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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Apr 20 10.21am |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
The second we relax and allow people to go out could result in people becoming infected because we basically have no idea who is carrying it or not (only testing the sick in hospital) do we even know if people who are immune now and have been for many weeks are still able to carry this virus and spread it through touch from someone they have just been with who are infected? ..my guess is yes they are because that seems to me quite obvious ..so how do we ever relax and how do we do the relaxing? ..and than with this the police force will be even more tough won't they ...resulting in even more backlash from the public! The 'Mood music' appears to be that at some juncture there will be phased approach to the easing of restrictions but with social-distancing still at the core of what is required. I of course am not privy to any information as to what consideration has been given to the various options in the 'Corridors of power' and whether an exit strategy has been fully developed.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 08 Apr 20 10.23am |
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Originally posted by Willo
This was not a recommendation advanced by Professor Jonathan Van-Tam, Deputy Chief Medical Officer for England in one of the daily briefings. He said he does not believe healthy people wearing them would reduce the spread of the disease in the UK, saying "what matters now is social distancing". Who are the healthy ones? lol
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 08 Apr 20 10.30am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
What has an eighties pop group got to do with it? Probably because we're on a road to nowhere
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| Stirlingsays 08 Apr 20 11.59am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Now 591 dead. Another 114. Pro rata about 3000 compared to us. Liberty given and life taken. Sweden haven't gone into lockdown Cryrst. Also, their approach is the normal approach to viruses....lockdowns of healthy people are completely new. Sweden haven't gone down this route, they aren't supporting illiberal powers shaming people for sunbathing in the park. They haven't fared worse deaths wise and aren't facing economic consequences. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2020 12.03pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 08 Apr 20 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
do we even know if people who are immune now and have been for many weeks are still able to carry this virus and spread it through touch from someone they have just been with who are infected? "If you had mild respiratory symptoms from COVID-19 and were staying at home so as not to infect people, extend your quarantine for another two weeks after recovery to ensure that you don't infect other people," recommended corresponding author Lixin Xie, MD, professor, College of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Chinese PLA General Hospital, Beijing. The authors had a special message for the medical community: "COVID-19 patients can be infectious even after their symptomatic recovery, so treat the asymptomatic/recently recovered patients as carefully as symptomatic patients."
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Apr 20 1.47pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
"If you had mild respiratory symptoms from COVID-19 and were staying at home so as not to infect people, extend your quarantine for another two weeks after recovery to ensure that you don't infect other people," recommended corresponding author Lixin Xie, MD, professor, College of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Chinese PLA General Hospital, Beijing. The authors had a special message for the medical community: "COVID-19 patients can be infectious even after their symptomatic recovery, so treat the asymptomatic/recently recovered patients as carefully as symptomatic patients." I’d bet a lot that hasn’t been followed.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Apr 20 1.58pm |
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As per a provision of the 'UK Corporate Governance Code'(UKCG Code),I was sent a notice of an AGM (Received today by post) scheduled to take place in May at the 'Excel Centre' in London .I somewhat doubt this will take place!
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 08 Apr 20 2.00pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Now 591 dead. Another 114. Pro rata about 3000 compared to us. Liberty given and life taken. Having seen the carnage in Italy and Spain and now us they have rightly tried to do things differently in order to save lives, it is different for them because of population size and areas where people are far less congested compared to Italy, Spain and us ...control is and was always going to be easier for Sweden, they have now placed themselves on a boat with no known destination whatsoever, at least we know what to expect with having observed others. Like us they will have to keep their vulnerable safe for possibly over a year until a vaccine is found.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Apr 20 2.02pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sweden haven't gone into lockdown Cryrst. Also, their approach is the normal approach to viruses....lockdowns of healthy people are completely new. Sweden haven't gone down this route, they aren't supporting illiberal powers shaming people for sunbathing in the park. They haven't fared worse deaths wise and aren't facing economic consequences. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2020 12.03pm) The article makes a good case for Sweden’s strategy working in Scandinavian countries. It doesn’t make a good case for it working in London, Birmingham. Manchester etc. When Brits go for a drink they choose binge drinking to get hammered or have a close chat at the bar. In Sweden they currently politely wait to be served at the table. People at work in Britain struggle or don’t bother to social distance. In Sweden et al they spend high on tax and society. In Britain we have agency workers spreading Coronavirus from care home to care home. What happens when the grandparents of children have to look after the children of those back to work? There are far too many ignorant people in Britain unfortunately. I’d like it to all end now but there’s so many selfish and stupid people around you just know they’d fvck it up and start blaming for ending the lockdown. There are already people blaming the delay on the lockdown.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Apr 20 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The article makes a good case for Sweden’s strategy working in Scandinavian countries. It doesn’t make a good case for it working in London, Birmingham. Manchester etc. When Brits go for a drink they choose binge drinking to get hammered or have a close chat at the bar. In Sweden they currently politely wait to be served at the table. People at work in Britain struggle or don’t bother to social distance. In Sweden et al they spend high on tax and society. In Britain we have agency workers spreading Coronavirus from care home to care home. What happens when the grandparents of children have to look after the children of those back to work? There are far too many ignorant people in Britain unfortunately. I’d like it to all end now but there’s so many selfish and stupid people around you just know they’d fvck it up and start blaming for ending the lockdown. There are already people blaming the delay on the lockdown. While there are always some truths to stereotypes I think you are stretching some here. When I mention Japan, I get told that their cultural behaviours can't be compared....when I mention Sweden I'm hearing more reasons. I don't want to retread a lot of old ground on this about population density and so on....cities and rural areas. But I think there will be an answer. Sweden's approach hasn't been adopted by other similarly sized and behaved Scandinavian countries....So if you think your stereotypes matter that much we will even be able to compare and contrast on that at the end Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2020 2.15pm)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Apr 20 2.15pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The article makes a good case for Sweden’s strategy working in Scandinavian countries. It doesn’t make a good case for it working in London, Birmingham. Manchester etc. When Brits go for a drink they choose binge drinking to get hammered or have a close chat at the bar. In Sweden they currently politely wait to be served at the table. What happens when the grandparents of children have to look after the children of those back to work? There are far too many ignorant people in Britain unfortunately. I’d like it to all end now but there’s so many selfish and stupid people around you just know they’d fvck it up and start blaming for ending the lockdown. There are already people blaming the delay on the lockdown. One of the measures which might be introduced as part of a relaxation of the 'Lockdown' is for public houses to open but customers are NOT permitted at the bar and have to be seated at tables for table service with the tables spaced well apart as per the social-distancing instructions.NO standing and drinking in public house gardens or outside in front of these establishments in the summer months with customers required to be seated. Furthermore, restaurants and cafes could be required to space tables apart as per above. Edited by Willo (08 Apr 2020 2.17pm)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 08 Apr 20 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
One of the measures which might be introduced as part of a relaxation of the 'Lockdown' is for public houses to open but customers are NOT permitted at the bar and have to be seated at tables for table service with the tables spaced well apart as per the social-distancing instructions.NO standing and drinking in public house gardens or outside in front of these establishments in the summer months with customers required to be seated. Furthermore, restaurants and cafes could be required to space tables apart as per above. Edited by Willo (08 Apr 2020 2.17pm) You maybe right but those rules will not be adhered to by the drinking public.
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