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Originally posted by Willo
I am reminded of the saying "Between the devil and the deep blue sea".
I actually think there's a strategy which Parish could use which suits all parties (the same one Arsenal could have used with Wenger & didn't). Publically announce now that Hodgson's contract will NOT be extended & that his last game as manager Palace WILL be the last game of the current season. Therefore Palace are NOW staring their search for their next manager, meanwhile we (Palace) will use the rest of the season to pay tribute to Roy and any member of the playing squad demonstrably failing to support Roy will not be considered for next season's squad. Putting this out in the public domain appeases those who want him gone (the see the light at the end of the tunnel) AND those who feel he deserves a reasonable send off - you just know that if this was announced publically, SKY et al would have a field day about "Roy's great career" etc so he (Roy) I'm sure would garner alot of positive press (at a time he needs it).
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Significant funds will only be available when new owners take over and that will only ever happen when Mr Parish is willing to relinquish his shareholding and management control and he has shown no signs of wanting to do that despite promising ten years ago that he was only here for the short term He wont be able to it. He hasn't the money to own a PL team, but he cant admit it. I reckon there are plenty of far east, possibly Russian, even USA investors who would buy the club and invest for the future, but he is like the small businessman who has built up his firm and just cant let go..in the end they just get overtaken by those with a bit of vision and ambition.
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Hopefully Xmas 2021......... You’re not a Thunderbirds fan then?
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Originally posted by Painter
Arguably another manager could do better than Roy with this squad. The real issue is everything has gone stale over time, same manager, same players for too long. Managers going stale isn't a unique problem. Only 4 premiership managers have been in the job longer than Roy. They are Wilder, Dyche, Pep, and Klopp. All for have delivered a significant amount of success to their clubs since they started. Under Roy, we are stagnet, our league position and cup performance have declined. He's been lucky to have had the job for so long, had the board been a tad more ambitious he'd be gone by now. However, had the board been too ambitious we might have been in a situation like Watford so their is a balance. It does seem there is a split in Roy's supporters, between the more sensible ones realising he is a short term stop gap, to the more idiotic romantic ones gushing of Mr Cwoydon Hodgson believing that some how the geriatric owl is the man to create a dynasty. I'm quite sceptical of the run coming up, I think we've left it far too late and given him far too many chances. We'll play 4-4-2 against Wolves today for the 3rd time in a few months and lose again. Our only hope is to sucker punch them with an early goal or we are screwed. We all want investment, but it has to be careful and sustainable given our relative income. A 73 year old isn't the leader a business will invest in, especially given his poor recent performance in the league and on transfers. That's just the way investment works. But I've gone off on a rant again... all I meant to say that 3 and a half years is a very good innings for a premier league manager that hasn't had any major achievement.
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Easy. We need 2 or 3 new players so Croydon Roy can stick then on the bench. If they're good and buy him a bottle of wine they may get introduced in the 89th minute when we are already 3-0 down. That's how to use the squad, Roy style. Are you suggesting that our manager has had the pleasure of two to three new players to bring on to change things and not done so? Eze was the most recent new addition it is always going to take someone from a lower league a couple of weeks or so before being risked to face the sort of abuse Zaha receives in this league.
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Originally posted by Jacey
Had a bad dream last night that we had lost our next six games and Roy was still not sacked as we moved into the bottom three without hope. I dreamt that we won our next six and were up the arse of the top seven!
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What is it with this sacking our manager, what exactly is going to change??
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
What is it with this sacking our manager, what exactly is going to change?? The 4-4-2 system for a start.
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
What is it with this sacking our manager, what exactly is going to change?? Well we obviously wont if your dream becomes reality. It's all about results as it is with all jobs.
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Feel it is not Roy the manager that is the problem, it is his system and the way he sticks to out-of-form players like Townsend, Benteke, Kouyate and Luka.
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Originally posted by thai-eagle
Feel it is not Roy the manager that is the problem, it is his system and the way he sticks to out-of-form players like Townsend, Benteke, Kouyate and Luka. There are two problems, the manager and the 4 players you mention.
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Managers going stale isn't a unique problem. Only 4 premiership managers have been in the job longer than Roy. They are Wilder, Dyche, Pep, and Klopp. All for have delivered a significant amount of success to their clubs since they started. Under Roy, we are stagnet, our league position and cup performance have declined. He's been lucky to have had the job for so long, had the board been a tad more ambitious he'd be gone by now. However, had the board been too ambitious we might have been in a situation like Watford so their is a balance. It does seem there is a split in Roy's supporters, between the more sensible ones realising he is a short term stop gap, to the more idiotic romantic ones gushing of Mr Cwoydon Hodgson believing that some how the geriatric owl is the man to create a dynasty. I'm quite sceptical of the run coming up, I think we've left it far too late and given him far too many chances. We'll play 4-4-2 against Wolves today for the 3rd time in a few months and lose again. Our only hope is to sucker punch them with an early goal or we are screwed. We all want investment, but it has to be careful and sustainable given our relative income. A 73 year old isn't the leader a business will invest in, especially given his poor recent performance in the league and on transfers. That's just the way investment works. But I've gone off on a rant again... all I meant to say that 3 and a half years is a very good innings for a premier league manager that hasn't had any major achievement. Ah, like we did against West Ham, good plan!
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