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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Apr 20 12.34am
Originally posted by .TUX. We all die eventually. If it happens to you this week you’ll be ready then. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Apr 20 12.34am

Originally posted by .TUX.

We all die eventually.

If it happens to you this week you’ll be ready then.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Apr 20 12.36am
Originally posted by .TUX. Sorry if i missed that. But yes, it is completely a monetary benefit.....just not to the general population. As usual. Life doesn’t have a price, and they’re focusing on the lives now. Soon they’ll be looking longer term. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Apr 20 12.36am

Originally posted by .TUX.

Sorry if i missed that.
But yes, it is completely a monetary benefit.....just not to the general population. As usual.

Life doesn’t have a price, and they’re focusing on the lives now. Soon they’ll be looking longer term.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Apr 20 12.44am
If we go to herd immunity now without the means to test and control, can we tax the fatties like I suggested? They’re going to cause a load of cost and problems so may as well get the money in now and they’re being very irresponsible. COYP
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Caterham 08 Apr 20 12.44am

If we go to herd immunity now without the means to test and control, can we tax the fatties like I suggested? They’re going to cause a load of cost and problems so may as well get the money in now and they’re being very irresponsible.

COYP

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.TUX. 08 Apr 20 12.56am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Maybe the massive MMT stimulus won't be such a disaster as most are skint now and so spending will be down leading to reduced inflation or even deflation....which I remember reading wasn't a good thing. Still...the debt balance sheet has been made so many times worse. I haven't a clue of course....but here's hoping. You would think that something has to be done about this level of debt...it can't go on and on....But this is what all the pension funds are living off. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2020 12.32am) Pension funds are screwed and have been for a long while. The 'boomers' will tell you that ''If you work hard, pay your way etc then you'll be fine, just as i am''. Sadly they don't realise why they are so well off.......money supply (inflation). Keynesian theory is bollox. A debt crisis cannot be solved by continually adding more bloody debt! Sept 17th 2019, the never mentioned 'Turning Point'. Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

08 Apr 20 12.56am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Maybe the massive MMT stimulus won't be such a disaster as most are skint now and so spending will be down leading to reduced inflation or even deflation....which I remember reading wasn't a good thing.

Still...the debt balance sheet has been made so many times worse.

I haven't a clue of course....but here's hoping.

You would think that something has to be done about this level of debt...it can't go on and on....But this is what all the pension funds are living off.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2020 12.32am)

Pension funds are screwed and have been for a long while.
The 'boomers' will tell you that ''If you work hard, pay your way etc then you'll be fine, just as i am''. Sadly they don't realise why they are so well off.......money supply (inflation).

Keynesian theory is bollox. A debt crisis cannot be solved by continually adding more bloody debt!

Sept 17th 2019, the never mentioned 'Turning Point'.

Buy Litecoin.

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.TUX. 08 Apr 20 12.58am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Life doesn’t have a price, and they’re focusing on the lives now. Soon they’ll be looking longer term. You're being robbed every day. So yes, it does. Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

08 Apr 20 12.58am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Life doesn’t have a price, and they’re focusing on the lives now. Soon they’ll be looking longer term.

You're being robbed every day.
So yes, it does.

Buy Litecoin.

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.TUX. 08 Apr 20 1.03am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman If it happens to you this week you’ll be ready then. I've been ready for 52yrs, since my twin brother died at birth. Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

08 Apr 20 1.03am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

If it happens to you this week you’ll be ready then.

I've been ready for 52yrs, since my twin brother died at birth.

Buy Litecoin.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Apr 20 1.12am
Originally posted by .TUX. You're being robbed every day. So yes, it does. You cannot recreate your life or a life. This will hopefully be for weeks longer. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Apr 20 1.12am

Originally posted by .TUX.

You're being robbed every day.
So yes, it does.

You cannot recreate your life or a life.

This will hopefully be for weeks longer.

COYP

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cryrst The garden of England 08 Apr 20 5.57am
Originally posted by .TUX. You're being robbed every day. So yes, it does. Are you worried about yourself being poorer then? Or are you thinking about your kids having less of an empire to take over. Also dont worry about everyone else cos they sure ain't worried about you. That's a fact.
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The garden of England 08 Apr 20 5.57am

Originally posted by .TUX.

You're being robbed every day.
So yes, it does.

Are you worried about yourself being poorer then?
Or are you thinking about your kids having less of an empire to take over. Also dont worry about everyone else cos they sure ain't worried about you. That's a fact.

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Tickled pink Cornwall 08 Apr 20 9.09am
9 Originally posted by dynamicdick I am sick and tired of constant tedious infuriating questions being asked by the media and today Raab should have told them succinctly that at the stated 3 week date the lockdown would be reviewed and the decision to alter or keep would be made then. The basis of that decision would be made on the science. If we relax too early this could trigger more cases and with it more deaths. Also stop being soft with people who flaunt the lockdown and constantly questioning the Police actions. If an immune person to covid 19 is still able to spread the virus by carrying it on their hands, clothes etc then we are not going to be able to see an end to lockdown until a vaccine is found, I wish they would just come out and say this but having said that keeping us locked up for the amount of time a vaccine takes to find will make a huge proportion of the population go bonkers, I have a fear this is going to take quite some time, Germany seem to have tested well and are in the best situation at the moment, but how do they move on? The police are going to have to be tough especially if we do relax the lockdown, the Germans have a much better idea of the population infected so have a good chance of relaxing with better outcomes. Edited by Tickled pink (08 Apr 2020 9.16am)
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Cornwall 08 Apr 20 9.09am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

I am sick and tired of constant tedious infuriating questions being asked by the media and today Raab should have told them succinctly that at the stated 3 week date the lockdown would be reviewed and the decision to alter or keep would be made then. The basis of that decision would be made on the science.
If we relax too early this could trigger more cases and with it more deaths.

Also stop being soft with people who flaunt the lockdown and constantly questioning the Police actions.

If an immune person to covid 19 is still able to spread the virus by carrying it on their hands, clothes etc then we are not going to be able to see an end to lockdown until a vaccine is found, I wish they would just come out and say this but having said that keeping us locked up for the amount of time a vaccine takes to find will make a huge proportion of the population go bonkers, I have a fear this is going to take quite some time, Germany seem to have tested well and are in the best situation at the moment, but how do they move on?

The police are going to have to be tough especially if we do relax the lockdown, the Germans have a much better idea of the population infected so have a good chance of relaxing with better outcomes.

Edited by Tickled pink (08 Apr 2020 9.16am)

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cryrst The garden of England 08 Apr 20 9.15am
Originally posted by Tickled pink 9 If an immune person to covid 19 is still able to spread the virus by carrying it on their hands, clothes etc then we are not going to be able to see an end to lockdown until a vaccine is found, I wish they would just come out and say this but having said that keeping us locked up for the amount of time a vaccine takes to find will make a huge proportion of the population go bonkers, I have a fear this is going to take quite some time, Germany seem to have tested well and are in the best situation at the moment, but how do they move on? Contact is the biggest way to get this bug..2 metres dont mean jack if you touch an infected area and touch your face. I think that should be highlighted more in the advice.
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The garden of England 08 Apr 20 9.15am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Contact is the biggest way to get this bug..2 metres dont mean jack if you touch an infected area and touch your face. I think that should be highlighted more in the advice.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Apr 20 9.25am
Originally posted by dynamicdick I am sick and tired of constant tedious infuriating questions being asked by the media and today Raab should have told them succinctly that at the stated 3 week date the lockdown would be reviewed and the decision to alter or keep would be made then. The basis of that decision would be made on the science. If we relax too early this could trigger more cases and with it more deaths. Also stop being soft with people who flaunt the lockdown and constantly questioning the Police actions. Personally I have never heard any mention of a review at the "3 week date", I did hear Boris Johnson assert that the 'Lockdown' would be reviewed on a "Month by month basis". There were mentions of the predicted peak being around Easter so perhaps some have drawn the conclusion that this is when the 'Lockdown' would be reviewed. Any easing of restrictions will be determined by the peak being reached and a 'Flattening' of that curve and I believe that at this stage it is a bit too premature to conclude when this might occur. I just have the feeling that we will continue in 'Lockdown' for another 3 weeks at the earliest but this is pure conjecture.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Apr 20 9.25am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

I am sick and tired of constant tedious infuriating questions being asked by the media and today Raab should have told them succinctly that at the stated 3 week date the lockdown would be reviewed and the decision to alter or keep would be made then. The basis of that decision would be made on the science.
If we relax too early this could trigger more cases and with it more deaths.

Also stop being soft with people who flaunt the lockdown and constantly questioning the Police actions.

Personally I have never heard any mention of a review at the "3 week date", I did hear Boris Johnson assert that the 'Lockdown' would be reviewed on a "Month by month basis".

There were mentions of the predicted peak being around Easter so perhaps some have drawn the conclusion that this is when the 'Lockdown' would be reviewed.

Any easing of restrictions will be determined by the peak being reached and a 'Flattening' of that curve and I believe that at this stage it is a bit too premature to conclude when this might occur.

I just have the feeling that we will continue in 'Lockdown' for another 3 weeks at the earliest but this is pure conjecture.

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Tickled pink Cornwall 08 Apr 20 9.42am
Originally posted by cryrst Contact is the biggest way to get this bug..2 metres dont mean jack if you touch an infected area and touch your face. I think that should be highlighted more in the advice. Yes, Sneezing and coughing allows droplets to float in the air and then land on surfaces, if they land in our mouths, nose, eyes and even ears we are in big trouble, using hands to touch the surfaces where an infected person has sneezed or coughed near or even just wiped their eyes and then touched is as bad for the period this virus is able to survive out of the host ..the amount of time is still very debatable and while it is is going to really determine how we relax and tackle this problem moving forward. We should all be wearing masks at least.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 08 Apr 20 9.42am

Originally posted by cryrst

Contact is the biggest way to get this bug..2 metres dont mean jack if you touch an infected area and touch your face. I think that should be highlighted more in the advice.

Yes, Sneezing and coughing allows droplets to float in the air and then land on surfaces, if they land in our mouths, nose, eyes and even ears we are in big trouble, using hands to touch the surfaces where an infected person has sneezed or coughed near or even just wiped their eyes and then touched is as bad for the period this virus is able to survive out of the host ..the amount of time is still very debatable and while it is is going to really determine how we relax and tackle this problem moving forward.

We should all be wearing masks at least.

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