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 Stirlingsays  06 Oct 23 12.29pm |
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 06 Oct 23 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
[Tweet Link]“ Since the Just Stop Oil campaign began on 1 April 2022, more than 2,000 people have been arrested and 138 have spent time in prison.”
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| Stirlingsays 06 Oct 23 12.37pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
“ Since the Just Stop Oil campaign began on 1 April 2022, more than 2,000 people have been arrested and 138 have spent time in prison.” 138 people is nothing compared to the amount of damage and delays they have caused.....they have even had people let off for criminal damage before. They are heavily funded and heavily promoted in the mainstream and break the law practically everyday. Fox is persecuted and Packham isn't......If these people are going to be persecuted at all then I regard that double standard as indefensible. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Oct 2023 12.38pm)
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| Stirlingsays 06 Oct 23 1.43pm |
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While posh Tarquin (who's never going to suffer much from restrictions) from 'Just Stop Oil' tells you to wear a hairshirt. Meanwhile: Back in the real world. [Tweet Link]
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 06 Oct 23 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
138 people is nothing compared to the amount of damage and delays they have caused.....they have even had people let off for criminal damage before. They are heavily funded and heavily promoted in the mainstream and break the law practically everyday. Fox is persecuted and Packham isn't......If these people are going to be persecuted at all then I regard that double standard as indefensible. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Oct 2023 12.38pm) It's 138 more than the people you are claiming are the oppressed here. 2000 arrests versus one... I mean this sincerely - you're a lot better than posting s***e from twitter that a teenager could refute.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Oct 23 1.54pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
It's 138 more than the people you are claiming are the oppressed here. 2000 arrests versus one... I mean this sincerely - you're a lot better than posting s***e from twitter that a teenager could refute. They are actually causing physical consequences for people and the economy. Not talking words like Fox. If they were being arrested for words than there would be far far more arrests....Packham is the obvious recent case in point. It would be nice if you could actually refute something other than just posting passive aggressive denialism.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 06 Oct 23 2.10pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
While posh Tarquin (who's never going to suffer much from restrictions) from 'Just Stop Oil' tells you to wear a hairshirt. Meanwhile: Back in the real world. [Tweet Link]
China and the Arab nations are going through their prosperous building phase, like we did during the industrial revolution into the Victorian era and America did through to the 1930s. Britain right now is no longer able to throw limitless money at big projects. The Chinese just chuck people out of their houses when a train track is going through. The economy is also a little different. We had the Irish to build our stuff for a few groats back in the day. They have a billion peasants.(slight hyperbole alert).
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 06 Oct 23 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
They are actually causing physical consequences for people and the economy. Not talking words like Fox. If they were being arrested for words than there would be far far more arrests....Packham is the obvious recent case in point. It would be nice if you could actually refute something other than just posting passive aggressive denialism. As are the blade runners... who have no arrests. There's nothing remotely aggressive about what I said - those sort of twitter posts exist for all political outlooks (including my own), but are just a really poor way of making a point and in nearly all cases they're just looking for engagement by being deliberately controversial or provocative. The thing you posted said "Laurence Fox was detained... for voicing support of the blade runners. In contrast the met police give Just Stop Oil cups of tea and let them get on with actual criminal behaviour" The reality is that the same met police have arrested over 2000 member of the same Just Stop Oil, making the above an absolute fantasy. That's not a matter of opinion, that's fact. You can keep manoeuvring and re-wording and whatever else to try and change that reality, but it's very obvious to anyone being genuine that's a stupid quote, and I mean it sincerely when I say you are better than leaning on stupid quotes to try and make your point for you.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Oct 23 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
As are the blade runners... who have no arrests. There's nothing remotely aggressive about what I said - those sort of twitter posts exist for all political outlooks (including my own), but are just a really poor way of making a point and in nearly all cases they're just looking for engagement by being deliberately controversial or provocative. The thing you posted said "Laurence Fox was detained... for voicing support of the blade runners. In contrast the met police give Just Stop Oil cups of tea and let them get on with actual criminal behaviour" The reality is that the same met police have arrested over 2000 member of the same Just Stop Oil, making the above an absolute fantasy. That's not a matter of opinion, that's fact. You can keep manoeuvring and re-wording and whatever else to try and change that reality, but it's very obvious to anyone being genuine that's a stupid quote, and I mean it sincerely when I say you are better than leaning on stupid quotes to try and make your point for you. I've kind of answered the points you raise here and you reject them....well ok. I don't support criminal damage regardless of what political cause it's in. As for there being no arrest of Blade runners, well that's hardly for want of trying. If Fox had gone out and stopped traffic or glued himself to a painting there would be no whining from me. However, I don't defend arrests based upon words....and like I say there's an operating double standard....both in funding, mainstream exposure and Police treatment. The post highlights the kid gloves that the Met and other forces treat these people while they break the law....anyone can compare it to how the same force treated covid protestors for example....the video footage is there for all to see. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Oct 2023 2.27pm)
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| Stirlingsays 06 Oct 23 2.30pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
China and the Arab nations are going through their prosperous building phase, like we did during the industrial revolution into the Victorian era and America did through to the 1930s. Britain right now is no longer able to throw limitless money at big projects. The Chinese just chuck people out of their houses when a train track is going through. The economy is also a little different. We had the Irish to build our stuff for a few groats back in the day. They have a billion peasants.(slight hyperbole alert). Well, after introducing lockdowns, paying for half the workforce to stay at home for a year and then enthusiastically spending on foreign wars that increase inflation you'd think we were swimming in money. Borrowing on the next generation's future is all the rage.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Oct 23 6.18pm |
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I wonder if Fox will have gained popularity for this if he stands for election?
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| Stirlingsays 06 Oct 23 7.30pm |
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Breaking News....one of the money people behind 'Just Stop Oil' stops funding. Funny how this corporate money man never had the fuzz sent to his door or any mainstream hassle despite funding an organisation engaged in criminal acts all over the country. If you want to know where their main big money comes from it's the Aileen Getty Foundation......So the Getty family. They also part fund Extinction Rebellion. These are highly funded organizations with mainstream support....anyone who thinks it's just organic isn't taking notice. [Tweet Link]
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