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southnorwoodhill Flag 30 Jan 21 8.48pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

The statements that Pulls and Allardyce would not have played AWB or Mitchell, and that Hodgson is a superior manager to both are opinions, not facts.
To my mind the greatest achievement in keeping us up was the one engineered by Pulis with essentially a Championship squad.
But that is an opinion and not a fact.
And possibly not a popular opinion because of the way he left and the perception that he is not a gentleman.

It's blatantly obvious that Pulis's achievement is greater than Hodgson's - he didn't have Wilf, and it has been acknowledged on here that without him we'd be toast, an opinion backed up by stats - when Wilf doesn't play we do less well.
I think Hodgson did exceptionally well in his first season, and credit where credit is due, has kept us up on a budget. That said I think the club in its current guise has run its course, and change is upon us, unless of course Parish is satisfied with diminishing returns - 11th / 12th / 14th - and this season?
I guess it depends on what results Hodgson grinds out for the rest of the season and what Parish has in mind for next season.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (30 Jan 2021 9.02pm)

 

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 30 Jan 21 9.00pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

The heavy spending during 2016-17 under Pardew and Allardyce, and age of the players signed, is pretty much the reason why we find ourselves in the position we are now IMO.

Whilst I felt he did well at the time, I think the job Allardyce did is massively overstated by some now.

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 30 Jan 21 9.32pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Roy out. It’s time. Forget all the arguments either way, now or the end of this season is the time for change.
I don’t really care whether we are comfortable or struggling, it’s still time for the old boy to depart.

This is a premier league club that needs to move forward to the next era and that requires a new manager and we need it now.

 

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EagleinSF Flag San Fransisco 30 Jan 21 9.39pm Send a Private Message to EagleinSF Add EagleinSF as a friend

I think Roy will stay until the Yanks sell up. He's proven that he can keep us up on a shoestring budget - even if the football is turgid.

Until the yanks sell we're in limbo - there will be no investment and we'll limp along until they sell or we get relegated.

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 30 Jan 21 9.39pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

The heavy spending during 2016-17 under Pardew and Allardyce, and age of the players signed, is pretty much the reason why we find ourselves in the position we are now IMO.

Whilst I felt he did well at the time, I think the job Allardyce did is massively overstated by some now.

Amen.

Selective memory of the home thumping by Sunderland and the never explained manner of his departure.

And let's not forget all the credit he got for the best transfer window that the club had done full due diligence on for months before fatty was even considered for the post

 

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kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 30 Jan 21 9.41pm Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Roy out. It’s time. Forget all the arguments either way, now or the end of this season is the time for change.
I don’t really care whether we are comfortable or struggling, it’s still time for the old boy to depart.

This is a premier league club that needs to move forward to the next era and that requires a new manager and we need it now.

I doubt there is anyone who thinks Roy should be in charge next season. He should see out this season and there should be a process already in place for a successor. I hope its not one of the usual suspects - Moyes, Howe, Dyche and definitely not serial loser Silva. But Roy has done a great job overall and should be thanked. Its just time to go at the end of the season.
And I will take the 3 points today.

 


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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 30 Jan 21 9.56pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

It's blatantly obvious that Pulis's achievement is greater than Hodgson's - he didn't have Wilf, and it has been acknowledged on here that without him we'd be toast, an opinion backed up by stats - when Wilf doesn't play we do less well.
I think Hodgson did exceptionally well in his first season, and credit where credit is due, has kept us up on a budget. That said I think the club in its current guise has run its course, and change is upon us, unless of course Parish is satisfied with diminishing returns - 11th / 12th / 14th - and this season?
I guess it depends on what results Hodgson grinds out for the rest of the season and what Parish has in mind for next season.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (30 Jan 2021 9.02pm)

No, it's not obvious. Pulis did it for less than a season. Not three seasons. He also didn't want to have Wilf Zaha back. You are blatantly twisting truth.

 


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AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 30 Jan 21 9.59pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

Moyes and Howe not good enough?

Pep isn't available, but Zidane may well be in the summer!

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 30 Jan 21 9.59pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Roy out. It’s time. Forget all the arguments either way, now or the end of this season is the time for change.
I don’t really care whether we are comfortable or struggling, it’s still time for the old boy to depart.

This is a premier league club that needs to move forward to the next era and that requires a new manager and we need it now.

Like Charlton? Or Bolton maybe? Or how about Pompey? That kind of change?

 


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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 30 Jan 21 10.03pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Amen.

Selective memory of the home thumping by Sunderland and the never explained manner of his departure.

And let's not forget all the credit he got for the best transfer window that the club had done full due diligence on for months before fatty was even considered for the post

Apart from his first game, the 1-1 draw away to Watford on Boxing Day, which we would have won were it not for Benteke's horrible penalty miss, I remember being shocked by the lack of improvement when he came in.

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 30 Jan 21 10.17pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

I doubt there is anyone who thinks Roy should be in charge next season. He should see out this season and there should be a process already in place for a successor. I hope its not one of the usual suspects - Moyes, Howe, Dyche and definitely not serial loser Silva. But Roy has done a great job overall and should be thanked. Its just time to go at the end of the season.
And I will take the 3 points today.

I think Hodgson should stay until such time as evidently better manager is available to us. That's how it should work surely?

 

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PatrickA Flag London 30 Jan 21 10.18pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Perhaps we should give Roy a five year deal after all for fear of losing him -
if the only alternative is to become like Bolton, Charlton or Portsmouth.
Quite a big if though.

 

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