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PatrickA London 19 Dec 23 4.26pm | |
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What's the attraction of Cooper?
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Putitout Oxford 19 Dec 23 4.27pm | |
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Originally posted by martin2412
It's not only 27,000 Palace fans though. You can add about 50,000 Liverpool fans and hundreds of thousands of England fans. Maybe they could all have managed, Palace better than he has? No go further Liverpool, anyone does that job, and it has to be England as well, considering how they must think they their knowledge of the game is superior enough to seriously question his.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 19 Dec 23 4.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
It’s funny you should say that because I’ve noticed your opinions on Roy have changed substantially in the last 3 months or so and you are beginning to see the light. Not at all. I recognise the frustrations that people have with him, some of which I have myself, nobody’s perfect. My position is clear ; when Hodgson was re-appointed this season did people seriously think he was going to change his methodology ? If there was to be a continuation of the shift towards more front footed football that we saw at the end of last season, well he’s simply not had the players available to do that. Still, gives people like you something to moan about. Given his emphasis on team shape, he’s highly unlikely to place trust in youth over experience. Some on here were advocating the likes of Rob Street, Niya Kirby etc to be put in the first team when they patently weren’t good enough. Of the next batch of young players coming through, Ozoh is being developed, Jes will get game time when fit again and Franca continues to progress - let’s hope more can step up. As somebody that watches as many games as possible at U18 and 21 level, my view is that there isn’t anyone else that is ready to bridge that playing gap at the moment. In conclusion, I value Hodgson and his coaching staff’s opinion over yours - and indeed over mine. If I have changed my view of one person in recent months, it’s of Steve Parish. Not of Hodgson.
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Putitout Oxford 19 Dec 23 4.45pm | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Not at all. I recognise the frustrations that people have with him, some of which I have myself, nobody’s perfect. My position is clear ; when Hodgson was re-appointed this season did people seriously think he was going to change his methodology ? If there was to be a continuation of the shift towards more front footed football that we saw at the end of last season, well he’s simply not had the players available to do that. Still, gives people like you something to moan about. Given his emphasis on team shape, he’s highly unlikely to place trust in youth over experience. Some on here were advocating the likes of Rob Street, Niya Kirby etc to be put in the first team when they patently weren’t good enough. Of the next batch of young players coming through, Ozoh is being developed, Jes will get game time when fit again and Franca continues to progress - let’s hope more can step up. As somebody that watches as many games as possible at U18 and 21 level, my view is that there isn’t anyone else that is ready to bridge that playing gap at the moment. In conclusion, I value Hodgson and his coaching staff’s opinion over yours - and indeed over mine. If I have changed my view of one person in recent months, it’s of Steve Parish. Not of Hodgson. I laughed at your previous comment.
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silvertop Portishead 19 Dec 23 4.46pm | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Not at all. I recognise the frustrations that people have with him, some of which I have myself, nobody’s perfect. My position is clear ; when Hodgson was re-appointed this season did people seriously think he was going to change his methodology ? If there was to be a continuation of the shift towards more front footed football that we saw at the end of last season, well he’s simply not had the players available to do that. Still, gives people like you something to moan about. Given his emphasis on team shape, he’s highly unlikely to place trust in youth over experience. Some on here were advocating the likes of Rob Street, Niya Kirby etc to be put in the first team when they patently weren’t good enough. Of the next batch of young players coming through, Ozoh is being developed, Jes will get game time when fit again and Franca continues to progress - let’s hope more can step up. As somebody that watches as many games as possible at U18 and 21 level, my view is that there isn’t anyone else that is ready to bridge that playing gap at the moment. In conclusion, I value Hodgson and his coaching staff’s opinion over yours - and indeed over mine. If I have changed my view of one person in recent months, it’s of Steve Parish. Not of Hodgson. Pray expand.
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 19 Dec 23 5.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Despite making Beardsley and Dowie look like sex gods, I agree with you.
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PatrickA London 19 Dec 23 5.34pm | |
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Perhaps too much emphasis is on the manager rather than the players available. Think Vieira in his first season ; a fit and firing balanced midfield of Gallagher, McArthur and Kouyate all in form and pressing from the front which enabled us to play further up the field . Think Roy at the end of last season; Olise and Eze started playing well and confidence surged leading to improved performances from others in the team. This is where I have some sympathy of those critical of Roy, and to an extent of Viera before him. To merely shrug your shoulders and say we haven’t got the players to threaten is an absence of taking responsibility.
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DANGERCLOSE London 20 Dec 23 9.28am | |
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If we don't get a result against Brighton then i think we should replace imo
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 20 Dec 23 10.49am | |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
If we don't get a result against Brighton then i think we should replace imo We'll probably have enough players available to get something from the Brighton game but shouldn’t be disappointed with one point.
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cROYdonrogers Leamington Spa 20 Dec 23 11.48am | |
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I'm not convinced about Cooper. He might be good for the younger players. Any managerial appointment by any club has jeopardy. Why risk it now. Roy's Roy and everybody knows what they are getting.
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Painter Croydon 20 Dec 23 12.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
Who ever does become the next Palace manager the board, must be able to seriously back him by boosting our senior squad with at least three ready to use players. I remember this same rhetoric when Peter Taylor was appointed, after managing this under somethings for England. The turned out to be absolutely useless, resorted to signing his son in law, who was useless as well.
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 20 Dec 23 6.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Painter
I remember this same rhetoric when Peter Taylor was appointed, after managing this under somethings for England. The turned out to be absolutely useless, resorted to signing his son in law, who was useless as well. ... he certainly got lost at the Forest! I'm open minded about Cooper but we don't need him at the present time.
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