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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Roy out. It’s time. Forget all the arguments either way, now or the end of this season is the time for change. This is a premier league club that needs to move forward to the next era and that requires a new manager and we need it now. You think we need it now.
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Originally posted by PatrickA
Perhaps we should give Roy a five year deal after all for fear of losing him - So who stepped up to the next level? I'll narrow it down to 'since the Premier League began'. Even though FFP and other restrictions have been implemented since.
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
It's blatantly obvious that Pulis's achievement is greater than Hodgson's - he didn't have Wilf, and it has been acknowledged on here that without him we'd be toast, an opinion backed up by stats - when Wilf doesn't play we do less well. Edited by southnorwoodhill (30 Jan 2021 9.02pm)
We can work fine without him the problem is we have a rigid system which is focused on one method Eze already is a much better player then Wilf. Those so called stats are meaningless look at all the games we lost with him playing yet no one mentions this and how lazy he is now his assists and goals for a so called top player are laughable plus his constant losing his rag like a child top players don't do this. Had Roy been given unlimited resources it wouldn't matter the same old football would still be played and he has no interest in transfers himself (Our club still reeks of amateurs setup, SP himself is like an iffy used cars sales man) SP has made way more then he ever put into the club so for him staying in the league is a positive but a time will come that unless something changes we could be in trouble just think all those players out of contract this year if they all walked for nothing that is almost half the squad gone. I do like Roy but he is now not the right guy AP did more for this club then he has done in the background.
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Originally posted by kevlee
I doubt there is anyone who thinks Roy should be in charge next season. He should see out this season and there should be a process already in place for a successor. I hope its not one of the usual suspects - Moyes, Howe, Dyche and definitely not serial loser Silva. But Roy has done a great job overall and should be thanked. Its just time to go at the end of the season.
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
So who stepped up to the next level? I'll narrow it down to 'since the Premier League began'. Even though FFP and other restrictions have been implemented since.
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For me it's not a question of stepping up to the 'next level.'
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I've a lot of time for the answer Hodgson gives to the first question here.. He could even be talking to this thread!
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
I've a lot of time for the answer Hodgson gives to the first question here.. He could even be talking to this thread! Yep. But on this thread, it will be seen as negative. Ergo, "Roy out". Only a win is not enough now. We need to be winning easily. These teams are "for the taking".
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Originally posted by grumpymort
We can work fine without him the problem is we have a rigid system which is focused on one method Eze already is a much better player then Wilf. Those so called stats are meaningless look at all the games we lost with him playing yet no one mentions this and how lazy he is now his assists and goals for a so called top player are laughable plus his constant losing his rag like a child top players don't do this. Had Roy been given unlimited resources it wouldn't matter the same old football would still be played and he has no interest in transfers himself (Our club still reeks of amateurs setup, SP himself is like an iffy used cars sales man) SP has made way more then he ever put into the club so for him staying in the league is a positive but a time will come that unless something changes we could be in trouble just think all those players out of contract this year if they all walked for nothing that is almost half the squad gone. I do like Roy but he is now not the right guy AP did more for this club then he has done in the background. We are in the best league in the world, you do realise this don't you. Mr Hodgson got us out of a mess and he is still getting our squad out of a mess, you seem to fail to understand the issues facing our club at the moment.
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Originally posted by PatrickA
For me it's not a question of stepping up to the 'next level.' That is the next level lol, it's called consistency.
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
I've a lot of time for the answer Hodgson gives to the first question here.. He could even be talking to this thread! We are very fortunate to have him.
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Unless the US investors or SP are going to set aside significant investment, I would prefer we stayed with Roy. I feel Roy is the scapegoat for everything behind the scenes. When he took over, the club was in a f***ing mess. The club had accrued huge debt and massive wages. We had just paid a manager 3 years salary for 10 weeks work and started the season losing four games in a row. Nevertheless, Roy has kept us competitive and despite limited funding, the club is in much better shape. We have had the odd mini scare but we have been comfortably safe throughout his tenure. He could of walked, but just gets on with it. I mean what other manager would accept a rb being sold for 50m but then not replaced. I mean, scandalous. We have 13-14 players out of contract (not Roy’s fault), yet Roy is tasked with motivating these players to keep them in the league. Of all the 20 prem teams, it has to be one of the least attractive jobs. If there is just 10-15m made available in summer, what do we expect. How can anyone realistically see us pushing on when we are doing the bare minimum, Apart from Eze, our transfer strategy is ‘mainly’ to buy washed up players on the cheap (or free) with the ‘last chance you’ philosophy. Some do well, some not so well. For me, it’s stick with Roy. Enjoy the premier league until fans can come back in and hope the Americans sell up soon.
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