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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 23 10.16am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
The electorate were idiots for falling for Boris' lies and undeliverable promises, No doubt, but that's nothing new and is to be welcomed, not feared. The EU will go on evolving and would be greatly strengthened by us rejoining. It would gain significant status. Organisations such as the EU are the future of the world. We are nuts to think we can be better off outside.
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 georgenorman 27 Feb 23 11.18am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It wasn't the fault of the electorate but the people they chose to represent them, who put in place a lying populist. The bottom line of which ultimately means that we must modernise our voting system to ensure that the people we choose don't let us down The electorate chose to vote for Johnson and the implementing of Brexit. Remainer MPs at that election were decimated.
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 27 Feb 23 11.18am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It wasn't the fault of the electorate but the people they chose to represent them, who put in place a lying populist. The bottom line of which ultimately means that we must modernise our voting system to ensure that the people we choose don't let us down "It wasn't the fault of the electorate but the people they chose to represent us"....But you consistently say that the representatives that have been voted for should be allowed to get on with representing us. If they don't, they can voted out. So modernising the voting system should be, presumably, proportional representation. As in, proportionately representing what you believe in. Or should it just be for those who are "clever enough" to understand what they're voting for?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Feb 23 11.34am |
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Of course Sir Keir Polands economic trajectory will overtake ours. They ae in the EU, we aren't. As for becoming the fastest growing country in the G7 that's strictly for the birds. Has to be more bold, and more credible. Better than the tories but they are all a mediocrity.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 27 Feb 23 12.40pm |
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The Mission.......oh dear, where's the Simple Ed carved stone
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 27 Feb 23 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
The electorate chose to vote for Johnson and the implementing of Brexit. Remainer MPs at that election were decimated. Good post
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 27 Feb 23 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No doubt, but that's nothing new and is to be welcomed, not feared. The EU will go on evolving and would be greatly strengthened by us rejoining. It would gain significant status. Organisations such as the EU are the future of the world. We are nuts to think we can be better off outside. the EU is already a dying animal. When Rome fell in 370 AD, the countries that were not in the club had an easier time ( Denmark, Ireland, Scotland etc). All their institutions survived intact. The countries in Rome got a currency crisis, a total breakdown in Law & order, violent religious strife and a Dark Age. Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Feb 2023 1.02pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 23 1.03pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
The electorate chose to vote for Johnson and the implementing of Brexit. Remainer MPs at that election were decimated. The Brexit weary electorate voted, in a first past the post system, for a Conservative Party led by a lying populist who relied on the marketing slogan skills of an "adviser" in preference to a divided opposition led by a despicable, totally unsuitable, unelectable alternative. Not a very wise way to deliver what the majority of their representatives truly believed was in their best interests was it? I want to see decision-making returned to our representatives. I want them to be at the centre of our politics. Not parties. I want them to be free of party whips and able to vote without the fear of deselection or the threat of a lack of advancement. I want them to rely solely on their conscience. I want to see the outside groups, especially the media, unable to influence how they vote. That means they vote as we do. In secret and for that secrecy to be respected and never questioned. That's the modernisation I want to see. PR runs alongside it because that ensures stability of purpose. How we get it is a wholly different question!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 23 1.06pm |
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Originally posted by mezzer
"It wasn't the fault of the electorate but the people they chose to represent us"....But you consistently say that the representatives that have been voted for should be allowed to get on with representing us. If they don't, they can voted out. So modernising the voting system should be, presumably, proportional representation. As in, proportionately representing what you believe in. Or should it just be for those who are "clever enough" to understand what they're voting for? PR alone is not enough. Secret votes for MPs is an essential step too.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 23 1.10pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the EU is already a dying animal. When Rome fell in 370 AD, the countries that were not in the club had an easier time ( Denmark, Ireland, Scotland etc). All their institutions survived intact. The countries in Rome got a currency crisis, a total breakdown in Law & order, violent religious strife and a Dark Age. Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Feb 2023 1.02pm) I normally ignore your posts as their lack of realism speaks for itself. However, the idea that what happened when Rome fell can be translated to modern times was so funny that I thought it necessary to thank you for the smile.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Feb 23 1.23pm |
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A world recession is inevitable. Debt levels long term are unstainable. Brexit is an opportunity insomuch as it offers the ability for partial insulation, but only if that's the pathway taken. The remainers and globalists within the Tory and Labour party won't grasp that chance though and will tie us as close as possible to the EU.....which kind of makes Brexit largely pointless.....especially when you factor in the betrayal on immigration that the Tories have delivered.....which everybody honest knows was the main focus on the votes against the EU. Low quality elites. The system is filtered from anyone who would actually improve the lives of the working and middle classes.....if they don't sing the neo liberal group think songs they don't get to the stage. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Feb 2023 1.25pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Feb 23 1.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I normally ignore your posts as their lack of realism speaks for itself. However, the idea that what happened when Rome fell can be translated to modern times was so funny that I thought it necessary to thank you for the smile. 'A funny thing happened on the way to the brexit forum'.
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