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 Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 17 Nov 20 10.55am |
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Originally posted by Ghostship
I agree that I can't understand why people get so worked up about a tv advert but even as a non white person I have to say it's getting ridiculous all this PC woke crap we get now. All of the people I know who are black and brown we all find it more of a hinderance than a help and just want to get on with life without being patronised by middle class liberals. I think you are bang on the money. Many 'whites' are impoverished or discriminated against. It isn't helpful or productive to base opinions on skin colour. The bigger issue is the inherited monies from the 'ruling classes' who are generally absolute morons. And lower classes to to accept the Status Quo. More fool us,... Edited by Forest Hillbilly (17 Nov 2020 10.56am)
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silvertop  Portishead 17 Nov 20 11.00am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So are you suggesting that the government should control the media? Are you suggesting that elected politicians really have control over elite globalists? No to both questions And you may not like this but your second para effectively supports my post. Remember what I was replying to.
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Teddy Eagle  17 Nov 20 11.03am |
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Originally posted by Ghostship
I agree that I can't understand why people get so worked up about a tv advert but even as a non white person I have to say it's getting ridiculous all this PC woke crap we get now. All of the people I know who are black and brown we all find it more of a hinderance than a help and just want to get on with life without being patronised by middle class liberals. Nail on head. Let’s await a response.
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| Matov 17 Nov 20 11.05am |
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Originally posted by Ghostship
I agree that I can't understand why people get so worked up about a tv advert but even as a non white person I have to say it's getting ridiculous all this PC woke crap we get now. All of the people I know who are black and brown we all find it more of a hinderance than a help and just want to get on with life without being patronised by middle class liberals. I would argue that if it was merely being patronised then no real harm done. But instead all I see a segment of middle class liberals keen on ensuring that non-whites remain poor and with increasingly bad life outcomes. They get a buzz out of ethnic suffering because they just love pontificating about how bad they find it. Not interested in solutions, merely in ensuring that they can signal to the rest of the world how bad they think it is. All the worst housing estates and social unrest are in areas controlled by the left. And we are talking decades long misrule. Poor (white) kids in Glasgow stabbing each other to death for the most spurious of reasons, action is taken. Poor (black) kids in London stabbing each other to death for the most spurious of reasons, no action is taken. Actual real world racism. Different outcomes predecated soley on the basis of skin colour.
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| Ghostship Norfolk 17 Nov 20 11.11am |
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Originally posted by Matov
I would argue that if it was merely being patronised then no real harm done. But instead all I see a segment of middle class liberals keen on ensuring that non-whites remain poor and with increasingly bad life outcomes. They get a buzz out of ethnic suffering because they just love pontificating about how bad they find it. Not interested in solutions, merely in ensuring that they can signal to the rest of the world how bad they think it is. All the worst housing estates and social unrest are in areas controlled by the left. And we are talking decades long misrule. Poor (white) kids in Glasgow stabbing each other to death for the most spurious of reasons, action is taken. Poor (black) kids in London stabbing each other to death for the most spurious of reasons, no action is taken. Actual real world racism. Different outcomes predecated soley on the basis of skin colour. On the point of black kids in London stabbing each other to death this is what BLM should be focusing on, if black lives matter so much they should be working with the community leaders to help them stop this awful problem. There are some good community leaders out there that are trying to make a difference but find it tough to get through to these kids maybe BLM can put themselves to better use to help in this.
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| silvertop Portishead 17 Nov 20 11.12am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Imagine being arsed by the colour of someone’s skin in an advert in the first place. Perhaps people don't want to be passive participants in a social experiment devised by those who hold different values?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 17 Nov 20 11.32am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
No to both questions And you may not like this but your second para effectively supports my post. Remember what I was replying to. Not really. Blair pandered to the globalists, he was their bitch. He did not try to control them. He opened the flood gates for immigration and was complicit in setting the tone for what was to come.
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| DanH SW2 17 Nov 20 11.35am |
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Originally posted by Ghostship
I agree that I can't understand why people get so worked up about a tv advert but even as a non white person I have to say it's getting ridiculous all this PC woke crap we get now. All of the people I know who are black and brown we all find it more of a hinderance than a help and just want to get on with life without being patronised by middle class liberals. Oh I totally agree some of it has gone way too far. Matov's given a shining example of that. I just find it utterly bizarre how a lot of white people take it as a personal attack on their 'whiteness' when anyone that's different happens to appear on their television. Even if something is deliberately 'pro' something it doesn't mean it is 'anti' something else.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Nov 20 11.40am |
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Originally posted by Ghostship
I agree that I can't understand why people get so worked up about a tv advert but even as a non white person I have to say it's getting ridiculous all this PC woke crap we get now. All of the people I know who are black and brown we all find it more of a hinderance than a help and just want to get on with life without being patronised by middle class liberals. It's not about one TV advert is it. I completely understand how Black people would find all this pathetic fawning utterly embarrassing. I would imagine that most Black people just want to lead a normal life just like anyone else without being patronised by liberals or those wishing to appear virtuous. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (17 Nov 2020 11.41am)
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| Ghostship Norfolk 17 Nov 20 11.49am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Oh I totally agree some of it has gone way too far. Matov's given a shining example of that. I just find it utterly bizarre how a lot of white people take it as a personal attack on their 'whiteness' when anyone that's different happens to appear on their television. Even if something is deliberately 'pro' something it doesn't mean it is 'anti' something else. Good point. I think that we shouldn't focus on what colour a persons skin is but that we have to realise that there are different groups of people who live differently and believe in different things. If we could just all tolerate that and try to get along then it would be great, I think a touch of live and let live has to come into it without it spilling over into violence. It would be great if people could figure this out for themselves and adjust their behaviour naturally without the need for interfering, all be it well meaning, liberal organisations, which I think get people's backs up. I just don't like the way a certain demographic in this country have to be told to apologise for things in the past which had nothing to do with them and be made to feel guilty.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Nov 20 11.54am |
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Originally posted by Ghostship
On the point of black kids in London stabbing each other to death this is what BLM should be focusing on, if black lives matter so much they should be working with the community leaders to help them stop this awful problem. There are some good community leaders out there that are trying to make a difference but find it tough to get through to these kids maybe BLM can put themselves to better use to help in this. Unlikely. BLM think defunding the police by 10% and chucking that money at making opportunities better for young black people will solve knife crime. Some young black people into this politics have fallen for this make believe perfect solution. Never going to happen. As long as someone can, or is allowed to make easy or easier big money in crime they will do so. It doesn’t matter if some around them are going to better work or getting some more qualifications. Edited by Rudi Hedman (17 Nov 2020 11.57am)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Nov 20 12.05pm |
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Biden now on 306 turning out to be a very comfortable victory. Trump anted to nuke Iran in reply what a surreal world. Too much power vested in one individual.
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