a lot of clean sheets with him and jedi protecting the back four. I'd be reluctant to break that up and with time i think Joel could add more to the attacking side and bang in a few, he has come close quite a few times. This. With all the precious people who want to jump down the throats of everyone who makes an opinion, I actually believe the OP has a valid point. Pulis wouldn't play him in CM if he believed he wasn't capable. He played CM for Pompey so in a way, it was US who developed him into a RB in the first place. His natural position I guess is where he feels comfortably embedded with the players he has around him. I didn't realise that! I thought we bought him as a Right Back! Shows my ignorance. With Ledley coming in though, I would imagine that TP is looking to drop him back to RB?
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Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.42pm

Quote Calzardi at 01 Feb 2014 11.37pm

Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm

This. With all the precious people who want to jump down the throats of everyone who makes an opinion, I actually believe the OP has a valid point. Pulis wouldn't play him in CM if he believed he wasn't capable. He played CM for Pompey so in a way, it was US who developed him into a RB in the first place. His natural position I guess is where he feels comfortably embedded with the players he has around him.

I didn't realise that! I thought we bought him as a Right Back! Shows my ignorance. With Ledley coming in though, I would imagine that TP is looking to drop him back to RB?

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Mapletree Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.51pm
Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm I agree with the OP and there's no doubt that a player in central midfield has more influence on a game than a full back. Joel has been our best player all season and we've kept a lot of clean sheets with him and jedi protecting the back four. I'd be reluctant to break that up and with time i think Joel could add more to the attacking side and bang in a few, he has come close quite a few times. I think there is a doubt. Right backs these days are wing backs. Hugely influential. Joel is clearly better there than doing the KG role in my view. I have said before, he is a good midfielder. But he was becoming a world class right back.
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Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.51pm

Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm

I think there is a doubt. Right backs these days are wing backs. Hugely influential. Joel is clearly better there than doing the KG role in my view. I have said before, he is a good midfielder. But he was becoming a world class right back.

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Mapletree Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.57pm
Quote Helmet46 at 01 Feb 2014 11.42pm Quote Calzardi at 01 Feb 2014 11.37pm Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm I agree with the OP and there's no doubt that a player in central midfield has more influence on a game than a full back. Joel has been our best player all season and we've kept a lot of clean sheets with him and jedi protecting the back four. I'd be reluctant to break that up and with time i think Joel could add more to the attacking side and bang in a few, he has come close quite a few times. This. With all the precious people who want to jump down the throats of everyone who makes an opinion, I actually believe the OP has a valid point. Pulis wouldn't play him in CM if he believed he wasn't capable. He played CM for Pompey so in a way, it was US who developed him into a RB in the first place. His natural position I guess is where he feels comfortably embedded with the players he has around him. I didn't realise that! I thought we bought him as a Right Back! Shows my ignorance. With Ledley coming in though, I would imagine that TP is looking to drop him back to RB? Just looked him up, amazed to find he is 6 foot 2. Doesn't look it. Apparently his natural position is centre defence. Still sure he is better at right back than CM.
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Croydon 01 Feb 14 11.57pm

Quote Helmet46 at 01 Feb 2014 11.42pm

Quote Calzardi at 01 Feb 2014 11.37pm

Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm

This. With all the precious people who want to jump down the throats of everyone who makes an opinion, I actually believe the OP has a valid point. Pulis wouldn't play him in CM if he believed he wasn't capable. He played CM for Pompey so in a way, it was US who developed him into a RB in the first place. His natural position I guess is where he feels comfortably embedded with the players he has around him.

I didn't realise that! I thought we bought him as a Right Back! Shows my ignorance. With Ledley coming in though, I would imagine that TP is looking to drop him back to RB?

Just looked him up, amazed to find he is 6 foot 2. Doesn't look it. Apparently his natural position is centre defence. Still sure he is better at right back than CM.

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sunnygfrancis Clapham 02 Feb 14 12.16am
Quote Mapletree at 01 Feb 2014 11.57pm Quote Helmet46 at 01 Feb 2014 11.42pm Quote Calzardi at 01 Feb 2014 11.37pm Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm I agree with the OP and there's no doubt that a player in central midfield has more influence on a game than a full back. Joel has been our best player all season and we've kept a lot of clean sheets with him and jedi protecting the back four. I'd be reluctant to break that up and with time i think Joel could add more to the attacking side and bang in a few, he has come close quite a few times. This. With all the precious people who want to jump down the throats of everyone who makes an opinion, I actually believe the OP has a valid point. Pulis wouldn't play him in CM if he believed he wasn't capable. He played CM for Pompey so in a way, it was US who developed him into a RB in the first place. His natural position I guess is where he feels comfortably embedded with the players he has around him. I didn't realise that! I thought we bought him as a Right Back! Shows my ignorance. With Ledley coming in though, I would imagine that TP is looking to drop him back to RB? Just looked him up, amazed to find he is 6 foot 2. Doesn't look it. Apparently his natural position is centre defence. Still sure he is better at right back than CM. On fifa 12 he is listed as a CM for pompey so maybe that was his position Hither Green Darts League [Link]
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Clapham 02 Feb 14 12.16am

Quote Mapletree at 01 Feb 2014 11.57pm

Quote Helmet46 at 01 Feb 2014 11.42pm

Quote Calzardi at 01 Feb 2014 11.37pm

Quote PalaceSi at 01 Feb 2014 11.29pm

This. With all the precious people who want to jump down the throats of everyone who makes an opinion, I actually believe the OP has a valid point. Pulis wouldn't play him in CM if he believed he wasn't capable. He played CM for Pompey so in a way, it was US who developed him into a RB in the first place. His natural position I guess is where he feels comfortably embedded with the players he has around him.

I didn't realise that! I thought we bought him as a Right Back! Shows my ignorance. With Ledley coming in though, I would imagine that TP is looking to drop him back to RB?

Just looked him up, amazed to find he is 6 foot 2. Doesn't look it. Apparently his natural position is centre defence. Still sure he is better at right back than CM.

On fifa 12 he is listed as a CM for pompey so maybe that was his position

Hither Green Darts League [Link]

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 02 Feb 14 12.34am
The best players should play in their best position...we lose something when he isn't at RB As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 02 Feb 14 12.34am

The best players should play in their best position...we lose something when he isn't at RB

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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Username Horsham 02 Feb 14 12.44am
Quote bubble wrap at 01 Feb 2014 10.12pm Quote Beanhead09 at 01 Feb 2014 10.07pm I know where hes been playing... Theres alot of talk on here about people wanting him back at RB. I think he can really develop into a terrific midfeilder, would be awesome to see that transition. Awesome? your American aren't you? Beanhead. Wasted at Full back, he is not playing full back and I cannot see where anyone is saying he should be a FB, Now Dann has joined, this will not happen. Edited by bubble wrap (01 Feb 2014 10.14pm) Eh? There are plenty of people who have asked for him to be back at right back. I'm not sure what the signing of Dann, a solid centre back, has to do with this debate either? Personally, Ward has done very well in midfield. He's neat and tidy and extremely competitive. I still think he'll get some more game time there, but right back would seem to suit him more. Purely because that allows him to run at people and put in crosses more often and he has a lovely delivery on him. Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 02 Feb 14 12.44am

Quote bubble wrap at 01 Feb 2014 10.12pm

Quote Beanhead09 at 01 Feb 2014 10.07pm

I know where hes been playing...
Theres alot of talk on here about people wanting him back at RB. I think he can really develop into a terrific midfeilder, would be awesome to see that transition.

Awesome? your American aren't you? Beanhead.
Wasted at Full back, he is not playing full back and I cannot see where anyone is saying he should be a FB, Now Dann has joined, this will not happen.

Edited by bubble wrap (01 Feb 2014 10.14pm)

Eh? There are plenty of people who have asked for him to be back at right back.

I'm not sure what the signing of Dann, a solid centre back, has to do with this debate either?

Personally, Ward has done very well in midfield. He's neat and tidy and extremely competitive. I still think he'll get some more game time there, but right back would seem to suit him more. Purely because that allows him to run at people and put in crosses more often and he has a lovely delivery on him.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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Ljb Sutton 02 Feb 14 12.59am
He is better at RB than in midfield and clearly not a natural midfielder in terms of going to get the ball from the CBs, but very solid of course. At RB he has been fantastic this season and it would be great to see him back there and Ledley in midfield
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Sutton 02 Feb 14 12.59am

He is better at RB than in midfield and clearly not a natural midfielder in terms of going to get the ball from the CBs, but very solid of course. At RB he has been fantastic this season and it would be great to see him back there and Ledley in midfield

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The Coach Brighton 02 Feb 14 1.02am
I was having this conversation with a friend after the hull game. as good a rb he is, if we are to play him there he is wasted in the style of football we play. You can tell by his brain that he is a midfielder, the only asset he lacks is the ability to turn. This is where he will get found out when playing against better players. That said, he is doing a fantastic job slotting into cm and having to adapt to a partnership with Jedi.
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Brighton 02 Feb 14 1.02am

I was having this conversation with a friend after the hull game.

as good a rb he is, if we are to play him there he is wasted in the style of football we play.

You can tell by his brain that he is a midfielder, the only asset he lacks is the ability to turn. This is where he will get found out when playing against better players. That said, he is doing a fantastic job slotting into cm and having to adapt to a partnership with Jedi.

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