It seems to me that by promoting lifestyles that would increase the number of same sex relationships and hence reduce reproduction rates is doing exactly that...You are indeed supporting the 'configuring of society'....but just along the lines that you want.

I as said, I think you have an internal inconsistency between your views of the sexual and that of the racial.

To take your wider point....I have a certain acceptance of the general principle.....However, like I've stated people following your principles are walking into demographic replacement.

Similar to what the Dalai Lama said, England is for the English.....A country like Japan, China and many others outside Europe protect their biological heritage and I ask for nothing more.....I view that as highly important as people with your views enable its destruction.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

So much inaccuracy.....like I've said before with you you make weak deductions from statements to support contentions you make up.

Some gays live a lifestyle I don't like.....Hell the very joke says that.....Jesus!

I'm clear with my views. I don't hide them. I don't appreciate you portraying positions I don't really hold because you don't like how I think.....Really calling me 'hateful'....you're a parody of a 'identity politics' progressive yourself.....Who Carlin was taking the pIss out of.

The rest of that over long paragraph reads like a badly formed waffle ending to some silly notion that I'm not assimilated.

So what are you saying here....If people you approve of use words like 'fag' that's ok but if those you view as 'hateful' use it you're going to melt like a snowflake?

You have some issues Word Up.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2019 10.01pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

So are you seriously suggesting that the promotion of homosexuality as an equal choice for women....who statistically have much higher rates of bisexuality....isn't...if successfully implemented over years going to add to the decrease in reproduction rates?

As for eugenics.....why would you care Wordy?....you are appartently so against identity politics....who cares if the northern European English disappear so likewise who cares if the homosexual disappears?

I never actually said that anyway. But how revealing that you would quote me out of context....probably not deliberately in this case as I suspect you just forgot what I added.

Regardless of the genetic science of the far off future homosexuality will never totally 'disappear' as firstly genes are affected by environment to differing degrees and secondly sexuality can be affected by circumstance....as the noises coming from some prison cells would attest to.

But very long term it's probable that all sexuality will be affected and controlled....as will race.

I'm protective on a national policy level....I hold the same contention that many actual countries hold.

However, at the individual level, you over extend my attitude. People's choices are their own.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2019 10.24pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You were angry about Stormzy's use of homophobic language the other day. Fine now though of course. Opportunist.

Shoo.

Edited by dollardays (07 Jul 2019 10.29pm)

Well, no because I don't have a policy of agreeing with or in the least bit encouraging mass immigration, so none of this has anything to do with me. I have at times voted solely due to immigration policy.

My interest is in countering the kind of tribal hysteria that's on the both ends of the political spectrum. Partly fueled by perfectly legitimate concerns, and partly because nuance doesn't rate or sell online. It isn't valued, so people buy into the comforting 'off the shelf' beliefs and terminologies that are of limited use in real life interactions. It's certainly what you've done. So yes, from that perspective I would be perfectly fine with a pause of there being 'zero' immigration or right of citizenship for anyone for years on end. None. So effectively the current Japanese approach. Then from there basing requirements on vacancies we need filled, based on an individuals skillset and character. Clearly mass immigration doesn't come without a cost and I don't feel anyone aside from corporations are particularly 'missing out' if we swerve another couple of million people comes here over the next 5 years.

Your approach however will turn people away from the outcomes you desire, not towards them. Slurs, and negative fixations on genetics, race and sexualities that make up the average family and friend group.. Such a 'my way or the highway' attitude to life is detached from the average persons understanding of how to get along with others. Perhaps you don't have a group to get along with as such and so feel no need to value cooperation. I don't know. It's not my concern.

If you're looking for gather support for a view, rather than achieve the opposite, it would surely be better to simply get behind messages that can narrowly have majority support .. Talk of needing to limit numbers due to issues with assimilation.. the housing crisis.. the need to support the younger generations... lack of resources to pick up the responsibility to teach people entirely new language.. lack of jobs for those already here.. a strained health care system.. and vote accordingly, which I would argue people are doing more now anyway. That can gain majority support.

Countless people hold those views, but most they certainly don't behave towards and perceive groups the way you elect to. But yeah, the consequences for those around you is for them to navigate. Good luck to 'em.

Edited by dollardays (07 Jul 2019 10.39pm)

I stated a poster had used a homophobic slur and that it's no better in my mind than using a racist one.

You attacked Stormzy the other day due to using the very same slur. Of course none of that matters to you now does it because this is an opportunity. An in.

If the shoe fits.

I won't be replying to you again.

Edited by dollardays (07 Jul 2019 10.54pm)