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 dannyh  wherever I lay my hat....... 27 Jul 16 2.04pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
That's soon last week that one. Yesterday actually.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 27 Jul 16 2.22pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Had they won back a council seat off of UKIP? 5 minutes ago, the results of local elections were used as a stick to beat Corbyn with. You can't have it both ways. Also it's entirely different spinning an election result than it is putting out a negative spin against Corbyn in 'officegate' or the numerous other non stories that have been anti Corbyn but totally without evidence or even a semblance of truth.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Jul 16 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The problem is that although the PLP might be out of touch with the membership, the membership are out of touch with the majority opinion. Some would say reality. That's not who they're supposed to represent though. Its like being a member of a club, that refuses to let you in, because the non-members object to you. Now I agree, that an MP must also represent their constituents. But of course the problem Labour has had is that its lost its membership numbers over the last 15-20 years, something that Corbyn has reversed. I don't think they'll win an election, but, then neither did the last two leaders who the PLP put up and backed.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 27 Jul 16 2.26pm |
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Also a straight answer to the following questions please Nick 1) Do you think it right that Corbyn voted against Labour than David Cameron 2) That he seems to have changed his mind that the Labour leader should face re-election every year 3) Given his previous lack of loyalty to party leaders, he is now threatening deselection to anyone who votes against him?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jul 16 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by OldFella
Corbyn and Gusset, the dream ticket. Not many votes, but some great laughs. Last year's leadership election was anti austerity vs austerity lite vs austerity. Corbyn won hands down. Look at what Owens pledges were, anti austerity. Both sides of the leadership contest this time are anti austerity pro investment.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jul 16 3.37pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
That's not who they're supposed to represent though. Its like being a member of a club, that refuses to let you in, because the non-members object to you. Now I agree, that an MP must also represent their constituents. But of course the problem Labour has had is that its lost its membership numbers over the last 15-20 years, something that Corbyn has reversed. I don't think they'll win an election, but, then neither did the last two leaders who the PLP put up and backed. Let me just say that I am delighted that Labour are on a suicide mission. They have been a disastrous party for this country since Harold Wilson.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jul 16 4.37pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Also a straight answer to the following questions please Nick 1) Do you think it right that Corbyn voted against Labour than David Cameron 2) That he seems to have changed his mind that the Labour leader should face re-election every year 3) Given his previous lack of loyalty to party leaders, he is now threatening deselection to anyone who votes against him? Not sure what the missing word is in the first one. Someone changes mind shocker. The third one isn't actually a question! We should be glad that some mps question their own party's policy surely. Haven't heard about the threats to deselect MP's. Is this a real thing or an out of context comment used to create a false narrative about Corbyn that turns out to be bollocks anyway. We've seen plenty of those 'stories' of late. Edited by nickgusset (27 Jul 2016 4.39pm)
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| Stuk Top half 27 Jul 16 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Not sure what the missing word is in the first one. Someone changes mind shocker. The third one isn't actually a question! We should be glad that some mps question their own party's policy surely. Haven't heard about the threats to deselect MP's. Is this a real thing or an out of context comment used to create a false narrative about Corbyn that turns out to be bollocks anyway. We've seen plenty of those 'stories' of late. Edited by nickgusset (27 Jul 2016 4.39pm) I'd guess it is "more".
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| Stuk Top half 27 Jul 16 5.06pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Not sure what the missing word is in the first one. Someone changes mind shocker. The third one isn't actually a question! We should be glad that some mps question their own party's policy surely. Haven't heard about the threats to deselect MP's. Is this a real thing or an out of context comment used to create a false narrative about Corbyn that turns out to be bollocks anyway. We've seen plenty of those 'stories' of late. Edited by nickgusset (27 Jul 2016 4.39pm) Are you joking?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jul 16 7.29pm |
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That's not deselection. That's putting them against other would be candidates selected by individual CLP's. Far too often, mp's have gained their position from being given safe constituencies even though they might never have been there before!
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| Stuk Top half 27 Jul 16 8.16pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
That's not deselection. That's putting them against other would be candidates selected by individual CLP's. Far too often, mp's have gained their position from being given safe constituencies even though they might never have been there before! You're not that naive or thick. Mandatory re-selection is the same as deselection. It's not about living in their constituencies, it's about getting rid of MPs in the labour party that oppose him. Which is the vast majority of them.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jul 16 8.42pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
You're not that naive or thick. Mandatory re-selection is the same as deselection. It's not about living in their constituencies, it's about getting rid of MPs in the labour party that oppose him. Which is the vast majority of them. Can we put that to a vote as well?
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