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Matov Flag 31 Jul 19 7.11pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It would be “unthinkable” if a no-deal Brexit was not followed by a poll on Irish reunification, the leader of Sinn Féin has warned Boris Johnson, also telling the prime minister that no one believed he was impartial on Northern Ireland.

Things warming up for the self-appointed 'Minister of the Union'....


Yep. Because of course in Dublin whose econony will be in huge decline if its Masters in Brussels order it to impose a hard border, along with coming under immense pressure over its current corporation tax rates from its EU 'comrades' whilst the UK drops its own rates to less than 10% will positively relish the influx of the population from the North and the need to continue their current standards of living with regards to simple things such as the equivalent of our NHS or having to pay for their kids exercise books and so on, all whilst having to let their nationals in the south still not have either.

And of course those Loyalists. Bound to just sit back and accept rule from Dublin without kicking up a fuss and even if they did, then so what? The Irish Army are more than up to the task of dealing with them.

If there is a no-deal Brexit then a united Ireland is absolute pie in the sky. Primarily because the South simply could not afford it.

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 31 Jul 19 7.19pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Republicanism (as para-militaries, not politicians), is on the rise.
Tories having to dance to the tune of the DUP is widening rifts in NI politics
Only a GE with an outright winner,(getting rid of the DUP), seems like the only way to stop a return to violence by Republicans

 


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corkery Flag Cork City 31 Jul 19 7.24pm Send a Private Message to corkery Add corkery as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It would be “unthinkable” if a no-deal Brexit was not followed by a poll on Irish reunification, the leader of Sinn Féin has warned Boris Johnson, also telling the prime minister that no one believed he was impartial on Northern Ireland.

Things warming up for the self-appointed 'Minister of the Union'....


Nobody wants Northern Ireland. People in Ireland and the UK pretend they want it out of national pride but deep down they know it requires a ten billion pound top up every year.

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 31 Jul 19 8.25pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by corkery


Nobody wants Northern Ireland. People in Ireland and the UK pretend they want it out of national pride but deep down they know it requires a ten billion pound top up every year.

Ha good old Sinn Fein. They want the Brits out yet want to be under the yolk of a far more sinister organisation.

 


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Matov Flag 31 Jul 19 10.41pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Ha good old Sinn Fein. They want the Brits out yet want to be under the yolk of a far more sinister organisation.

Always struck me as a complete mystery why 'nationalist' organisations like the SNP seem so keen on swapping one version of what they see as servitude for another.

The desire for self-determination I get. I loathe foreign institutions having any say over UK law. And I get why people might vote for the SNP if they believe Scotland would be better off if it had the ability to make its own laws and decide its own fate.

But how and why that now seems so tied up with this idea that the EU is the answer to all of their problems is utterly beyond me.

Yes, the history between all of us home nations and/or Ireland hardly makes for the most pleasant of reading at time but we also share a lot of common bonds and cultural values. The average punter in Dublin or Glasgow has so much more in common with their equivalent in Birmingham or Bristol (I will leave London out because that is in a category of its own now that neither Scotland or Ireland have anything even close to) than anybody in Europe yet seemingly nationalists in both would rather tie their future to Brussels or Berlin.

I cannot help but think that a chip on their shoulders lays at the bottom of this all. They simply hate living in England's shadow and would rather swap that darkness for a similar gloomy one but emanating from Brussels. They lack the confidence to actually try and make it on their own.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jul 19 11.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by corkery


Nobody wants Northern Ireland. People in Ireland and the UK pretend they want it out of national pride but deep down they know it requires a ten billion pound top up every year.

Hasn't Ireland been on the considerable net take from the EU for decades? What makes Ireland such a catch? Without that EU money how would Ireland be doing?

I rather suspect that the Irish nationalists just prefer being ruled by Germans as long as it comes with a cheque. As long as they still get to wave the flag and drink Guinness.

That's their choice but that's what it looks like.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2019 11.25pm)

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 01 Aug 19 12.04am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Hasn't Ireland been on the considerable net take from the EU for decades? What makes Ireland such a catch? Without that EU money how would Ireland be doing?

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2019 11.25pm)

Not for the past five years.

So apparently quite well

The US is HIGHLY supportive of the ROI

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Aug 19 12.12am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Not for the past five years.

So apparently quite well

The US is HIGHLY supportive of the ROI

Apparently Ireland has received more than 50 billion from the EU since 1973....which we would have probably done more than 10 billion of.

So it's good that they are finally paying tiny amounts back in now.

I have no idea why you mentioned the US.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 01 Aug 19 12.14am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Apparently Ireland has received more than 50 billion from the EU since 1973....which we would have probably done more than 10 billion of.

So it's good that they are finally paying tiny amounts back in now.

I have no idea why you mentioned the US.

Because the Government actively encourages US investment into Ireland. It has a very strong sugar daddy.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Aug 19 12.49am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Because the Government actively encourages US investment into Ireland. It has a very strong sugar daddy.

Well good for the Paddies.....They don't rule them though do they.

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 01 Aug 19 1.36am

1133 days since the Brexit vote and still sweet FA has happened. There have, I would imagine, been more enjoyable comas.

Whether October, or via GE, or whenever, I think at this point anyone but a sadomasochist should be pleased when we turn the page. Boris looks more steadfast, which may twist the arms that matter. But who knows, my crystal ball packed up a long time ago.

What should be evident though is that Theresa May suited no-one. Remainers didn't like her because she was negotiating to leave, and leavers didn't like her because her heart clearly wasn't into leaving, so she was the opposite of a formidable negotiator. At least Boris is taking a position and so the outcome could be different. Time will tell.

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W12 01 Aug 19 12.14pm

Originally posted by dollardays

1133 days since the Brexit vote and still sweet FA has happened. There have, I would imagine, been more enjoyable comas.

Whether October, or via GE, or whenever, I think at this point anyone but a sadomasochist should be pleased when we turn the page. Boris looks more steadfast, which may twist the arms that matter. But who knows, my crystal ball packed up a long time ago.

What should be evident though is that Theresa May suited no-one. Remainers didn't like her because she was negotiating to leave, and leavers didn't like her because her heart clearly wasn't into leaving, so she was the opposite of a formidable negotiator. At least Boris is taking a position and so the outcome could be different. Time will tell.

Edited by dollardays (01 Aug 2019 1.57am)

I'm a rabid leaver and have absolutely no confidence in Boris Johnson. The game is rigged so we need a new game.

 

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