I saw it too and felt exactly the same ...sorry for the people involved and sad at the outcome rather than outraged by the stupidity of it all. What a world we live in!!!!

Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

Not at all; the poor woman who was vainly attempting to get the party members (and serving councillors) to not say deranged things in front of camera certainly deserved sympathy. The UKIP woman councillor who said "I'm not racist, I just can't abide Negroes" made her finally realise the futility of her position.

Before seeing the programme, the only long-term members of UKIP I knew well were a woman who worked at my office and her husband; these two were among the most unpleasant people I have ever encountered, and when she moved on there was great rejoicing by all, whatever their political persuasion. Perhaps these two coloured my views on UKIP members, and some of those who appeared in the programme seemed to be a bit lost rather than actually downright nasty. Some, though, could only be described as absolutely barking.

I used to be immortal

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None of which are a race. Anti-US and Anti-Iseali positioning on the left are common, given the anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist stances common on the left (arguably the Left tends to be more pro-Palestine than anti-Israeli).

Witht the US being the most aggressively pro-capitalist nation its hardly surprising that the left wing, has a anti-US bias - It'd be like criticising the US as racist because it had an Anti-Soviet agenda in the 1980s.

Anti-Israeli is a phrase you tend to mix up with the idea of criticising occupation of Palestine and the subjucation of the rights of the Palestinian people.

Christianity - Well given Marxism is an anti-religeous movement - its hardly surprising that Western Leftists aren't supporters of Christainity. You could look at the support of Christian organisations for Governments around the world that have systematically suppressed Left wing movements (most notably in South America).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Not that I have flag to fly for UKIP at all Hoof and think they are a disaster but it interests me that as they have started to gain ground and a bit of traction they have gone from outright dismissal as mere protest votes a year or so ago, accompanied by the usual empty bollocks from the main parties about the electorate giving them 'a message' and they would listen carefully blah, blah, blah (it was Schapps and Balls at the last one and of course neither Labour or Tory did neither listen or do anything different) to what looks like an outright media onslaught from both the 'left and right' leaning press.

As an aside - Mentioned in the Chelsea thread, being a cynical old sod these days it did seem peculiar that there is some wonderfully clear and well timed 'amateur' footage from the French Metro system and within hours a picture of alledged public school racist photobombing, pint in hand, Farage, accompanied by all of his social media UKIP supporting laid bare..........

Of course it could just be a bit of old 80's style Chelsea FC Racism but its all so very 'neat' and tidy.....

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Well said.

And London? Well, it's a world city now and has been for a while and lost its strong 'Englishness' a long time ago.

Anyone who thinks UKIP can make a jot of difference to that should, however, go and live in Barking.

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