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Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Nov 20 12.26pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Oh I totally agree some of it has gone way too far. Matov's given a shining example of that.

I just find it utterly bizarre how a lot of white people take it as a personal attack on their 'whiteness' when anyone that's different happens to appear on their television. Even if something is deliberately 'pro' something it doesn't mean it is 'anti' something else.

I do not use Twitter so have no idea as to what comments have been made. I do not see it as an attack on my “whiteness” but am firmly in the camp that it should be proportionate and adverts/period dramas are taking it too far.
My sons girlfriend is a very talented singer and was asked to attend an audition for Miss Saigon, unfortunately despite having the perfect voice for the specific role she could not be considered as she was not of Oriental appearance and they could not make her up to look so. Fair enough in this day and age, however other parts she has attended for have been given to BAME females, although parts would have been originally written for a white female ( due to period it was set), so you could argue she has been discriminated against but she just accepts it as part and parcel of the industry. Possibly an extreme example but Should be best person for the job/role imo, as it should be in any walk of life

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Nov 20 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Ghostship

Good point. I think that we shouldn't focus on what colour a persons skin is but that we have to realise that there are different groups of people who live differently and believe in different things. If we could just all tolerate that and try to get along then it would be great, I think a touch of live and let live has to come into it without it spilling over into violence.

It would be great if people could figure this out for themselves and adjust their behaviour naturally without the need for interfering, all be it well meaning, liberal organisations, which I think get people's backs up. I just don't like the way a certain demographic in this country have to be told to apologise for things in the past which had nothing to do with them and be made to feel guilty.

Well said. When I worked in pakistan the locally engaged staff, who were predominantly Muslim, loved the way we celebrated Christmas and always participated ( as far as permissible) in the festivities, we likewise at Eid

Edited by Spiderman (17 Nov 2020 12.35pm)

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Nov 20 12.36pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

I have not seen the adverts being discussed but as a matter of interest, do they include a proportionate number of Asian actors?

 

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Ghostship Flag Norfolk 17 Nov 20 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Ghostship Add Ghostship as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Well said. When I worked in pakistan the locally engaged staff, who were predominantly Muslim, loved the way we celebrated Christmas and always participated ( as far as permissible) in the festivities, we likewise at Eid

Edited by Spiderman (17 Nov 2020 12.35pm)

That's how you want it, unfortunately we had to celebrate Diwali at home this year. In better times we have had great turns out from local people in Peterborough and Leicester for the celebrations. Bring on Christmas we need it badly this year.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 17 Nov 20 12.53pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I have not seen the adverts being discussed but as a matter of interest, do they include a proportionate number of Asian actors?

Apparently there are 3. I’ve seen another scouse one so I can’t relate to that lol. If they were to ‘communicate’ to all races there will have to be more than 3, unless they’ve fallen into this new categorising of white, black, brown people which is as annoying as BAME. Eventually when the references of ‘coloured’ to the 1960’s in USA and Britain are forgotten in 100 years it’ll be back to coloured again for these meddling maniac wokies. If the person’s ethnicity has to be described then just describe it.

I still find it annoying the script they gave the black female.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Nov 20 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I have a very tiny hunch that your sources may turn out to be absolute whoppers.

We will soon find out.


I doubt it, I'm pretty sure the lawsuits will be pursued.

 


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jeeagles Flag 17 Nov 20 1.09pm

Originally posted by Matov
All the worst housing estates and social unrest are in areas controlled by the left. And we are talking decades long misrule.

Poor (white) kids in Glasgow stabbing each other to death for the most spurious of reasons, action is taken.

Poor (black) kids in London stabbing each other to death for the most spurious of reasons, no action is taken.

Actual real world racism. Different outcomes predecated soley on the basis of skin colour.

I'll take a guess that you haven't been to Glasgow in the last few decades? It's getting better, but doesn't have anywhere near the levels of investment and opportunity London has.

The difference is that services in Glasgow are less likely to have to deal with race politics, except sectarian issues, which are harder to spot. It's a lot easier to stop knife crime if the police don't have to deal with spurious accusations of racism every time they intervene.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Nov 20 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Oh I totally agree some of it has gone way too far. Matov's given a shining example of that.

I just find it utterly bizarre how a lot of white people take it as a personal attack on their 'whiteness' when anyone that's different happens to appear on their television. Even if something is deliberately 'pro' something it doesn't mean it is 'anti' something else.


You seem to think this is in isolation. There are attacks on 'whiteness' all the time from elites....your corporate 'woke' chums, media, and the institutions.

The BBC even made a program about 'whiteness', that's how blatant it is.

But you carry on pretending it's all about an advert with non whites and there's nothing to see here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2020 1.13pm)

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 17 Nov 20 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

This isn't really about colour of skin. Those who use this argument are self-defeating. This is about people who inherit class and monies, and are products of the public school system.
And it exists in the USA as it does in the UK

Money buys you power

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Nov 20 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


You seem to think this is in isolation. There are attacks on 'whiteness' all the time from elites....your corporate 'woke' chums, media, and the institutions.

The BBC even made a program about 'whiteness', that's how blatant it is.

But you carry on pretending it's all about an advert with non whites and there's nothing to see here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2020 1.13pm)

As usual, Dan and co think reductive arguments are OK when it suits but just ignorance when it doesn't.

 

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DanH Flag SW2 17 Nov 20 1.50pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


You seem to think this is in isolation. There are attacks on 'whiteness' all the time from elites....your corporate 'woke' chums, media, and the institutions.

The BBC even made a program about 'whiteness', that's how blatant it is.

But you carry on pretending it's all about an advert with non whites and there's nothing to see here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2020 1.13pm)

Anyone seeing it as an ‘attack on whiteness’ is so utterly insecure in their own skin that almost all you can do is feel pity for them having to live their lives like that.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Nov 20 1.54pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

What is 'Whiteness'?

I have no idea what people are referring to? Talking about 'whiteness' being under attack. What is 'whiteness' and how is it under attack?

I am White, do I have 'whiteness' and is is my 'whiteness' under attack?

Serious question I have no idea what is being referred to?

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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