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View VinceHilaire's Profile VinceHilaire Flag London 06 Jun 24 11.41am Send a Private Message to VinceHilaire Add VinceHilaire as a friend

Strange how things in life can change so quickly…After the defeat to Brighton, we were all fuming with the club, nobody really reported any interesting information about the players or club, and life was depressing…Move forward a few months, and there is now huge interest in our players, club and potential signings.

I would not be surprised to see all 4 of our players named in the England squad. Though putting them in the limelight only fuels speculation that other clubs will be on the prowl

 

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I would imagine that the only reason Trafford hasn't been released yet is just in case the keeper (Pickford / Henderson) picks up an injury in the final friendly

Originally posted by mileend

Curtis Jones and Jarell Quansah also reported on the bbc as being omitted from the squad

So Southgate only has four more to let go including a keeper

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 06 Jun 24 12.16pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Love Eze, but for me, him a Foden play in the same position, and Foden is presently a better all round player.

Both are difficult to fit in a team. They both need to be allowed to roam, and to some extent are 'luxury' players (at international level at least). Pep is able to surround Foden with players to allow him to play his game. We've got a team built around Eze. England have an abundance of (attacking) midfielders that they are trying to cram into one team. Even Rice has been playing further forward this season. The closest to a defensive midfielder with defensive pedigree is Stones! Rice next. Wharton may be able to fit in as a DM, but unsure of his defensive ability at this level. could be too much of a risk to play as a DM.

4 at the back, and Kane upfront leaves space for 5 midfielders. 2 Of which are 'defensive' to allow the 3 AM's + Kane to work.

DMs(2 spots):
Starters: Rice and Gallagher
Backups: Mainoo and Wharton

AMs(3 spots):
Starters: Bellingham, then 2 of
Saka, Foden, Eze, Palmer, Grealish.

I have no idea how that translates into a structure that works.


 


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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 06 Jun 24 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Originally posted by VinceHilaire

Strange how things in life can change so quickly…After the defeat to Brighton, we were all fuming with the club, nobody really reported any interesting information about the players or club, and life was depressing…Move forward a few months, and there is now huge interest in our players, club and potential signings.

I would not be surprised to see all 4 of our players named in the England squad. Though putting them in the limelight only fuels speculation that other clubs will be on the prowl


None of them are out of contract and it comes down to whether the club wants to sell them or not. Subject to any release clause clearly. Unless any of them throw their toys out and demand a transfer, I think that’s unlikely in the current good Palace environment and with their international careers on the up.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 06 Jun 24 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Love Eze, but for me, him a Foden play in the same position, and Foden is presently a better all round player.

Both are difficult to fit in a team. They both need to be allowed to roam, and to some extent are 'luxury' players (at international level at least). Pep is able to surround Foden with players to allow him to play his game. We've got a team built around Eze. England have an abundance of (attacking) midfielders that they are trying to cram into one team. Even Rice has been playing further forward this season. The closest to a defensive midfielder with defensive pedigree is Stones! Rice next. Wharton may be able to fit in as a DM, but unsure of his defensive ability at this level. could be too much of a risk to play as a DM.

4 at the back, and Kane upfront leaves space for 5 midfielders. 2 Of which are 'defensive' to allow the 3 AM's + Kane to work.

DMs(2 spots):
Starters: Rice and Gallagher
Backups: Mainoo and Wharton

AMs(3 spots):
Starters: Bellingham, then 2 of
Saka, Foden, Eze, Palmer, Grealish.

I have no idea how that translates into a structure that works.


 


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Originally posted by dreamwaverider


If it were me, I would start the game playing Bellingham in his club position up front in a Palace style attacking approach. I would keep Kane on the bench and release him every game after say an hour, just when a very harassed defence will be tiring. When Kane comes on I would obviously shuffle our other very adaptable players to fit.
Kane is top dollar, but probably a bit tired from a long season. He is still one of the worlds best and in this role he would decimate any defence.
Bellingham, Foden, Saka, Palmer, Eze, Grealish, Arnold, Rice, Gallagher, Wharton, Mainoo.......a great group of very talented younger players. And these are all forward thinking players.
Southgate has got a great squad if he takes risk and attacks. Just like us.


Edited by dreamwaverider (06 Jun 2024 11.28am)

Edited by dreamwaverider (06 Jun 2024 11.30am)

You may be right, but if Kane is fit there's no way he doesn't start. England have an enviable selection of forward-thinking players. It's the defence that's the issue, along with a goalkeeper who is prone to losing focus. We should storm out of our group, but against the top teams we might struggle again.

 

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View mileend's Profile mileend Flag East London 06 Jun 24 1.00pm Send a Private Message to mileend Add mileend as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Man, that's a depressing bunch Of defenders!

I guess if Trent Alexander-Arnold is going (as a midfielder nominally) then he is the cover for right back and two can be left behind out of

Jarrad Branthwaite (Everton), Lewis Dunk (Brighton), Joe Gomez (Liverpool), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa)

Konsa and Dunk to miss out?

Edited by mileend (06 Jun 2024 1.02pm)

 

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Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Love Eze, but for me, him a Foden play in the same position, and Foden is presently a better all round player.

Both are difficult to fit in a team. They both need to be allowed to roam, and to some extent are 'luxury' players (at international level at least). Pep is able to surround Foden with players to allow him to play his game. We've got a team built around Eze. England have an abundance of (attacking) midfielders that they are trying to cram into one team. Even Rice has been playing further forward this season. The closest to a defensive midfielder with defensive pedigree is Stones! Rice next. Wharton may be able to fit in as a DM, but unsure of his defensive ability at this level. could be too much of a risk to play as a DM.

4 at the back, and Kane upfront leaves space for 5 midfielders. 2 Of which are 'defensive' to allow the 3 AM's + Kane to work.

DMs(2 spots):
Starters: Rice and Gallagher
Backups: Mainoo and Wharton

AMs(3 spots):
Starters: Bellingham, then 2 of
Saka, Foden, Eze, Palmer, Grealish.

I have no idea how that translates into a structure that works.


I'd obviously want to swap Wharton and Gallagher as the starter but you are probably right in predicting Gareth's thoughts on this matter. Hopefully the Iceland game will reverse the thinking.

The one person I had totally forgotten was in the training squad is Anthony Gordon. He is in the Bowen category as a quick attacking wide player. But I haven't heard any reports of him, or Bowen, being a serious option.


Edited by mileend (06 Jun 2024 1.12pm)

 

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Originally posted by mileend

I guess if Trent Alexander-Arnold is going (as a midfielder nominally) then he is the cover for right back and two can be left behind out of

Jarrad Branthwaite (Everton), Lewis Dunk (Brighton), Joe Gomez (Liverpool), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa)

Konsa and Dunk to miss out?

Edited by mileend (06 Jun 2024 1.02pm)

SSN are reporting that Dunk picked up an injury & is doubtful for tomorrow nights game & according to GS, anyone not involved for that game is at serious risk of not being picked, whether that also applies to Maguire & Shaw is anyone's guess.

As an aside they also said that Wharton was one of the players likely to miss out.

 


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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 06 Jun 24 3.00pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by mileend

I'd obviously want to swap Wharton and Gallagher as the starter but you are probably right in predicting Gareth's thoughts on this matter. Hopefully the Iceland game will reverse the thinking.

The one person I had totally forgotten was in the training squad is Anthony Gordon. He is in the Bowen category as a quick attacking wide player. But I haven't heard any reports of him, or Bowen, being a serious option.


Edited by mileend (06 Jun 2024 1.12pm)

ah yes, I forgot against Gordon too! Hes probably the most natural winger we have that could play on the left.

He could actually add balance to the side with him on the Left and Saka on the right. You'd have to sacrifice either Bellingham or Foden to accomodate him. but that may be ok, balance of the team should take precedence over shoehorning talent into it.


Edited by CrazyBadger (06 Jun 2024 3.01pm)

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 06 Jun 24 3.56pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

That's grealish and maguire out, so who we getting on our England shirts, eze, Guehi or Wharton ?

Edited by rikz (06 Jun 2024 3.57pm)

Edited by rikz (06 Jun 2024 3.57pm)

 

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Originally posted by CrazyBadger

ah yes, I forgot against Gordon too! Hes probably the most natural winger we have that could play on the left.

He could actually add balance to the side with him on the Left and Saka on the right. You'd have to sacrifice either Bellingham or Foden to accomodate him. but that may be ok, balance of the team should take precedence over shoehorning talent into it.


Edited by CrazyBadger (06 Jun 2024 3.01pm)


Exactly, which is why, IMO, Wharton has to go as Rice's natural DM deputy or even his partner. Southgate's unusual praise for a new player in the plaudits he has afforded to Wharton strongly suggests that Adam will be on the plane.

Tomorrow's line-up will probably include mainly 1st team players and I wouldn't be surprised to see the following:

Ramsdale or Henderson

Walker,
Konsa,
Guehi,
Trippier/Gomes
(with Stones still on an individual programme and Maguire looking like he's not recovered from injury)

Rice
Mainoo

Gordon
Foden
Saka

Kane

If as is being rumoured, Maguire isn't fit and Grealish will be left out that leaves just one more to be cut which could be Dunk if his injury isn't just a little knock or one of Toney, Watkins, Bowen and Eze. If Gordon plays and produces tomorrow he'll get the nod to be in the 26.

Edited by doombear (06 Jun 2024 4.00pm)

 

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