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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm not sure how you can seriously quibble over caring over the detail of what kind of leave is enacted as you have been arguing for that vote to be ignored. The form of 'leave' was for the politicians to sort out. The high stakes 'leave means remain' contingent mostly amongst the left within parliament has meant that a 'no deal' form of leave looks most likely. If 'remainers' had respected the referendum result they might have had May's terrible.....'practically not leaving' deal.....No one on either side really wanted that deal. Now we get 'no deal'....or what the EU come up with in mid to late October in their last ditch attempt to stop Britain proving that independence from the EU can, in fact, be successfully enacted. Few had 'no deal' as their preferred result but I'm certainly far happier about it than I was with May's deal.
Did you read the link to the Leave leaflet? It was absolutely clear we would have a new trading relationship with the EU. And that isn't not a key element to why people voted as they did. Along with £350m per week for the NHS and getting rid of immigration. Edited by Mapletree (23 Aug 2019 1.46pm)
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Originally posted by Spiderman
You should have told Tony Blair that! Tbf every PM from Pitt onwards should have been told.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
It isn't only Renainers. We all lose when this hits the fan. The idea of winners and losers was always a fallacy and should never have happened, pitting people against each other. And an increasing number of people are realising that and realising they don't want a no deal Brexit in particular. Where is the justice for the majority of British people? As usual we end up living in and on the past. If you don't believe the majority would now go for Remain, let's have another plebiscite to find out. God, you are boring.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Did you read the link to the Leave leaflet? It was absolutely clear we would have a new trading relationship with the EU. And that isn't not a key element to why people voted as they did. Along with £350m per week for the NHS and getting rid of immigration. Edited by Mapletree (23 Aug 2019 1.46pm) We will. We will arrange to have no deal or a better one that is currently being offered.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We will. We will arrange to have no deal or a better one that is currently being offered. That is not what was promised, it was an bilateral agreement not simply World Trade terms. Please read the Leave leaflet.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
That is not what was promised, it was an bilateral agreement not simply World Trade terms. Please read the Leave leaflet. Does this mean you might have voted leave instead?
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Sack him
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Agreed only the government should be allowed to conduct foreign policy the US even has a law about that. Undermining your own government is close to treason. Fair enough to campaign for your point of view and even vote your government down but to actively work with a foreign power against that your of own government is treachery.
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Originally posted by Badger11
Agreed only the government should be allowed to conduct foreign policy the US even has a law about that. Undermining your own government is close to treason. Fair enough to campaign for your point of view and even vote your government down but to actively work with a foreign power against that your of own government is treachery. We didn't vote for Johnston we can undermine him all day long.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
We didn't vote for Johnston we can undermine him all day long. We have a government if Corbyn gets enough votes to remove it fair enough. It is not acceptable to conduct a shadow foreign policy when the government is negotiating with that party.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
That is not what was promised, it was an bilateral agreement not simply World Trade terms. Please read the Leave leaflet. None of this has any bearing on reality, but don't let that stop you trying to find some moral high ground to cling to.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
We didn't vote for Johnston we can undermine him all day long. What a load of tosh. The country voted Tory. You Lefty Remainers really are a desperate bunch.
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