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davenotamonkey Flag 28 Aug 19 4.23pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

"Reichstag" is now trending on Twitter. Not even making it up!

...and now "Dictatorship". It's just too funny

I agree with Darren:

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Aug 19 4.27pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Stupid idiot

The Queen does not. How dare he impute that of the Queen. Tw*t.

She had no option given the precedent.

Correct.

I don't believe that comment comes from JRM. The Queen is politically neutral and follows precedent. Her decision does not endorse Brexit but is based on advice from her PM.

JRM knows that and whenever I hear him interviewed he always chooses his words carefully.

If he did tweet those words then he should be in big trouble and at the minimum should make a public apology for dragging the monarchy into party politics.

Like I say I don't believe he's done that.

Update: Just looked at that tweet again. Its a site set up by JRM supporters and "independent" of him. So he didn't say it whoever did though is just plain wrong.

Edited by Badger11 (28 Aug 2019 4.34pm)

 


One more point

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Stirlingsays Flag 28 Aug 19 4.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Feckin read will you!

I am saying we screwed up long before each started. You must know the history.

Make the right steps at an earlier point you don't get backed into a corner. But people have an annoying habit of 'forgetting' the damage and pain, it's all jolly exciting, hoorah chaps.

As you know my grandfather was blown up, returned to hospital in England, got patched up, went back to France, got blown up again. I learned at his (artificial) knee that it was a failure of monumental proportions to get to that point. My father survived Tobruk and Monte Casino and then became best friends with a German soldier. Too many people on both sides sat on their hands as this brewed up, they didn't really care as war is really all glory and heroics.

Sigh.....you finished making those Molotov cocktails up yet?

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Aug 19 4.36pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sigh.....you finished making those Molotov cocktails up yet?

If it goes quiet on hear it's because the Remainers are gathering outside Parliament tonight.

No doubt we will be having another march / petition.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Aug 19 4.38pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Of course I know....Germany is a relatively new country by European standards.

Those states weren't forced creations like East Germany.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Aug 2019 4.21pm)

I didn't say they were. I said if each of the 16 States is independent like Scotland then the same logic would apply. Presumably in your mind they are going to go independent one day.

Alternatively there is no inherent reason why Scotland (and Wales and Northern Ireland) could not have significant amounts of self-governing without jeopardising the UK. It's just they get annoyed when daft things are done for which they have to carry the can.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 28 Aug 19 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If it goes quiet on hear it's because the Remainers are gathering outside Parliament tonight.

No doubt we will be having another march / petition.

Now they get a taste.

Perhaps they should be made to wait forty years as well.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Aug 19 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If it goes quiet on hear it's because the Remainers are gathering outside Parliament tonight.

No doubt we will be having another march / petition.

Petition has reached 470k as we write

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 28 Aug 19 4.40pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

So my money is on a rehashed deal which can be made to look different from May's.

Cummings may now have the whip hand, for both the EU and Parliament the choice appears to be agree a new deal, hurriedly re-drawn, or there will be a crash out.

I see no chance at all that Johnson wants a no-deal, which is why Farage is trying to force him into that channel.

In reality it is what he always promised he would do.


I hope you're right in that it forces the EU's hand and gets them 'meaningfully' back around the table...the ball is very much in their court now as to whether Brexit is a 'No deal' exit or not

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 28 Aug 19 4.40pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Feckin read will you!

I am saying we screwed up long before each started. You must know the history.

Make the right steps at an earlier point you don't get backed into a corner. But people have an annoying habit of 'forgetting' the damage and pain, it's all jolly exciting, hoorah chaps.

As you know my grandfather was blown up, returned to hospital in England, got patched up, went back to France, got blown up again. I learned at his (artificial) knee that it was a failure of monumental proportions to get to that point. My father survived Tobruk and Monte Casino and then became best friends with a German soldier. Too many people on both sides sat on their hands as this brewed up, they didn't really care as war is really all glory and heroics.

I think you will find that the average Joe on both sides were not fighting for a cause.
Most were fighting to keep alive.
My father too survived Monte Casino, and fighting rommel in north Africa.
And the o ly ones who take glory from wars,are the generals,and such.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Aug 19 4.41pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sigh.....you finished making those Molotov cocktails up yet?

I am moving onto milk shakes. Apparently far more dangerous.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Aug 19 5.06pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

I think you will find that the average Joe on both sides were not fighting for a cause.
Most were fighting to keep alive.
My father too survived Monte Casino, and fighting rommel in north Africa.
And the o ly ones who take glory from wars,are the generals,and such.

Absolutely agree.

Maybe when finally they took a look at the concentration camps they realised what it was all about

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Aug 19 5.07pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

I think you will find that the average Joe on both sides were not fighting for a cause.
Most were fighting to keep alive.
My father too survived Monte Casino, and fighting rommel in north Africa.
And the o ly ones who take glory from wars,are the generals,and such.

Dispatch rider in the 8th army by the way. Sounds like yours had similar history in terms of location. Ended up in Austria as occupying troops.

 

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