Was that an aborted attempt at poetry? Also ‘superior’ mammal may be technically true but in reality it’s questionable

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Well until a dolphin can engage me in a conversation about ethics I'll beg to differ.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jun 2019 10.13pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I think you are perhaps guilty of romanticising the level of dolphin intelligence. They are only adapted for their environment....highly intelligent in those terms...but limited in terms of any other adaptation of their environment.

Or perhaps I've forgotten about that giant undersea city that the dolphins don't have......maybe it's just a matter of time until dolphin Steve Jobs comes up with the next iphone.....made from fish scales.

When it comes to intelligence.....I think if you are calling the species that we hold in large tanks all around the world and gape at...as being more intelligent than us....Then perhaps being more intelligent isn't enough.

In reality intelligence is only worth something if something useful can come from it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jun 2019 12.06am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I think that price is the main driver as there is such a demand for cheap meat in this country that people demand it as a right.

Whenever a chef appears on TV to discuss the appalling treatment of chickens the sale of battery chickens falls for a week or two before everyone forgets about it.

In any event I'm guessing that the biggest customers of battery farmed chickens are the processed food companies

Is that how you live your life? In negative stasis?

The bigger the brand the more they have to lose by not being truthful or adhering to trading standards. It’s obviously not possible to know for certain unless you do some research, but if you live your life by the mantra ‘how do you know anyone is telling the truth about anything’ then how do you ever make it out of the house

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

I’m not entirely sure what class has to do with it. You can be working class and still want to eat decent meat. Similarly you can be working class and be affluent, to counter balance the implied reason for raising it in this context.

There is a reason expensive stuff is expensive, most of the time. My point is, much like Primark, Cocaine and a whole variety of things, there is often a massive ethical and in some cases health negative consequence to ridiculously cheap things. The old adage ‘too good to be true’ still holds water. Unless you’re on the poverty line there’s no reason to throw ethics and reason out the window.

Of course life expectancy being low in the US isn’t about Chicken. That point wasn’t made. The general danger is it’s mission creep - lower standards in one area (resulting in increased profit) and soon enough we’ll be back in the 70s. And Lets not be too romantic about the 70s, which was a terrible decade, the food offerings were basic, diets were atrocious and most people’s idea of exotic food was either fish and chips or sprayable cheese.

Cheap food can and is still of high quality. It just depends what you’re eating - fruit, veg, pulses, non processed items, don’t have to be expensive to be decent. But things like meat are a different story. It’s also the point that you simply don’t need to eat vast quantities of the s*** stuff. Eat less and better quality.

Also re. Top tier food - maybe at a commercial level but it’s always been available. It’s just more available now as people’s attitudes have changed and the market has cashed in.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (26 Jun 2019 10.16am)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.