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DanH SW2 13 Dec 19 3.36pm
Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader?
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SW2 13 Dec 19 3.36pm

Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader?

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chris123 hove actually 13 Dec 19 3.41pm
Originally posted by DanH Labourites on social media blaming everyone but themselves. Sigh. As mentioned up thread - there is a big gap between the member and electorate thinking.
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hove actually 13 Dec 19 3.41pm

Originally posted by DanH

Labourites on social media blaming everyone but themselves. Sigh.

As mentioned up thread - there is a big gap between the member and electorate thinking.

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DANGERCLOSE London 13 Dec 19 3.43pm
Originally posted by DanH Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader? diane abbott
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DANGERCLOSE

London 13 Dec 19 3.43pm

Originally posted by DanH

Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader?

diane abbott

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Lyons550 Shirley 13 Dec 19 3.46pm
Originally posted by DanH Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader? I cant think of anyone...if David Milliband came back i think he'd be a good leader...but he's earning shyteloads elsewhere as part of the capitalist money machine.. The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 13 Dec 19 3.46pm

Originally posted by DanH

Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader?

I cant think of anyone...if David Milliband came back i think he'd be a good leader...but he's earning shyteloads elsewhere as part of the capitalist money machine..

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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chris123 hove actually 13 Dec 19 3.53pm
Originally posted by DanH Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader? Andy Burnham.
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hove actually 13 Dec 19 3.53pm

Originally posted by DanH

Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader?

Andy Burnham.

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Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 5.11pm
Originally posted by DanH Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader? John Mann and Caroline Flint were probably the most Tory-lite candidates. Both gone now. I hope Flint gets back as she has her head screwed on properly....as well as having something about her. Corbyn's cabinet is full of those signed up to his programme so there's little policy wise that someone on the right could vote for. That said, and I think I've mentioned this before, the Labour front bench politicians I'm most impressed with intellectually are Keir Starmer and Barry Gardiner. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 6.18pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Dec 19 5.11pm

Originally posted by DanH

Genuine question for you lot - is there anyone in the current Labour Party that you would actually consider voting for if they were leader?

John Mann and Caroline Flint were probably the most Tory-lite candidates. Both gone now.

I hope Flint gets back as she has her head screwed on properly....as well as having something about her.

Corbyn's cabinet is full of those signed up to his programme so there's little policy wise that someone on the right could vote for.

That said, and I think I've mentioned this before, the Labour front bench politicians I'm most impressed with intellectually are Keir Starmer and Barry Gardiner.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 6.18pm)

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DanH SW2 13 Dec 19 5.20pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays John Mann and Caroline Flint were probably the most Tory-lite candidates. Both gone now. I hope Flint gets back as she has her head screwed on probably....as well as having something about her. Corbyn's cabinet is full of those signed up to his programme so there's little policy wise that someone on the right could vote for. That said, and I think I've mentioned this before, but the Labour front bench politicians I'm most impressed with intellectually are Keir Starmer and Barry Gardiner. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 5.11pm) Yeah Kier Starmer is v good. Think he’ll put himself forward for next leader too. The Labour Party really need to have a good long hard look at themselves and realise what they have to do to make themselves electable. It’s people like you guys they need to convince, not us younger soft lads
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DanH

SW2 13 Dec 19 5.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

John Mann and Caroline Flint were probably the most Tory-lite candidates. Both gone now.

I hope Flint gets back as she has her head screwed on probably....as well as having something about her.

Corbyn's cabinet is full of those signed up to his programme so there's little policy wise that someone on the right could vote for.

That said, and I think I've mentioned this before, but the Labour front bench politicians I'm most impressed with intellectually are Keir Starmer and Barry Gardiner.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 5.11pm)

Yeah Kier Starmer is v good. Think he’ll put himself forward for next leader too.

The Labour Party really need to have a good long hard look at themselves and realise what they have to do to make themselves electable. It’s people like you guys they need to convince, not us younger soft lads

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cryrst The garden of England 13 Dec 19 5.39pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Brexit should form part of it. Not all of it. People can choose over one issue, that is the issue. Your points over Waspi/Jews/Green are complete conjecture My decision was made on the bigger picture, with objectivity, not one-eyed navel gazing Not a computer programme no. But my brain, unlike some it would seem, is able to think about and analyse more than one thing concurrently, and more importantly understand that such deliberation and consideration is necessary Correct. Obviously you failed to read below the line. 95% in fact. 'Stupid beyond redemption' was a borrowed, but wholly appropriate phrase lifted from Matov RETURN RETURN RETURN RETURN So it is ok to choose which way to vote on one issue then?
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cryrst

The garden of England 13 Dec 19 5.39pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Brexit should form part of it. Not all of it.
People can choose over one issue, that is the issue.
Your points over Waspi/Jews/Green are complete conjecture
My decision was made on the bigger picture, with objectivity, not one-eyed navel gazing
Not a computer programme no. But my brain, unlike some it would seem, is able to think about and analyse more than one thing concurrently, and more importantly understand that such deliberation and consideration is necessary
Correct. Obviously you failed to read below the line. 95% in fact.
'Stupid beyond redemption' was a borrowed, but wholly appropriate phrase lifted from Matov

RETURN
RETURN
RETURN
RETURN

So it is ok to choose which way to vote on one issue then?

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Stirlingsays 13 Dec 19 5.47pm
Originally posted by DanH Yeah Kier Starmer is v good. Think he’ll put himself forward for next leader too. The Labour Party really need to have a good long hard look at themselves and realise what they have to do to make themselves electable. It’s people like you guys they need to convince, not us younger soft lads Well I view social liberalism as inherently destructive to social order and some neo liberalism as too nihilistically individualistic for social good either. So I'm twenty years too far gone for any moderate Labour politician. Still if I put a Labour hat on, I can see a battle emerging within the party between Corbyn's momentum backed wing and the remaining moderates. I think it might come down to Starmer v McDonnell......Though you're bound to get some of the useless bints like Thornberry put herself forward.....She's about as likeable as terminal syphilis. Still, she fits the momentum doctrine quite nicely. Watching what happens in Labour will be genuinely interesting. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 6.17pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Dec 19 5.47pm

Originally posted by DanH

Yeah Kier Starmer is v good. Think he’ll put himself forward for next leader too.

Well I view social liberalism as inherently destructive to social order and some neo liberalism as too nihilistically individualistic for social good either.

So I'm twenty years too far gone for any moderate Labour politician.

Still if I put a Labour hat on, I can see a battle emerging within the party between Corbyn's momentum backed wing and the remaining moderates.

I think it might come down to Starmer v McDonnell......Though you're bound to get some of the useless bints like Thornberry put herself forward.....She's about as likeable as terminal syphilis.

Still, she fits the momentum doctrine quite nicely.

Watching what happens in Labour will be genuinely interesting.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2019 6.17pm)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 19 6.10pm
Originally posted by DanH Yeah Kier Starmer is v good. Think he’ll put himself forward for next leader too. The Labour Party really need to have a good long hard look at themselves and realise what they have to do to make themselves electable. It’s people like you guys they need to convince, not us younger soft lads He might be a man of erudition but he has that deadpan expression that never changes and appears to have undergone a charisma by-pass procedure.Never seen the chap smile or show a modicum of emotion.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 19 6.10pm

Originally posted by DanH

Yeah Kier Starmer is v good. Think he’ll put himself forward for next leader too.

He might be a man of erudition but he has that deadpan expression that never changes and appears to have undergone a charisma by-pass procedure.Never seen the chap smile or show a modicum of emotion.

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DanH SW2 13 Dec 19 6.36pm
Originally posted by Willo He might be a man of erudition but he has that deadpan expression that never changes and appears to have undergone a charisma by-pass procedure.Never seen the chap smile or show a modicum of emotion. This is what depresses me about modern politics. Personality over substance.
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DanH

SW2 13 Dec 19 6.36pm

Originally posted by Willo

He might be a man of erudition but he has that deadpan expression that never changes and appears to have undergone a charisma by-pass procedure.Never seen the chap smile or show a modicum of emotion.

This is what depresses me about modern politics. Personality over substance.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 19 6.46pm
Originally posted by DanH This is what depresses me about modern politics. Personality over substance. Neither of which Corbyn possesses nor certain members of his front bench. In terms of Starmer, I did comment that he was a man of erudition. Edited by Willo (13 Dec 2019 6.46pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 19 6.46pm

Originally posted by DanH

This is what depresses me about modern politics. Personality over substance.

Neither of which Corbyn possesses nor certain members of his front bench.

In terms of Starmer, I did comment that he was a man of erudition.

Edited by Willo (13 Dec 2019 6.46pm)

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