A consensus of who? The 5 eyes security services or Fox News and the Daily Mail?

If there was a quiet agreement reached via diplomacy that all the major powers accepted that destroying any nuclear facilities was necessary then perhaps forensic strikes could be done, with advanced warnings to ensure minimum civilian casualties and collateral damage, with explanation to the people that this was ultimately in their best interests too.

Suspecting something so important isn’t enough.

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Historically, there have been reports and investigations indicating that Iran is pursuing a covert nuclear weapons program in the past, based on evidence such as procurement activities, enrichment activities, and suspicious facilities. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which is the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog, has investigated Iran's nuclear program and reported several instances of non-compliance in the past.

The JCPOA imposed strict limitations and enhanced monitoring on Iran's nuclear activities and allowed for intrusive inspections by the IAEA.

It is crucial to follow the assessments of expert organizations and international bodies, such as the IAEA, to gather a nuanced understanding of the status of Iran's nuclear program.

The newspapers just report the news.

I don’t think anyone here is going to disagree with these sentiments. I certainly don’t. It’s the way to achieve them that is in dispute. Taking actions that ultimately make things worse doesn’t make sense, something that all the western world, other than the Israeli leadership, seems in agreement about. This retiree is pleased to see that and hopes their wise council bears fruit and that the religious hot heads in Israel don’t prevail.

The biggest problem I see is how to restrain two religious based regimes both fighting for their own survival, quite possibly trying to avoid jail or even losing their lives.

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Here is a summary of some of the evidence about Irans nuclear intervention that has been discussed in the past:

1. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Reports: The IAEA, the UN's nuclear watchdog, has conducted multiple inspections and produced reports on Iran's nuclear program. While not conclusive evidence of Iran's intention to produce nuclear weapons, some reports have outlined concerns about the possible military dimensions of Iran's nuclear activities.

2. Nuclear Programs and Uranium Enrichment: Iran has pursued a nuclear program and has publicly stated its intention to develop peaceful nuclear energy. However, some have raised concerns about Iran's level of uranium enrichment, which can be used for power generation but also for the production of weapons-grade uranium.

3. Documentation Seizures: In 2018, Israeli intelligence claimed to have seized thousands of documents from Iran that purportedly revealed an organized effort by the country to develop nuclear weapons before 2003. These documents are considered by some as evidence of past intentions, although Iran has dismissed them as fabricated.

4. Missile Development: Iran has also been developing ballistic missiles, which could potentially be used to deliver nuclear warheads. While missile development alone doesn't prove the existence of a nuclear weapons program, it has raised concerns among some nations regarding Iran's intentions.

Iran has, also, intentionally blocked investigations, to particular sites. You do not have to be highly intelligent to understand why!

Because nuclear monitoring worked well with North Korea, India and pakistan. The break-up of the USSR also assisted the wider distribution of weapons and information. Basically, anyone is capable of getting anything, if they have the cash.

I disengage, I turn the page.

This isn’t new. What’s is, is the urgency to make it work and include every current nuclear power. Proliferation has to stop. Yes, that includes Russia, India and pakistan.

Politics affecting other things needs to be replaced by pragmatism over shared objectives. Which can only be achieved by diplomacy.

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