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 Mapletree  Croydon 28 Aug 19 3.03pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Academics are not impartial observers. They want access to the EU gravy train in research funding. I'm sure you can look up how that money is being spent. What, Hansard? Don't be daft.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 28 Aug 19 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Don't agree The turnout was reasonable. The 18 to 25 year olds were at 64% turnout. The last GE was 69% overall. Remember that a majority of those working full-time or part-time voted to remain in the EU; most of those not working voted to leave. The over 65s almost all turned out, but then they don't have jobs and such busy lives in the most part. So this is really an over 65s initiative, who of course don't feel directly the economic pain. I have to say most people didn't realise the danger that such a skewed turnout would deliver something that wasn't in line with the overall thinking of the population. If they had then maybe it would have been a 90% plus turnout in all age groups. That would certainly have been a substantial Remain majority.
Do you know if there any for how those who didn't vote would have done?
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| Lyons550 Shirley 28 Aug 19 3.06pm |
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Just been approved by Lizzie!
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Aug 19 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Ah, all the academics who study politics are wrong then. Good to know, thanks for that input. All of them? I didn't realise there was a consensus opinion seems divided from the articles I have read. Yesterday the Remainers were discussing how they can seize control of the Parliamentary timetable. The government sets the timetable which Johnson has just done. If the opposition don't like it they can vote the government and its timetable down all of this is in the hands of the MPs. I don't see anything unconstitutional in this but of course I am not an expert. Where I would have disagreed with Boris is if he tried to stop Parliament meeting before Nov 1 that would have been out of order. It's time for the opposition to either accept the result of the referendum or force a GE.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Aug 19 3.12pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
What, Hansard? Don't be daft. All academics and all third level institutions. They are all officially remain - it is in their vested interests. Overseas students and EU funding - surely you can see that? If any academic has a contrary view they had better keep quiet - or face a barrage of abuse from their all-knowing peers.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Aug 19 3.13pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Just been approved by Lizzie! Gosh I love that woman. The older I get the more I love / respect her. For those who think it is wrong The BBC website is being surprising impartial in its reporting and analysis putting the arguments for and against, wonders never cease.
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| elgrande bedford 28 Aug 19 3.31pm |
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Only thing I will say,why does a trading bloc need an army,a flag and an anthem.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 28 Aug 19 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Just been approved by Lizzie! Excellent. Now i hope Boris blocades the ports of those bully/cowards in the EU. A bit of Falklands gumption is required here. The EU will last 6 hours before they capitulate.
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| dannyboy1978 28 Aug 19 3.36pm |
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Originally posted by Jway89
This just shows the ignorance pretty much everyone in this country/planet is displaying. My question would be this to the Brexiteers. If Bojo managed to get freedom of movement cancelled as his deal, would you all be happy with that? We have politicians whose job is to be politicians. Just think about that. They have no skills apart from politics. The only thing they know is how to divide people by pitting them all against each other, whilst the super wealthy get what they want. How many bankers were jailed from the calamity of 2008? How much tax has Facebook, Amazon, Starbucks paid? If the economy is recovering why are interest rates so low? why has the stock market dropped about 10% in 1 year? I'm neither pro/against Brexit. What I'm for is issues being dealt with by politicians. I would be quite confident that if the Queen could dissolve Parliament, we would not notice the difference. Cameron tried that and that's why we are in this mess. Firmly on the EU'S door mat.
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| Deleted11 28 Aug 19 3.38pm | |
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So, what exactly was it for you? BTW, I'm not accusing you or any Brexiteer of racism. I see the benefits of of both in and out, but, imo, taking back control to me doesn't seem like a valid argument. What will we be in control of? Our Economy will tank in the next year or so, but not because we left the EU, it will tank because the actual politicians we are entrusting to deliver Brexit are the actual people that have already destroyed this economy. Originally posted by davenotamonkey
No, I was never motivated particularly by immigration - it's a handy hook to accuse Brexiteers with "Racism" (sigh), "Bigotry" (yawn) and "Xenophobia" (snore). Nor was it the strongest motivation for those that voted to leave. This is evidenced by probably the most accurate exit poll available, before the media hysteria and post-vote propaganda started ramping up:
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johnno42000  28 Aug 19 3.45pm |
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I don't think the Queen had any option. To me this is very wrong but it is just as wrong to argue to remain, both are affronts to the democratic process (I voted remain but we lost).
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| DANGERCLOSE London 28 Aug 19 3.48pm |
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