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sydtheeagle England 19 Jan 14 12.11pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 19 Jan 2014 11.59am When have you ever heard the media question a Director of Football? A Director of Football provides all the information and options, whether they think they steer the ship or not. Damien Commolli (spelling may be wrong) was often interviewed when he was at both Spurs and Liverpool. Beguiristan has held media brieifings at Man. City. All of us have heard David Gill responding to questions in his time as Fergie's transfer handler at Man Utd. Ditto Peter Kenyon in Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea. The role is not invisible. It is perhaps a salutary lesson that at those four clubs, the DoF's rather than the chairmen have been the ones to make the occasional comment about transfer policies. In contrast, when have you ever heard John Henry, or Sheikh whatever his name is, or the chairman of Arsenal (don't even know his name), or any of the Glazer's directly comment on their (successful) clubs budget? Three of the four owners of Palace seem happy to be seen and not heard. I suppose I should be thankful for that. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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sydtheeagle

England 19 Jan 14 12.11pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 19 Jan 2014 11.59am

When have you ever heard the media question a Director of Football? A Director of Football provides all the information and options, whether they think they steer the ship or not.

Damien Commolli (spelling may be wrong) was often interviewed when he was at both Spurs and Liverpool. Beguiristan has held media brieifings at Man. City. All of us have heard David Gill responding to questions in his time as Fergie's transfer handler at Man Utd. Ditto Peter Kenyon in Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea. The role is not invisible. It is perhaps a salutary lesson that at those four clubs, the DoF's rather than the chairmen have been the ones to make the occasional comment about transfer policies. In contrast, when have you ever heard John Henry, or Sheikh whatever his name is, or the chairman of Arsenal (don't even know his name), or any of the Glazer's directly comment on their (successful) clubs budget?

Three of the four owners of Palace seem happy to be seen and not heard. I suppose I should be thankful for that.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jan 14 12.31pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 19 Jan 2014 12.11pm Quote Rudi Hedman at 19 Jan 2014 11.59am When have you ever heard the media question a Director of Football? A Director of Football provides all the information and options, whether they think they steer the ship or not. Damien Commolli (spelling may be wrong) was often interviewed when he was at both Spurs and Liverpool. Beguiristan has held media brieifings at Man. City. All of us have heard David Gill responding to questions in his time as Fergie's transfer handler at Man Utd. Ditto Peter Kenyon in Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea. The role is not invisible. It is perhaps a salutary lesson that at those four clubs, the DoF's rather than the chairmen have been the ones to make the occasional comment about transfer policies. In contrast, when have you ever heard John Henry, or Sheikh whatever his name is, or the chairman of Arsenal (don't even know his name), or any of the Glazer's directly comment on their (successful) clubs budget? Three of the four owners of Palace seem happy to be seen and not heard. I suppose I should be thankful for that. You've just listed Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs. They have huge budgets and plans that are based on revenue guaranteed every season. Essentially you are comparing multi-national customer base businesses with a local business. And currently the size we are, Parish can be involved in everything, the people at those clubs cannot. When Parish is asked I'd rather he plays down our budget and spending intentions so when sellers receive the call they don't add £500k or more on top. Wage demands will rarely drop at this level for proven players with time left on contracts unless they've not played Prem football yet. At the end of the day it's not that big an issue what he's said, as long as the players TP is agreeable they're good for the positions and roles he needs. Anything else means sh1t right now. A new player wasn't needed yesterday and Jelavic missed a good chance yesterday. We will need them and we will get them, not to rush them in and drop points. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 Jan 14 12.31pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 19 Jan 2014 12.11pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 19 Jan 2014 11.59am

When have you ever heard the media question a Director of Football? A Director of Football provides all the information and options, whether they think they steer the ship or not.

Three of the four owners of Palace seem happy to be seen and not heard. I suppose I should be thankful for that.

You've just listed Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs. They have huge budgets and plans that are based on revenue guaranteed every season.

Essentially you are comparing multi-national customer base businesses with a local business. And currently the size we are, Parish can be involved in everything, the people at those clubs cannot.

When Parish is asked I'd rather he plays down our budget and spending intentions so when sellers receive the call they don't add £500k or more on top. Wage demands will rarely drop at this level for proven players with time left on contracts unless they've not played Prem football yet.

At the end of the day it's not that big an issue what he's said, as long as the players TP is agreeable they're good for the positions and roles he needs. Anything else means sh1t right now. A new player wasn't needed yesterday and Jelavic missed a good chance yesterday. We will need them and we will get them, not to rush them in and drop points.

COYP

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Plane Bromley 19 Jan 14 12.38pm
Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm I just wish Steve Parish would give it a rest about spending and give us, the fans some credit and realise we all f*in know we are not in the big spenders bracket! I'm sick to the back teeth of him reminding us at every opportunity of the fact we have to be careful with transfer fees and wages, afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f* up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough? I would respectfully suggest Mr Parish that you stay out of the media spotlight and get on with helping Mr Pulis get the players he requires to help us in our quest to remain in this league. Edited by bertshead (19 Jan 2014 12.11pm) They will be the ones that currently make up half the team and the bench most match days?
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Plane

Bromley 19 Jan 14 12.38pm

Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm

I just wish Steve Parish would give it a rest about spending and give us, the fans some credit and realise we all f***in know we are not in the big spenders bracket!
I'm sick to the back teeth of him reminding us at every opportunity of the fact we have to be careful with transfer fees and wages, afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f*** up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough?
I would respectfully suggest Mr Parish that you stay out of the media spotlight and get on with helping Mr Pulis get the players he requires to help us in our quest to remain in this league.

Edited by bertshead (19 Jan 2014 12.11pm)

They will be the ones that currently make up half the team and the bench most match days?

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Andy_G Wimbledon 19 Jan 14 12.41pm
I hope Parish was playing the transfer game because if we don't spend in the next 2 weeks we will most probably go down. If we don't then Pulis may be our greatest ever manager. The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years
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Andy_G

Wimbledon 19 Jan 14 12.41pm

I hope Parish was playing the transfer game because if we don't spend in the next 2 weeks we will most probably go down. If we don't then Pulis may be our greatest ever manager.

The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jan 14 12.51pm
Quote Plane at 19 Jan 2014 12.38pm Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm I just wish Steve Parish would give it a rest about spending and give us, the fans some credit and realise we all f*in know we are not in the big spenders bracket! I'm sick to the back teeth of him reminding us at every opportunity of the fact we have to be careful with transfer fees and wages, afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f* up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough? I would respectfully suggest Mr Parish that you stay out of the media spotlight and get on with helping Mr Pulis get the players he requires to help us in our quest to remain in this league. Edited by bertshead (19 Jan 2014 12.11pm) They will be the ones that currently make up half the team and the bench most match days? There were a couple of areas where we could've spent money elsewhere. Gayle and Campagna possibly as we lack goals and Gayle cannot really start this season and us earn enough points. Dobbie was a promotion commitment. The rest were mainly not disasters. Probably about a quarter of them weren't good options, the rest have either been injured or rushed in with 4 Palace debuts being made. We essentially had the same back 6, all we needed to do was minimise the changes. Millen and now TP are doing it and playing with less emphasis on dictating the game. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 Jan 14 12.51pm

Quote Plane at 19 Jan 2014 12.38pm

Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm

Edited by bertshead (19 Jan 2014 12.11pm)

They will be the ones that currently make up half the team and the bench most match days?

There were a couple of areas where we could've spent money elsewhere. Gayle and Campagna possibly as we lack goals and Gayle cannot really start this season and us earn enough points. Dobbie was a promotion commitment.

The rest were mainly not disasters. Probably about a quarter of them weren't good options, the rest have either been injured or rushed in with 4 Palace debuts being made. We essentially had the same back 6, all we needed to do was minimise the changes. Millen and now TP are doing it and playing with less emphasis on dictating the game.

COYP

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thommo1 Peckham 19 Jan 14 12.52pm
Worse case why cant we stay up without any signings ?? Look where we are now to where we thought we may be and in comparison to at least 6 other sides I cant see a massive difference, team is gelling momentum is building players we have are punching above there weight and rising to the challenge take delaney as one example.. Just saying DJ John Peel once said: "Supporting Palace has a certain cult value, like pretending that some Peruvian rock band is the best in the world."
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thommo1

Peckham 19 Jan 14 12.52pm

Worse case why cant we stay up without any signings ?? Look where we are now to where we thought we may be and in comparison to at least 6 other sides I cant see a massive difference, team is gelling momentum is building players we have are punching above there weight and rising to the challenge take delaney as one example..

Just saying

DJ John Peel once said: "Supporting Palace has a certain cult value, like pretending that some Peruvian rock band is the best in the world."

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jcreedy 19 Jan 14 12.56pm
Quote thommo1 at 19 Jan 2014 12.52pm Worse case why cant we stay up without any signings ?? Look where we are now to where we thought we may be and in comparison to at least 6 other sides I cant see a massive difference, team is gelling momentum is building players we have are punching above there weight and rising to the challenge take delaney as one example.. Just saying What would we do if Gabbidon and Delaney got injured this week? It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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jcreedy

19 Jan 14 12.56pm

Quote thommo1 at 19 Jan 2014 12.52pm

Just saying

What would we do if Gabbidon and Delaney got injured this week?

It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

- John Bostock (Nov 2007)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jan 14 12.57pm
Quote thommo1 at 19 Jan 2014 12.52pm Worse case why cant we stay up without any signings ?? Look where we are now to where we thought we may be and in comparison to at least 6 other sides I cant see a massive difference, team is gelling momentum is building players we have are punching above there weight and rising to the challenge take delaney as one example.. Just saying We don't score enough goals and don't create enough attempts on target. The margins are small. If Charlie Adam's chance fell on his left foot it wouldn't have been 1-0. If Gayle wasn't one on one, it wouldn't have been 0-1 and 3 points at Villa. We've had some luck and made a bit of luck but if we go behind, would you be confident we could come back and win 2-1 or draw 2-2 if behind by 2? Out of Chamakh, Jerome and Gayle, the finishing isn't clinical enough. Don't rely on Murray and being disappointed. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 Jan 14 12.57pm

Quote thommo1 at 19 Jan 2014 12.52pm

Just saying

We don't score enough goals and don't create enough attempts on target. The margins are small. If Charlie Adam's chance fell on his left foot it wouldn't have been 1-0. If Gayle wasn't one on one, it wouldn't have been 0-1 and 3 points at Villa. We've had some luck and made a bit of luck but if we go behind, would you be confident we could come back and win 2-1 or draw 2-2 if behind by 2?

Out of Chamakh, Jerome and Gayle, the finishing isn't clinical enough. Don't rely on Murray and being disappointed.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jan 14 12.58pm
Quote jcreedy at 19 Jan 2014 12.56pm Quote thommo1 at 19 Jan 2014 12.52pm Worse case why cant we stay up without any signings ?? Look where we are now to where we thought we may be and in comparison to at least 6 other sides I cant see a massive difference, team is gelling momentum is building players we have are punching above there weight and rising to the challenge take delaney as one example.. Just saying What would we do if Gabbidon and Delaney got injured this week? Shift players around, upset understanding in more than 1 position and confuse things. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 Jan 14 12.58pm

Quote jcreedy at 19 Jan 2014 12.56pm

Quote thommo1 at 19 Jan 2014 12.52pm

Just saying

What would we do if Gabbidon and Delaney got injured this week?

Shift players around, upset understanding in more than 1 position and confuse things.

COYP

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thommo1 Peckham 19 Jan 14 12.58pm
Probably the same as what we would have done if these two had got injured after the first game of the season. DJ John Peel once said: "Supporting Palace has a certain cult value, like pretending that some Peruvian rock band is the best in the world."
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thommo1

Peckham 19 Jan 14 12.58pm

Probably the same as what we would have done if these two had got injured after the first game of the season.

DJ John Peel once said: "Supporting Palace has a certain cult value, like pretending that some Peruvian rock band is the best in the world."

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peterg Anerley 19 Jan 14 1.08pm
Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm I just wish Steve Parish would give it a rest about spending and give us, the fans some credit and realise we all f*in know we are not in the big spenders bracket! I'm sick to the back teeth of him reminding us at every opportunity of the fact we have to be careful with transfer fees and wages, afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f* up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough? I would respectfully suggest Mr Parish that you stay out of the media spotlight and get on with helping Mr Pulis get the players he requires to help us in our quest to remain in this league. Edited by bertshead (19 Jan 2014 12.11pm) This is just ridiculous. We have a straight-talking owner who tells it like it is. He also happens to be one of four local businessmen who got us out of the mire. He doesn't hog the limelight, he went on BBC to answer questions that the fans were raising. Compare him with aggressive thugs like Ken Bates, or even Ron Noades, and he comes across as a decent fair-minded bloke who has saved the club once and doesn't want to lose a fortune like Jordan and Goldberg. Which particular clown would you prefer as owner? Vincent Tan? Mike Ashley? The right place at the right time
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peterg

Anerley 19 Jan 14 1.08pm

Quote bertshead at 19 Jan 2014 12.02pm

I just wish Steve Parish would give it a rest about spending and give us, the fans some credit and realise we all f***in know we are not in the big spenders bracket!
I'm sick to the back teeth of him reminding us at every opportunity of the fact we have to be careful with transfer fees and wages, afterall was it not he and the last manager who managed to royally f*** up the last window and sign a bucketload of players who are not good enough?
I would respectfully suggest Mr Parish that you stay out of the media spotlight and get on with helping Mr Pulis get the players he requires to help us in our quest to remain in this league.

Edited by bertshead (19 Jan 2014 12.11pm)

This is just ridiculous. We have a straight-talking owner who tells it like it is. He also happens to be one of four local businessmen who got us out of the mire. He doesn't hog the limelight, he went on BBC to answer questions that the fans were raising. Compare him with aggressive thugs like Ken Bates, or even Ron Noades, and he comes across as a decent fair-minded bloke who has saved the club once and doesn't want to lose a fortune like Jordan and Goldberg. Which particular clown would you prefer as owner? Vincent Tan? Mike Ashley?

The right place at the right time

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effingham 19 Jan 14 1.12pm
Juan Mata has a Spanish agent-his Dad
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effingham

19 Jan 14 1.12pm

Juan Mata has a Spanish agent-his Dad

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